Discussion [TweakTown] Guerrilla dev: PS3's Cell CPU is by far stronger than new Intel CPUs

[Hitman928]

Guerrilla dev: PS3's Cell CPU is by far stronger than new Intel CPUs

Sony's Cell architecture was beastly in power, and one dev says it's actually more powerful than today's Intel chips.

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Even desktop chips nowadays, the fastest Intel stuff you can buy is not by far as powerful as the Cell CPU, but it's very difficult to get power out of the Cell. I think it was ahead of its age, because it was a little bit more like how GPUs work nowadays, but it was maybe not balanced nicely and it was too hard to use. It overshot a little bit in power and undershot in usability, but it was definitely visionary

Interesting perspective. I completely disagree, but interesting. I think in a way it's true with the Cell having the different types of compute units, especially the SPEs which made it very powerful (on paper) for SIMD instructions compared to CPUs at the time but I don't see how it could be considered any more powerful than a modern APU.

 

[soresu]

The Skylake architecture is still competitive, I do not understand why certain people have to bash other based on their preference.

Depends on your bent - performance wise yes, performance per watt wise absolutely not.

Unlike the RDNA/Navi offerings, Zen2 shows the true benefits of moving to 7nm - even Intel's super optimised 14nm+++ just can't compete on a per watt basis, though I've still yet to see a perf/watt comparison between Matisse and 10nm Ice Lake.

As for bashing - that's tribalism for you, both sides have done it before, and will continue to do so until the big corporate merger turns it all into Taco Bell.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I came to check out any news about Cascade Lake's launch, found a thread of AMD shills bashing people looking to buy them.

Literally trying to find any excuse to call us idiots.

Seems like you're posting in the wrong thread. This is a thread about a weirdly-inaccurate article trying to portray Cell as somehow superior to modern Intel CPUs (hint: it isn't).

Right now Cascade Lake is a great product

Sure it is, pal, sure it is.

 

[lobz]

I've been considering moving to an HEDT platform ever since the original Skylake-X and TR platforms launched.

Right now Cascade Lake is a great product, better than 2nd gen TR, and cheaper than 3rd gen TR.

The Skylake architecture is still competitive, I do not understand why certain people have to bash other based on their preference.

This one guy keeps staring that people need to find excuses to buy Cascade Lake, except you actually only have excuses to buy the 3950x. This one guys also seems to have followed me to another post on this forum, and is now attacking me here.

I've actually had people tell me I don't need an HEDT platform, and reccomend parts that explicitly require an HEDT platform

Why is it bashing, when solmeone points out the simple fact that the 3950X is at least as good as the 10980X and much cheaper too? Go ahead and buy anything you like, but don't play the victim and flame others just because other people may present arguments you can't do anything with.
The best part is when you say people are attacking you, when your first moves were calling the AT forums a ....hole and most of us shills. Say what?

 

[lobz]

Seems like you're posting in the wrong thread. This is a thread about a weirdly-inaccurate article trying to portray Cell as somehow superior to modern Intel CPUs (hint: it isn't).

That's my fault, I called him out here after seeing his comment in the SKL-X thread, then posting here right after that, making polite conversation with the same people.

In other words: sorry for deterring the conversation. On topic: if they'd shrunk the PS3 down enough and gave it a display + SIM slot, it could have become a Cell phone.

 

[DrMrLordX]

On topic: if they'd shrunk the PS3 down enough and gave it a display + SIM slot, it could have become a Cell phone.

Oddly enough, I think Sony was planning to put Cell variants in a lot of things. That didn't work obviously.

 

[Jorgp2]

Oddly enough, I think Sony was planning to put Cell variants in a lot of things. That didn't work obviously.

I think they did, either they or Toshiba used it for medical imaging.
You could actually buy PCI-E add in cards from HP I think.

 

[soresu]

Oddly enough, I think Sony was planning to put Cell variants in a lot of things. That didn't work obviously.

I think they did, either they or Toshiba used it for medical imaging.
You could actually buy PCI-E add in cards from HP I think.

SpursEngine was its name.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I think they did, either they or Toshiba used it for medical imaging.
You could actually buy PCI-E add in cards from HP I think.

Yeah there were compute add-in cards. But shrunk Cell was supposed to go into consumer electronics other than the PS3. That plan never came to fruition.