Question TVs (above 4k hopefully) that work well as PC monitors?

[SaltyNuts]

I recently bought a 43" Acer to replace my 43" LG that died, both monitors. I love it. I know there are those "ultra-wide" monitors that are bigger width wise, but not as tall, saw one in the store and Did. Not. Want.

I know people have talked about LED TVs as monitors like forever, and I know there are downsides to using one as a monitor. So my question is this - are there any 48"+ LED TVs that work especially well as monitors? I actually game less on it than I do regular work (Word, Excel, etc), so I would need crisp text, easy on the eyes. And I think 4k is 3840 x 2160, which I think is what my 43" has, so I would really want a higher resolution, not that same resolution just scaled up so each pixel is bigger but maybe looking worse as a whole because its bigger pixels on my bigger screen. So maybe one or more steps up, resolution wise?

Any TVs that might fit the bill, at a not-too-insane price?

Thanks!!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Honestly, not sure if there are any consumer TV displays with higher-than-4K-UHD-res. There just isn't much consumer content for them yet, so they would be useless as TVs.

If you want higher res, look at "commercial displays", 5K and 8K. You might find something there.

Edit: Honeatly though, if I can watch a 1080P Blu-Ray commercial disc on a friend's 80" 1080P TV, and not see jaggies from across the room on a couch, then I think that you would be fine with 4K at a larger size than 43" without jaggies.

You can always enable VSR on an AMD GCN or newer GPU, and crank the res to at least 5K on a 4K UHD display; I've done just that.

 

[mnewsham]

There are 8k TVs out there, but you're spending at minimum around $2,000 and the 2021 models are usually more like $4000-5000.

And that's only for standard QLED or the new QNED from LG. An 8k OLED will run you ~$30k.

So yes larger resolution exists, but at present the minimum panel size is 65" and they're just not great price. Not to mention no real 8k media existing.

Also, you probably don't own a GPU that can actually output an 8k signal. It would require HDMI 2.1 and that means the Nvidia RTX 3000 series or Radeon RX 6000 series.

the only other higher res monitors are much smaller the 27" 5k LGs, and the 32" 6k pro display XDR from apple.

 

[aigomorla]

OLED's i am still not on the boat as it being a great PC monitor because of burn in.
I am not a fan of having to change your sitting habits.
In fact, i feel that should always be the last solution to anything unless your sitting habits are just horrible beyond ignoring.

But a OLED will make you do that.

The LG NanoCell's are pretty good, so is the Samsung QLED.
There are some downsides in using a TV as a monitor tho, mostly they lie in how the monitor behaves when sleeping.

 

[Red Squirrel]

8k might be the answer, give it a few years and bet they will be under a grand. I always felt TVs are way too big for 4k as a monitor, but 8k is a different story, I think if you were to wall mount it at the end of your desk it would be perfect. Plus you get all that clear desk space in front of it for other activities like reading or if you are using books to reference stuff you're working on etc. I don't know how that works out in terms of ergonomics though to have a display that is far away, maybe it's fine if it's very big?

If going 4k I find sticking to around 29" and under the prices are getting more reasonable now for actual monitors so that may be an option too. I have 2x 29" one on top of each other with the bottom one being primary, and it's perfect for coding and doing other work, as well as doing my job when working from home. I originally wanted a 32" but they are so expensive, so for same price I bought two 29" and glad I did, 32 would have been too big I think.

 

[CP5670]

I use a 77" TV as a monitor and find 4K perfect for both games and desktop use, since I sit much further away than a regular monitor (5-7' away). 8K would be very detailed but make it hard to use, especially in older apps that don't scale properly. It also needs at least one more GPU generation to be usable in games. Maybe for graphics/CAD work it would be worth it.

 

[aigomorla]

I originally wanted a 32" but they are so expensive, so for same price I bought two 29" and glad I did, 32 would have been too big I think.

Yeah i have no idea why they are so expensive.
And only less then a handful of them are even 120hz+
But Squirrel, there is also this monstrosity.

Amazon.com

It costs more then all the monitors i have on my desk combined... but its mini led!
Won't ever experience the burn in you have on your TUF.
Only it will cost you as much as 10 x TUF's

 

[Merlisha Jones]

I guess there are 8k tvs out in the market. But they are costly and worth the price. Larger resolutions TV are there too with 65" as much as i know.

 

[SaltyNuts]

What about something like this:



https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-65-i...a-403a-923c-8152c45485fe&tag=imoreosp-20&th=1


65 inch, 8k, under $2k, could literally put it on the wall all the other way on the other side of room and still have basically perfect text, much less graphics, no?

Thanks!!!

 

[mnewsham]

What about something like this:

65 inch, 8k, under $2k, could literally put it on the wall all the other way on the other side of room and still have basically perfect text, much less graphics, no?

Thanks!!!

If you wanted to use it across the room, you'll need to use GUI scaling. Not native scale.

At 100% GUI scale you'd need to sit ~2-4 feet from the panel to be usable.

Also, I still don't see how you plan on actually displaying anything 8k, you still need a brand new high end GPU with HDMI 2.1 just to use 8k res.

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stari.co

To get the benefit from a 65" 8k panel you need to sit within the two green lines (between 2 and 4 feet distance). Beyond 4 feet you might as well use 4k as it'll look the same anyway.


8k in my opinion should be used at smaller panel sizes like ~40" and then GUI scaled to 200% (4k equivalent) for a 4k desktop, but with double the pixel density for smoother edges and fonts. OR used on much larger panels ~80"+ or much larger (100"+) projectors. The 55-77" range just seems too small for big-screen viewing, and too big for desktop PC use.

 

[SaltyNuts]

mnewsham, that is some deep shiat. I mean DEEP shiat. Let me study it, will follow up. Might be a few days, very busy, but will follow up.

Thanks so much!!!

 

[Oyeve]

I use ny 75" LG NANO90 for PC gaming and work. The text can scale fine with some tweaking.