TV ad censored as it may be offensive to Bush

Skyclad1uhm1

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Censorship can go too far.
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Like Bush would even care...
 

Electrode

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First a Canadian spokeswoman calls Bush a moron, now british commercials are poking fun at him. Is the world trying to tell us something? :confused:
 

SaltBoy

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People making a mountain out of an anthill... Puh-leeze.

I'm a huge Bush supporter, and even I don't have a problem with this ad.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: SaltBoy
People making a mountain out of an anthill... Puh-leeze.

I'm a huge Bush supporter, and even I don't have a problem with this ad.

Me too....this is just silly. They don't have freedom of speech over there now?? Anywayz....If they want to see a funny Bush impression, watch Will Ferril's immitation on SNL. Too bad he left the show though.
 

Buddhist

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
People making a mountain out of an anthill... Puh-leeze.

I'm a huge Bush supporter, and even I don't have a problem with this ad.

Me too....this is just silly. They don't have freedom of speech over there now?? Anywayz....If they want to see a funny Bush impression, watch Will Ferril's immitation on SNL. Too bad he left the show though.

If things keep going the way they have with politics, freedom of speech will be over here soon too. Not to mention any formerly constitutional rights. Welcome to a "better, safer America."

-M.T.O
 

hdeck

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Originally posted by: Buddhist
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
People making a mountain out of an anthill... Puh-leeze.

I'm a huge Bush supporter, and even I don't have a problem with this ad.

Me too....this is just silly. They don't have freedom of speech over there now?? Anywayz....If they want to see a funny Bush impression, watch Will Ferril's immitation on SNL. Too bad he left the show though.

If things keep going the way they have with politics, freedom of speech will be over here soon too. Not to mention any formerly constitutional rights. Welcome to a "better, safer America."

-M.T.O

you're jumping the gun way too early.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Buddhist
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
People making a mountain out of an anthill... Puh-leeze.

I'm a huge Bush supporter, and even I don't have a problem with this ad.

Me too....this is just silly. They don't have freedom of speech over there now?? Anywayz....If they want to see a funny Bush impression, watch Will Ferril's immitation on SNL. Too bad he left the show though.

If things keep going the way they have with politics, freedom of speech will be over here soon too. Not to mention any formerly constitutional rights. Welcome to a "better, safer America."

-M.T.O

You unpatriotic, liberal, American hating scumbag!!
 

Aceshigh

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I don't think it's a big deal. According to the article they produced a similar one mocking David Beckham who is like a god over there. The british are well known for self-depricating humor. I am a Bush supporter too by the way.

Funny how I find it acceptable when the british make fun of our president but I don't like it when canadians do it. The british have proved themselves to us time and time again as great allies. Yes Canada may be our largest shipping partner but their government still has a weasly tinge to it. When the mess goes down the british almost always unflinchingly support us while canada is often silent.
 

UDT89

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Originally posted by: Electrode
First a Canadian spokeswoman calls Bush a moron, now british commercials are poking fun at him. Is the world trying to tell us something? :confused:


Yea that canada sucks, and the brits are still pissed we kicked their arse 200+ years ago.


PS
:)....and dont flame me, im joking.
 

bizmark

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TV ad censored as it may be offensive to Bush

No, it's censored because it's not following the rules.

"With limited exceptions, living people must not be portrayed, caricatured or referred to in adverts without their permission."

He stressed that the ITC's advertising code was stricter than its programmes code because adverts "come into your home unbidden and with no warning about their content".

Makes sense to me. Advertisements may not carry the likeness of an individual without the permission of the individual portrayed. Without this rule, an advertiser could put Michael Jordan's face in some ad without his permission, implying that Michael Jordan endorses the product. While I do think that this case goes a bit overboard in that it carries the letter of the law past the extent intended by the spirit of the law, it's necessary to apply rules evenly and not make exceptions for one case or the other. That's the whole point of rule by law and not by individuals.

If this were on a TV show like SNL, they'd have no problem with it. The problem is that it's an advertisement.

BTW if you look at the political threads I've posted in recently, you might conclude that I'm a "Bush Hater", but I'm still defending this decision.
 

Buddhist

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Hdeck,

you say i'm jumping the gun early... but am I?

The patriot act was passed. (a bogus name. Who would vote against something called the patriot act even if it was one of the MOST unpatriotic acts passed in congress ever?)

The patriot act essentially all but rapes the fourth amendments most liberal of interpretations. Your constituitional rights under the fourth amendment are sacrified if even being casually accused of being associated with terrorism.
Yes, its good to find terrorists. No, its not good to do a greater damage in the end by doing so.

For example, did you know thanks to the patriot act, attorney client privilege can now be violated by the government. The government can now eaves drop in on communications between you and your lawyer. This was not permitted before the patriot act.

Or, law enforcement has greater authority to now enter into someone's home, snoop around, and even place or remove physical objects without presenting a warrant prior to entering. They can even delay presenting the warrant for unreasonably long times. Although this was a power granted previously, it was only excersized under the most stringent of probable causes.

If you want to read more about what a veiled name the "patriot" act really is, check EFF's argument against it. Electronic Frontier Foundation


Now, as to Jellomancers comment "You unpatriotic, liberal, American hating scumbag!!"
I can only imagine you must of been kidding. Wanting to protect and preserve constitutional rights makes me a liberal, unpatriotic, American hating scumbag? Well, then again, according to Aschroft, _any_ "civil disobedience" is grounds for a terrorist investigation. (Yup! Thats written into the patriot act too! Hows that for freedom of speech? In fact, just for writing what I've written, under the most [sarcasm] patriotic of patriot causes [/sarcasm], the patriot act, allows for a terrorist investigation of me. Because, i've spoken up against the passing of the patriot act and have criticized it here. This makes me a disobedient civillian according to John Ashcroft, the attorney general, who can authorize such an investigation.)

I'd like to point out a sad fact. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died for their country, fighting for what they believed in.

With the sweep of a pen signing the patriot act, we've begun erasing all that they stood for.

Its like that simpson's episode about the "Amendment to be" song and how at the end, all the bills go rushing in after the passed bill says "Its all open now boys! Yeeeha!" Thats what the patriot act has done. Its opened the floodgates to continue placing limitations on constitutional rights. Freedom is very easy to take away subtly, but very difficult to ever get back.

Welcome to a better, safer, America. Do you understand?

-M.T.O


 

Buddhist

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"Funny how I find it acceptable when the british make fun of our president but I don't like it when canadians do it. The british have proved themselves to us time and time again as great allies. Yes Canada may be our largest shipping partner but their government still has a weasly tinge to it. When the mess goes down the british almost always unflinchingly support us while canada is often silent. "


You should probably know that Canada was first to help the British in both World War I, and II. Canada fought by our side on the day we stormed the beaches of normandy.
They've also tend to be the first to jump on board AND volunteer soldgiers for almost every UN mission. This includes one's presented and supported by the US while most other countries in the world disagree.

Canada, like the English, are one of the United States greatest allies.

[tongue in cheek] And besides that, you wouldn't ridicule someone for calling a rock what it is would you? Much less a Canadian calling a rock what it is. :p [/end tongue in cheek]
 

dolph

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um... who doesn't get that this is in england? NOT the us?

at least they're consistent, though. they say that if someone wanted to make fun of osama bin laden or saddam hussein, they'd have to get their permission, too. how reasonable.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Buddhist
Hdeck,

you say i'm jumping the gun early... but am I?

The patriot act was passed, and now the freedom of information act is in motion. (a bogus name. Who would vote against something called the patriot act even if it was one of the MOST unpatriotic acts passed in congress ever?)

The patriot act essentially all but rapes the fourth amendments most liberal of interpretations. Your constituitional rights under the fourth amendment are sacrified if even being casually accused of being associated with terrorism.
Yes, its good to find terrorists. No, its not good to do a greater damage in the end by doing so.

For example, did you know thanks to the patriot act, attorney client privilege can now be violated by the government. The government can now eaves drop in on communications between you and your lawyer. This was not permitted before the patriot act.

Or, law enforcement has greater authority to now enter into someone's home, snoop around, and even place or remove physical objects without presenting a warrant prior to entering. They can even delay presenting the warrant for unreasonably long times. Although this was a power granted previously, it was only excersized under the most stringent of probable causes.

If you want to read more about what a veiled name the "patriot" act really is, check EFF's argument against it. http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_usa_patriot_analysis.html


Now, as to Jellomancers comment "You unpatriotic, liberal, American hating scumbag!!"
I can only imagine you must of been kidding. Wanting to protect and preserve constitutional rights makes me a liberal, unpatriotic, American hating scumbag? Well, then again, according to Aschroft, _any_ "civil disobedience" is grounds for a terrorist investigation. (Yup! Thats written into the patriot act too! Hows that for freedom of speech? In fact, just for writing what I've written, under the most [sarcasm] patriotic of patriot causes [/sarcasm], the patriot act, allows for a terrorist investigation of me. Because, i've spoken up against the passing of the patriot act and have criticized it here. This makes me a disobedient civillian according to John Ashcroft, the attorney general, who can authorize such an investigation.)

I'd like to point out a sad fact. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died for their country, fighting for what they believed in.

With the sweep of a pen signing the patriot act, we've begun erasing all that they stood for.

Its like that simpson's episode about the "Amendment to be" song and how at the end, all the bills go rushing in after the passed bill says "Its all open now boys! Yeeeha!" Thats what the patriot act has done. Its opened the floodgates to continue placing limitations on constitutional rights. Freedom is very easy to take away subtly, but very difficult to ever get back.

Welcome to a better, safer, America. Do you understand?

-M.T.O

I fully agree with you, but Americans in general don't care. You guys can keep screwing yourselves, I'm moving to Canada or the UK.