Two IDF soldiers charged with using 9-year-old 'human shield' in Gaza war

[Noobtastic]

Reminder that hamas has abided by every single negotiated ceasefire and israel always broke them

You must be joking.

Why are people so quick to apologize for suicide bombing maniacs?

Please, move to Gaza if Hamas is so great.

 

[Narmer]

What is truly funny is your inability to respond to my post in an explicit manner.

Is the West immune from criticism? If Israel is considered to be an alien state that is morally inferior to the Western tribes - with their stellar human rights record and superior military policy (sarcasm) - am I not allowed to merely state the obvious?

Israel is a part of Western civilization and this really isn't up for debate. The real question is, has Western civilization been so corrupted by Arab oil that it will betray one of its most loyal members?

Ask yourself Narmer. Whose side are you on?



So you admit it. I mention the HRC because you mentioned the UN. Any self-respecting human being knows the UN is an utter moral failure and the Israel leadership should wear a badge of honor for being its most disdained enemy.

How any so-called enlightened European state can be attached to the hip with the non-alignment movement is beyond me. Seeing dictators and murders lecture Israel as they ruthlessly slaughter millions is something one could only describe in horror stories.

But alas, this is reality.

stranger than fiction, no?






Surely you are misinformed. Tolerant European states are offering to pay Muslim and Arab immigrants to move back to their original homeland. They have been experiencing a major cultural shift. A shift back in time, where women were hated and homosexuals were stoned.

The thousands of anti-Muslim protests in Europe, the sharia courts erecting in Britain, the antisemitism and vicious treatment of European Jews, the take-over of British universities, etc.

Hardly respectful.





Israel does not claim to be a democracy. Israel is a democratic republic and this again isn't disputed.

Israel's government is elected by the people, DUH.


Israel treats Arabs as a fifth column? Please, enlightenment.

I know for a fact Arabs can live anywhere they want in Israel. They live in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Ashdod. side by side with Jews.

Arabs serve in the government, are elected to the Knesset - and some even join the military.

Israel's relationship with the Arab residents is political no doubt, not racial. When 20% of the population refuses to serve in the military and actively lobby against the Jewish state, while benefiting off Zionist principals, it can be frustrating for many Jews.

But, Arabs have more rights in a Jewish state than any Arab one, which is why Israeli Arabs aren't emigrating. There are 23 Arab tribes, why don't Israeli Arabs move there if live is so tough?

As far as the Palestinians are concerned, disgusting. Israel's policies are exemplary. It is the Palestinians that exploit every opportunity to abuse Jewish rights. And when they aren't fighting Israel they are fighting each other.

I guess billions in Saudi-funded propaganda, converting the Pals - the godfathers of modern terrorism - into the victims of chief, has paid off in a way.

But the useful idiots are always vulnerable to propaganda regardless.





You have no credibility. You attack and abuse the most progressive state in the middle east, and victimize the Arab despotic tribes.

You say Israel is more like the Arab states than the West, and not only do I prove you wrong, but it is the Western states that are more like the Arab than Israel.

Care to review my statistics?

Which you like to compare US, British, French, Russian, and Saudi military history to Israel's?

Who is the moral superior?

You should know, fuckhole.

More hypocrisy coming from you. Again, you claim Israel is a Western nation but you cannot take criticism and bluntly ask me 'Who side are you on?'. No doubt Israel is a 'democracy'. Just like Turkey is a 'democracy'. You see, they both have elected leaders. However, one swears it's a secular state and has the army ready to back that up with a coup while the other swears it's a Jewish state and has countless attrition policies to back that up. I think I'm done here. No need arguing with someone so confused and hypocritical.

 

[Sclamoz]

Reminder that hamas has abided by every single negotiated ceasefire and israel always broke them

Prove it. Or go lay down in front of a bulldozer. Either way.

 

[woolfe9999]

I said 'claims'. Usually, cases like the one in the OP come about when the Israeli Military is pressed after soldiers have been allegedly exposed for wrongdoing. Even then, charges are and sentences are mitigated. Israel may be better than the arabs but it still has a long way to go to equate with the West in terms of everyone being under the rule of law.

You're kidding me right? I assume, for example, that the United States counts in your definition of "the west." You shouldn't be surprised to discover that our own enforcement of the rule of law when it comes to the military is very similar to what you've described about Israel, or worse. Take a look at Abu Graib and My Lai as two prominent examples. In each of those cases, we prosecuted only certain high profile wrongdoers as scapegoats and let the rest of them off scott free. And even the scapegoats don't always receive a just penalty. Lt. Calley only served three years for My Lai, and that was a mass murder of civilians. Oh, and in both of these cases, there were only prosecutions because of public exposure of the incidents in question.

- wolf

 

[theamericans075]

You must be joking.

Why are people so quick to apologize for suicide bombing maniacs?

Please, move to Gaza if Hamas is so great.

Can't, Israel has blockaded everything.

 

[theamericans075]

You must be joking.

Why are people so quick to apologize for suicide bombing maniacs?

Please, move to Gaza if Hamas is so great.

If I lived in a place were I was not allowed to have potable drinking water, had my house bulldozed or straight-up stolen, and had to spend every day being spat on and pelted with rocks by settlers, I'd probably take a long hard look at suicide bombing myself.

 

[Narmer]

You're kidding me right? I assume, for example, that the United States counts in your definition of "the west." You shouldn't be surprised to discover that our own enforcement of the rule of law when it comes to the military is very similar to what you've described about Israel, or worse. Take a look at Abu Graib and My Lai as two prominent examples. In each of those cases, we prosecuted only certain high profile wrongdoers as scapegoats and let the rest of them off scott free. And even the scapegoats don't always receive a just penalty. Lt. Calley only served three years for My Lai, and that was a mass murder of civilians. Oh, and in both of these cases, there were only prosecutions because of public exposure of the incidents in question.

- wolf

You make a good point. But I still wouldn't consider Israel as part of the West. She is very much a middle eastern country, not unlike Turkey.

 

[theflyingpig]

If I lived in a place were I was not allowed to have potable drinking water, had my house bulldozed or straight-up stolen, and had to spend every day being spat on and pelted with rocks by settlers, I'd probably take a long hard look at suicide bombing myself.

Pathetic. Instead of trying to make a better life for yourself, you choose to take the lives of innocent people. People like you ruin this world. People like you are the reason for the centuries of hatred in the middle east. People like you are the reason why humanity will never have peace. Everyone knows this.

 

[Noobtastic]

Can't, Israel has blockaded everything.

Uh?

So all those foreign representives snuck into Gaza?

Just so you know Gaza borders two nations - Israel and Egypt.

Israel is dubiously shipping in 700 aid trucks a month, even as Hamas fuckheads shoot aid workers and seize aid to sell it on the black market.

Gaza is what the future holds for a Palestinian state.

If I lived in a place were I was not allowed to have potable drinking water, had my house bulldozed or straight-up stolen, and had to spend every day being spat on and pelted with rocks by settlers, I'd probably take a long hard look at suicide bombing myself.

What utter garbage. Palestinians have a life expectancy of 75 and receive more aid than Congo, Somalia, and Sudan combined. Their access to water has tripled between 1967-2009, how else could they support such a surging population?

The Jews in the WB are overwhelmingly outnumbered by the Palestinians. Less than ~50 arabs have been killed by Jewish civilians, virtually in defensive attacks from homicidal Palestinians.

And the only homes bulldozed were those of suicide bombers. Just so you know, USA leveled entire neighorhoods simply to move thank tanks. They have made almost 1,000,000 Iraqis homeless (whereas 3,000 Palestinians are homeless). Pakistan too levels whole neighborhoods if they find a taliban living there.

Israel - in comparison to its critics - is morally superior in everyway. I'm guessing the hundreds of American soldiers murdered by suicide bombers was simply a MORAL REACTION to your RUTHLESS occupation of the country.

While Israel's presence in the WB and Gaza brought wealth to the Palestinians, and doubled their life expectancy, US occupation has turned Iraq into a death zone.

Afghanistan as well.

Plight does not force people to blow themselves up. Palestinians brainwashing children and locking them up in schools forces them. Hundreds of Palestinian families have been victim to Hamas and Fatah recruiting their children for war without their knowledge, but of course they have no voice because assfucking western trolls such as yourself will only buy news that justifies suicide bombings against israeli civilians.

I guess 9/11 was simply a moral reaction to USA gross foreign policy and murdering thousands of muslims, no?

islamic terrorists cannot be held responsible for their actions, only peace-loving Jews who defend their state.

More hypocrisy coming from you. Again, you claim Israel is a Western nation but you cannot take criticism and bluntly ask me 'Who side are you on?'. No doubt Israel is a 'democracy'. Just like Turkey is a 'democracy'. You see, they both have elected leaders. However, one swears it's a secular state and has the army ready to back that up with a coup while the other swears it's a Jewish state and has countless attrition policies to back that up. I think I'm done here. No need arguing with someone so confused and hypocritical.

Israel can take criticism, just not criticism that is inconsistent with criticism of other nations, or more specifically - it's critics.

According to the E.U and State Department definition of antisemitism, holding Israel to a moral code not applied to its critics constitutes antisemitism.

And making up criticism not grounded in facts is simply lying and defamation.

I dare you to respond to my post and recognize the hypocrisy and your utter lack of intelligence.