Two hobbit films planned-for LOTR prequel!

[Majesty]

The Hobbit? Yes please. Peter Jackson? No please. He already butchered LoTR.

There is enough material in The Hobbit to consider 2 movies. Even if those movies only last 90-120 minutes each, it should be quite enough. WB already made a 75 minutes comic of The Hobbit in 1977 (which was really good and very like the book. There was no changes like a psychotic Galadriel or a crazy Balrog).

Anyway, New Line said once they want to bring back the characters from LoTR... Now, it's been a while since I read the Hobbit, but as far as I can remember, the only characters that can be back are Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas (It's far fetched. He's the son of the Elvenking in Mirkwood), Gloin (he's at the Elrond's Council in LoTR) and Elrond.

Peter Jackson, for the love of Tolkien, stay away from The Hobbit and let someone REALLY make good movies out of that great story!

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: Majesty
The Hobbit? Yes please. Peter Jackson? No please. He already butchered LoTR.

There is enough material in The Hobbit to consider 2 movies. Even if those movies only last 90-120 minutes each, it should be quite enough. WB already made a 75 minutes comic of The Hobbit in 1977 (which was really good and very like the book. There was no changes like a psychotic Galadriel or a crazy Balrog).

Anyway, New Line said once they want to bring back the characters from LoTR... Now, it's been a while since I read the Hobbit, but as far as I can remember, the only characters that can be back are Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas (It's far fetched. He's the son of the Elvenking in Mirkwood), Gloin (he's at the Elrond's Council in LoTR) and Elrond.

Peter Jackson, for the love of Tolkien, stay away from The Hobbit and let someone REALLY make good movies out of that great story!

Go jump in volcano.

 

[Phlargo]

it would be neat to see these books made into movies

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Majesty
The Hobbit? Yes please. Peter Jackson? No please. He already butchered LoTR.

There is enough material in The Hobbit to consider 2 movies. Even if those movies only last 90-120 minutes each, it should be quite enough. WB already made a 75 minutes comic of The Hobbit in 1977 (which was really good and very like the book. There was no changes like a psychotic Galadriel or a crazy Balrog).

Anyway, New Line said once they want to bring back the characters from LoTR... Now, it's been a while since I read the Hobbit, but as far as I can remember, the only characters that can be back are Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas (It's far fetched. He's the son of the Elvenking in Mirkwood), Gloin (he's at the Elrond's Council in LoTR) and Elrond.

Peter Jackson, for the love of Tolkien, stay away from The Hobbit and let someone REALLY make good movies out of that great story!

There's no bigger fan of LOTR than me (first read it in fifth grade, and many times since), and I have to say you're way off base here. Jackson did as good a job as anyone could, taking into account that many of the subtleties from the book (such as Galadriel's struggle with rejecting the ring) HAVE to be shown visually in a visual medium such as a film. Not sure what the problem with the Balrog scene is.

If you make a list of talented directors who are also fans of Lord of the Rings, it's going to be a pretty short list. I'd like to hear who else you were thinking of.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: santz
Best news i have heard all week!

Link
http://movies.ign.com/articles/741/741713p1.html

"Two Hobbit Films Planned
MGM touts twice the LOTR prequel action.
by IGN Staff


October 25, 2006 - MGM and New Line Cinema are moving ever closer to making J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit a big-screen reality. And now it seems that the studios may be planning not one, but two films based on the 1937 fantasy novel.

MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands revealed the plans this past weekend during a trade show in Orlando, Florida, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

The Hobbit follows Bilbo Baggins on an adventure with a band of dwarves and the wizard Gandalf as they attempt to reclaim the dwarves' stolen treasure and restore their kingdom

This is the second time in the past month that Sands has publicly commented on the project. A few weeks ago, he issued a statement in response to a fan petition urging MGM and New Line to pursue Lord of the Rings helmer Peter Jackson as the director of The Hobbit.

"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the first and only choice for directing The Hobbit. MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production," Sands said.

Keep your browser set to IGN for more Hobbit updates."

Fixed the press release for them if they want it to be successful.

Seriously - if they don't get the original cast, including bilbo and all, it'll be .

Two movies...I imagine the few action scenes from the book are going to be blown way up.

isn't bilbo supposed to be young in that book? i don't think Ian holm would work very well. They need to keep Gandalf, that's about it.

 

[santz]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: mrzed
Three cast members, you also need Elrond.

Ah yah Elrond. I forgot about the mapquest stop.

What the hell, what about gollum?

even though he was a CGI model, it was made from a guy who acted and performed. all tht was just interpreted and shown in CGI. I feel he is an important character.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: santz
Best news i have heard all week!

Link
http://movies.ign.com/articles/741/741713p1.html

"Two Hobbit Films Planned
MGM touts twice the LOTR prequel action.
by IGN Staff


October 25, 2006 - MGM and New Line Cinema are moving ever closer to making J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit a big-screen reality. And now it seems that the studios may be planning not one, but two films based on the 1937 fantasy novel.

MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands revealed the plans this past weekend during a trade show in Orlando, Florida, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

The Hobbit follows Bilbo Baggins on an adventure with a band of dwarves and the wizard Gandalf as they attempt to reclaim the dwarves' stolen treasure and restore their kingdom

This is the second time in the past month that Sands has publicly commented on the project. A few weeks ago, he issued a statement in response to a fan petition urging MGM and New Line to pursue Lord of the Rings helmer Peter Jackson as the director of The Hobbit.

"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the first and only choice for directing The Hobbit. MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production," Sands said.

Keep your browser set to IGN for more Hobbit updates."

Fixed the press release for them if they want it to be successful.

Seriously - if they don't get the original cast, including bilbo and all, it'll be .

Two movies...I imagine the few action scenes from the book are going to be blown way up.

isn't bilbo supposed to be young in that book? i don't think Ian holm would work very well. They need to keep Gandalf, that's about it.

They need Gandalf and Elrond. That's all.

*Oh, and Gollum, they need Andy Serkis as well...*

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: yllus
Blah. I own and enjoyed all three of the LOTR movies (and read the trilogy, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion) but I always find myself fast forwarding through the hobbit scenes. They're SO BORING.

Can't we get a few tales from The Silmarillion instead? Elves are about ten thousand times more interesting than the often ambiguously gay hobbits.

The Hobbit (despite the name) is actually more about dwarves than it is hobbits.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Nyati13

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: santz
Best news i have heard all week!

Link
http://movies.ign.com/articles/741/741713p1.html

"Two Hobbit Films Planned
MGM touts twice the LOTR prequel action.
by IGN Staff


October 25, 2006 - MGM and New Line Cinema are moving ever closer to making J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit a big-screen reality. And now it seems that the studios may be planning not one, but two films based on the 1937 fantasy novel.

MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands revealed the plans this past weekend during a trade show in Orlando, Florida, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

The Hobbit follows Bilbo Baggins on an adventure with a band of dwarves and the wizard Gandalf as they attempt to reclaim the dwarves' stolen treasure and restore their kingdom

This is the second time in the past month that Sands has publicly commented on the project. A few weeks ago, he issued a statement in response to a fan petition urging MGM and New Line to pursue Lord of the Rings helmer Peter Jackson as the director of The Hobbit.

"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the first and only choice for directing The Hobbit. MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production," Sands said.

Keep your browser set to IGN for more Hobbit updates."

Fixed the press release for them if they want it to be successful.

Seriously - if they don't get the original cast, including bilbo and all, it'll be .

Two movies...I imagine the few action scenes from the book are going to be blown way up.

isn't bilbo supposed to be young in that book? i don't think Ian holm would work very well. They need to keep Gandalf, that's about it.

They need Gandalf and Elrond. That's all.

Makeup does wonders. I'm sure they could make him look a fair bit younger, or at least get a proper quirky british chap that looks like him.

 

[santz]

Originally posted by: Baked

Originally posted by: Majesty
The Hobbit? Yes please. Peter Jackson? No please. He already butchered LoTR.

There is enough material in The Hobbit to consider 2 movies. Even if those movies only last 90-120 minutes each, it should be quite enough. WB already made a 75 minutes comic of The Hobbit in 1977 (which was really good and very like the book. There was no changes like a psychotic Galadriel or a crazy Balrog).

Anyway, New Line said once they want to bring back the characters from LoTR... Now, it's been a while since I read the Hobbit, but as far as I can remember, the only characters that can be back are Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas (It's far fetched. He's the son of the Elvenking in Mirkwood), Gloin (he's at the Elrond's Council in LoTR) and Elrond.

Peter Jackson, for the love of Tolkien, stay away from The Hobbit and let someone REALLY make good movies out of that great story!

Go jump in volcano.

better yet, bite some ones finger off, take their ring and fall backwards , with an intensely lunatic smile on your face in the volcano.
Peter jackson was the greatest thing that could ever happen to LOTR after J.R.R Tolkien.

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: santz

"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the ONLY choice for directing The Hobbit. MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production," Sands said.

Keep your browser set to IGN for more Hobbit updates."

If he's not behind it, it shouldn't be made.

 

[mrzed]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: Majesty
The Hobbit? Yes please. Peter Jackson? No please. He already butchered LoTR.

There is enough material in The Hobbit to consider 2 movies. Even if those movies only last 90-120 minutes each, it should be quite enough. WB already made a 75 minutes comic of The Hobbit in 1977 (which was really good and very like the book. There was no changes like a psychotic Galadriel or a crazy Balrog).

Anyway, New Line said once they want to bring back the characters from LoTR... Now, it's been a while since I read the Hobbit, but as far as I can remember, the only characters that can be back are Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas (It's far fetched. He's the son of the Elvenking in Mirkwood), Gloin (he's at the Elrond's Council in LoTR) and Elrond.

Peter Jackson, for the love of Tolkien, stay away from The Hobbit and let someone REALLY make good movies out of that great story!

There's no bigger fan of LOTR than me (first read it in fifth grade, and many times since), and I have to say you're way off base here. Jackson did as good a job as anyone could, taking into account that many of the subtleties from the book (such as Galadriel's struggle with rejecting the ring) HAVE to be shown visually in a visual medium such as a film. Not sure what the problem with the Balrog scene is.

If you make a list of talented directors who are also fans of Lord of the Rings, it's going to be a pretty short list. I'd like to hear who else you were thinking of.

I am at least as big a fan of LOTR, read it in grade 4, then almost every year after that into my teens. Overall, my feeling after watching the movies was of gratitude, somebody at least had the vision to pull of the story in a convincing way, and the budget to do it right.

My main beef was with the character changes. Not Galadriel, but the replacement of Glorfindel with Arwen in the scene where Frodo is rescued. Mostly it bugged me that political correctness in the guise of increasing the profile of female characters overruled the original story.

Other than that, I thought it should have been six movies to match the books, but I admit that was just wishful thinking. And I missed Tom Bombadil.

 

[newmachineoverlord]

Originally posted by: mrzed

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: Majesty
The Hobbit? Yes please. Peter Jackson? No please. He already butchered LoTR.

There is enough material in The Hobbit to consider 2 movies. Even if those movies only last 90-120 minutes each, it should be quite enough. WB already made a 75 minutes comic of The Hobbit in 1977 (which was really good and very like the book. There was no changes like a psychotic Galadriel or a crazy Balrog).

Anyway, New Line said once they want to bring back the characters from LoTR... Now, it's been a while since I read the Hobbit, but as far as I can remember, the only characters that can be back are Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas (It's far fetched. He's the son of the Elvenking in Mirkwood), Gloin (he's at the Elrond's Council in LoTR) and Elrond.

Peter Jackson, for the love of Tolkien, stay away from The Hobbit and let someone REALLY make good movies out of that great story!

There's no bigger fan of LOTR than me (first read it in fifth grade, and many times since), and I have to say you're way off base here. Jackson did as good a job as anyone could, taking into account that many of the subtleties from the book (such as Galadriel's struggle with rejecting the ring) HAVE to be shown visually in a visual medium such as a film. Not sure what the problem with the Balrog scene is.

If you make a list of talented directors who are also fans of Lord of the Rings, it's going to be a pretty short list. I'd like to hear who else you were thinking of.

I am at least as big a fan of LOTR, read it in grade 4, then almost every year after that into my teens. Overall, my feeling after watching the movies was of gratitude, somebody at least had the vision to pull of the story in a convincing way, and the budget to do it right.

My main beef was with the character changes. Not Galadriel, but the replacement of Glorfindel with Arwen in the scene where Frodo is rescued. Mostly it bugged me that political correctness in the guise of increasing the profile of female characters overruled the original story.

Other than that, I thought it should have been six movies to match the books, but I admit that was just wishful thinking. And I missed Tom Bombadil.

Glorfindel died a couple thousand years before the coming of Frodo to Rivendell, in battle with a Balrog (the only known account of a Balrog being slain prior to Gandalf.) In no works published prior to the Death of JRRT was his resurrection explained, so giving his part in the story to Arwen is an understandable choice that avoids this confusion.

It turns out that the use of the dead Glorfindel in this case was initially an error due to not keeping his notes in order. Afterwards he decided to create a tale of Glorfindel's ressurection to explain it away. In anycase, Glorfindel's initial death was a glorious battle and I hope they make some Silmarillion movies. The Balrog scene in FOTR was awesome.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I think they should make a LOTR Holiday Special!!! :laugh:

 

[jpeyton]

A few things to ponder:

1) It'll be made whether or not PJ agrees to direct it.
2) There is definitely enough material for two films if they do it right. But the reason behind two films isn't the material...it's gross profits. Which means they will churn out two mediocre films even if the director is only interested in making one good film.

 

[BatmanNate]

Linked from the same page:

Jackson Talks The Hobbit
Legal issues and continuity with LOTR.
by Brian Linder
March 8, 2004 - Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson is already hard at work on King Kong, his remake of the genre classic with Naomi Watts set to star, but that hasn't stopped him from dreaming about returning to J.R.R. Tolkien's mythical land of Middle-earth.


As many fans of the series already know, Jackson hopes to make The Hobbit, but there are rights issues that may hold things up. Two studios, New Line and MGM, are scrapping over the rights ? New Line actually holds the rights to make the film and MGM has distribution rights.

On AP Radio this weekend, Jackson said, "I guess MGM's lawyers and New Line's lawyers are going to have a huge amount of fun over the next few years trying to work it all out. I'm obviously busy for a couple of years on King Kong so those lawyers can just go at it for a long time."

The Hobbit follows Bilbo Baggins (played by Ian Holm in the Rings films), who found the ring and passed it on to his nephew, Frodo.

Jackson tells AP that he'd want the movie to look a lot like the Rings trilogy. "I'd want Ian McKellen to be back as Gandalf, I'd want it to feel like it was part of the same mythology that we've done with Lord of the Rings," Jackson said.

Jackson's The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King was honored with 11 Academy Awards this year, winning in every category that it was nominated.

 

[clamum]

I'd be very interested to see them if Jackson directs, otherwise, NEIN.

 

[silverpig]

John Woo should direct. I want to see dragon-time.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: silverpig
John Woo should direct. I want to see dragon-time.

how would he fit in white doves and his other film signitures?

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[santz]

another interesting though, what if they use different directors for each movie?
Warner brothers has done it before and ruined the series with harry potter ( although the cast and acting is great). having different directors just ruins the overall feell and fantasy of the movie. and every director in HP series wants to blotch the story line its own pathetic and lunatic way.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: dainthomas
It's a fairly short book. I'm surprised it'll take two films, unless they didn't want another 3+ hour marathon.

thers a LOT of stuff in that book tho

IMO 2x 2 hour movies woudl be better then trying to lumpo it into one 3 hour one

 

[Sphexi]

They need to start making movies out of some of Piers Anthony's stuff. It'll capture the uber geek and teen girl audiences that LOTR missed out on. Plus, movies are always more fun with lots of puns.

 

[meltdown75]

yllus and others mentioned the Silmarillion. I'd like to add to that the Book of Lost Tales.

Each chapter is a story in itself. There are some great stories in there.

That said I think the Hobbit could be good... but the LOTR trilogy was pretty damn good and it is tough to live up to that standard.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Eh, you only need 2 people from the original cast and I'm sure McKellan would do it. I don't know why you would want Ian Holm to play a younger version of himself though.

BTW, you only have to deal with one hobbit in this book so worrying about 'ambiguosly gay' hobbits is not a big deal.

Gandalf, Bilbo, Gollum, and Elrond, that's four.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I read the hobbit and it was a great book, but I dont see how one can make two films out of it.

I could see making an entire film about just the Bard, so it certainly would be easy to make 2 films about the whole book.