Two men order their pit bull to attack 12 yr. old girl in wheelchair

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Ns1

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The dog being a pitbull has nothing to do with it. It could have been a Golden Retriever and it would have been the same outcome because the owners trained their dog to kill.

yeah just like this family who raised their pitbull to be a murderer:

A pregnant woman who was mauled to death by one of her pet pit bull terriers belonged to group campaigning to convince people that the animals aren't dangerous, it has emerged.
Darla Napora, 32, was bitten dozens of times and found by her husband Greg covered in blood outstretched on their living room floor in Pacifica, California.
...It has since emerged Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous.

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massmedia

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The dog being a pitbull has nothing to do with it. It could have been a Golden Retriever and it would have been the same outcome because the owners trained their dog to kill.
yes absolutely! all dog breeds are equally dangerous if their masters train them to kill.

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zerocool84

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yeah just like this family who raised their pitbull to be a murderer:
So what you're saying is that the story in the OP, if it would have been say a Lab, even though it was trained to kill on command, because it wasn't a pitbull it wouldn't have done it?
 

Ns1

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So what you're saying is that the story in the OP, if it would have been say a Lab, even though it was trained to kill on command, because it wasn't a pitbull it wouldn't have done it?

No, I'm saying even the nicest pitbulls are 1 unfortunate incident away from a wrongful death lawsuit.
 

Ns1

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LOL and of course, as this thread rages on a friend's dog was attacked by a neighbor's foster pitbull last night.

animals of peace!!!*



*until they're not
 

Blitzvogel

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Pitbulls were bred to fight, bar none. I agree to a certain point that any dog's instability is caused by the owner, but certain breeds are more willing to "go off" when something triggers their natural instinct to fight or kill be it a human command or an unknown. You have the same problem with Chows which were also bred for fighting and guard duties in China.

I believe in the responsibility of dog owners, but I can't believe people are still fooling themselves to think that the owner can completely overcome any dog's natural instincts, especially in aggressive breeds. It's one reason I always carry a knife, and I have no problem cutting a dog's throat out, especially a pitbull.

And to be completely honest, I enjoy seeing pitbulls getting shot by policemen or whoever. They're gangster dogs for people trying to look tough. Good riddance.
 

Jodell88

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I disagree with this. it's not the size that matters it's the breed
Oh, I know it's the breed that matters and not the size.

I'm going to spend my weekend with a very lovable pit bull/Rottweiler mix that is going to slober me to death. :awe:

Meanwhile, I won't go to my neighbour's or girlfriend's house in fear of being mauled by German Shephards or Rottweilers. :|
 

TheSlamma

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Irrational fear much? Pitbulls are generally very nice animals when they are raised in a loving home, and given the discipline and command they need.
Problem is they make the news for doing this on almost a daily basis. You don't hear about golden retrievers or Newfoundlands doing this hardly if at all. And then your next line is "The media just brings PB's to light" or whatever other junk people say to keep this breed that consistently seems to attack people.
 

MongGrel

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Pitbulls were bred to fight, bar none. I agree to a certain point that any dog's instability is caused by the owner, but certain breeds are more willing to "go off" when something triggers their natural instinct to fight or kill be it a human command or an unknown. You have the same problem with Chows which were also bred for fighting and guard duties in China.

I believe in the responsibility of dog owners, but I can't believe people are still fooling themselves to think that the owner can completely overcome any dog's natural instincts, especially in aggressive breeds. It's one reason I always carry a knife, and I have no problem cutting a dog's throat out, especially a pitbull.

And to be completely honest, I enjoy seeing pitbulls getting shot by policemen or whoever. They're gangster dogs for people trying to look tough. Good riddance.

Yeah Chows are the same way.

Growing up had a neighbor who had about a dozen.

After breaking up a fight and getting attacked himself by a couple he got rid of about 10 of em.
 

alkemyst

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Problem is they make the news for doing this on almost a daily basis. You don't hear about golden retrievers or Newfoundlands doing this hardly if at all. And then your next line is "The media just brings PB's to light" or whatever other junk people say to keep this breed that consistently seems to attack people.

Golden Retrievers have been on the maiming list...they are just not news worthy.

The problem is people to raise a GR to be a fighting dog or attack dog. My dad trained attack dogs for the military, you never want an attack dog as a family pet. Dogs have enough instincts to try and protect their masters.

That said, every yahoo beats and tries to make their "Pit" the baddest ass dog on the planet.

Some little kid wanders in their yard or the dog escapes and then you have incidents.

"Pit Bull Terriers" as a whole were some of the most popular dogs around the turn of the century and you didn't have these maulings because people kept their 'baiting/fighting' dogs in kennels that were secure and their family pit bulls weren't trained to kill or fight.
 

mikeford

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When the military buys dogs one of the tests is avalanche rage, basically that the dog needs to attack on command, but also disengage on command. Apparently its not something that can be trained, and some dogs just can't be command controlled once in fight mode.
 

MrCassdin

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Aaaaaaaand no. Pit bulls are much less aggressive than most small, yappy dogs.

The difference is that pit bull has the ability to kill an adult human where a dachshund or chihuahua does not.

It's the difference between Iran and Russia. Iran may go on and on about destroying this or that, but Russia can actually do it. It doesn't matter that Iran is more aggressive.