Turns out it IS all the fault of the poor. Proof inside!

[XZeroII]

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.


Frickin' Poor People! It's all their fault.

 

[naddicott]

Didn't schizoid already make this thread and have it get instantly locked?

Seriously.

 

[XZeroII]

I'm actually giving reasons. Why woudn't the "fault of the rich" one get locked, then? I think both sides need to be addressed.

 

[naddicott]

I do like your preamble better. I have no idea why the mods choose which thread to lock or not.

Your title is pretty much a repost though.

 

[rjain]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I'm actually giving reasons. Why woudn't the "fault of the rich" one get locked, then? I think both sides need to be addressed.

Becuase it's good to attack rich people and bad to say anything wrong about poor people.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I'm actually giving reasons. Why woudn't the "fault of the rich" one get locked, then? I think both sides need to be addressed.

Becuase it's good to attack rich people and bad to say anything wrong about poor people.

It seems that way, doesn't it?

 

[DealMonkey]

Wow, I go on vacation for two weeks and I have crappy threads like this to look forward to? Blah.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

 

[bothered]

where's the proof?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: bothered
where's the proof?

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.

 

[naddicott]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered
where's the proof?

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.

Didn't you know? If it's bold it must be true!

 

[rjain]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

True, but the question remains: would these "service providers" be providing said services if there weren't vast sums of money to be made at the expense of others? I'm not advocating communism or socialism here - far from it. I just think the world would be better off if everyone had a little more empathy and weren't so motivated by greed.

 

[rjain]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

True, but the question remains: would these "service providers" be providing said services if there weren't vast sums of money to be made at the expense of others? I'm not advocating communism or socialism here - far from it. I just think the world would be better off if everyone had a little more empathy and weren't so motivated by greed.

Why would anyone pay someone else to exploit them? They're not making any money at the involuntary expense of others. You are free to use any money you have as you please. If you don't want some product or service, don't buy it. If you are buying it, everyone else can safely assume that it was worth more to you than some other product or service you could get for the same amount of money. Everyone who is rich is as greedy as everyone who is poor is a wastrel.

 

[bothered]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered
where's the proof?

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.

So your saying if there wasn't poverty things would be clean. OR If no one was poor there wouldn't be poor people.

And what the heck is IT ?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: bothered

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered
where's the proof?

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.

So your saying if there wasn't poverty things would be clean. OR If no one was poor there wouldn't be poor people.

And what the heck is IT ?

If there wasn't poverty things would be clean.

Please show me where I said 'it'. I'm not sure what you mean.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm showing you the real world. I never said that we should exterminate poor people or anything, but this is life. Tons of problems in our world are caused by the fact that there are poor people.
Look at a rich neighborhood once. It looks very nice. Look at an area with lots of poor people, it's usually a slum.

You are reading too much into what I'm saying. People who help others are good people. But this is the land of opportunity and no matter what anyone says, anyone can move ahead in this world. Everyone gets a free education (through HS). Then, even if you don't have any money, you can still go to college. Then you can get a decent job. Anyone can do it. The only way you can stay poor for a long time is if you resign yourself to it, and that causes problems. If it weren't for all those people, the world would be a better place (as I said in my original post).

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm showing you the real world. I never said that we should exterminate poor people or anything, but this is life. Tons of problems in our world are caused by the fact that there are poor people.
Look at a rich neighborhood once. It looks very nice. Look at an area with lots of poor people, it's usually a slum.

You are reading too much into what I'm saying. People who help others are good people. But this is the land of opportunity and no matter what anyone says, anyone can move ahead in this world. Everyone gets a free education (through HS). Then, even if you don't have any money, you can still go to college. Then you can get a decent job. Anyone can do it. The only way you can stay poor for a long time is if you resign yourself to it, and that causes problems. If it weren't for all those people, the world would be a better place (as I said in my original post).

You're right, poverty is a problem in the world we live in. In an ideal world there may or may not be poverty, and there may or may not even be money. What about people who are laid off from their jobs or are underpaid/undermployed? They go through college and rack up large amounts of debt, get out into the workforce and are underpaid/underemployed or even laid off. Where does that leave them? You can't tell me that someone who is laid off due to a poor economy or poor business planning is responsible for being poor. The same goes for those who are underpaid/underemployed. These people work hard all their lives only to have some greedy corporate entity tell them "you're not good enough" and are just barely able to make ends meet.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

True, but the question remains: would these "service providers" be providing said services if there weren't vast sums of money to be made at the expense of others? I'm not advocating communism or socialism here - far from it. I just think the world would be better off if everyone had a little more empathy and weren't so motivated by greed.

Why would anyone pay someone else to exploit them? They're not making any money at the involuntary expense of others. You are free to use any money you have as you please. If you don't want some product or service, don't buy it. If you are buying it, everyone else can safely assume that it was worth more to you than some other product or service you could get for the same amount of money. Everyone who is rich is as greedy as everyone who is poor is a wastrel.

I never said people don't have a choice. You can choose to be poor and you can choose to be rich but there are extenuating circumstances in life which can lead people down either path. As far as having a choice of buying or not buying a product goes you're absolutely right. No one has to buy anything. Of course, when the "anything" you need is food, water, shelter, clothing, medical treatment, etc. you don't have much of a choice there if you want to continue living. There's not much competition out there when it comes to the aforementioned necessities. It's not like you can get water from a different "water company". Corporate homogenization has virtually eliminated competition in the market place. There are very few and sometimes no alternatives when it comes to buying products or services.

 

[konichiwa]

It's pretty obtuse to say that the problems of the world can be blamed on poor people. Do you think they choose to be that way?

1.22 Billion people (yes, that's billion with a B) live on less than $1 per day. Per day. That's one in six people in the world.
2.8 Billion live on less than $2 per day. That's more than a third of the world's population. Can you imagine living on less than $2/day?

 

[bothered]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered
where's the proof?

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.

So your saying if there wasn't poverty things would be clean. OR If no one was poor there wouldn't be poor people.

And what the heck is IT ?

If there wasn't poverty things would be clean.

Please show me where I said 'it'. I'm not sure what you mean.

You referred to 'it' in your magnanimously ignoble title. But what is it?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
It's pretty obtuse to say that the problems of the world can be blamed on poor people. Do you think they choose to be that way?

1.22 Billion people (yes, that's billion with a B) live on less than $1 per day. Per day. That's one in six people in the world.
2.8 Billion live on less than $2 per day. That's more than a third of the world's population. Can you imagine living on less than $2/day?

Has anyone ever figured out what the total "income" of the world is, and if we divided it up amongst the 6 billioin or whatever in the world, what the average person would make? I'm just curious...I have a theory that we just plumb have too many people, not enough money...

I can't figure out how to google it

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: rjain

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise you have some serious issues, lack of empathy for your fellow man being the primary among them.

Absolutely. Those who are blaming the ills of the world on those who provide serivce to those who need it also have serious issues.

I'm not being sarcastic. I'm showing you the real world. I never said that we should exterminate poor people or anything, but this is life. Tons of problems in our world are caused by the fact that there are poor people.
Look at a rich neighborhood once. It looks very nice. Look at an area with lots of poor people, it's usually a slum.

You are reading too much into what I'm saying. People who help others are good people. But this is the land of opportunity and no matter what anyone says, anyone can move ahead in this world. Everyone gets a free education (through HS). Then, even if you don't have any money, you can still go to college. Then you can get a decent job. Anyone can do it. The only way you can stay poor for a long time is if you resign yourself to it, and that causes problems. If it weren't for all those people, the world would be a better place (as I said in my original post).

You're right, poverty is a problem in the world we live in. In an ideal world there may or may not be poverty, and there may or may not even be money. What about people who are laid off from their jobs or are underpaid/undermployed? They go through college and rack up large amounts of debt, get out into the workforce and are underpaid/underemployed or even laid off. Where does that leave them? You can't tell me that someone who is laid off due to a poor economy or poor business planning is responsible for being poor. The same goes for those who are underpaid/underemployed. These people work hard all their lives only to have some greedy corporate entity tell them "you're not good enough" and are just barely able to make ends meet.

I can't think of many people who have gone through college (a good one, and actually worked hard) and are still poor unless they made some poor decisions in life (having a child too early, or something). Many people think you need a nice car, and need $100 shoes. This is not true and can cause a person to be poor. They rake up debt and don't manage their money well. Even a person who makes $7/hour makes $280 per week, thus $1120 per month. Gov't takes approx 10%, leaving $1008. Now lets say that person lives megerly and rents a single room apt. for $550 per month. That leaves $458. A person doesn't have to eat like a king, or go out all the time, so that person may spend $80 on food per month. $378 left. Utilities, $100. $278 left. Gas, 50. $228 left. Then look at other misc stuff and you'll see that you can live.

This is a person making a meager $7 per hour. If a person can live on $7/hour, there is no excuses. If you chose to have a child, then that's your responsibility (lets not get into rape and such). You should have thought of that before you had sex.

My point is that anyone can get by even working at a cheapo job. If you get layed off, there is even unemployment and other programs to help you get back on your feet. However, most poor people aren't poor simply because they lost their jobs. It's because they've resigned themselves to being poor. They made choices in life that put them there.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: bothered

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: bothered
where's the proof?

If there weren't poor people, then everyone would have lots of money and be happy! The poor people suck up money from hard working people by way of welfare. They are more prone to criminal acts, thus increasing crime. They turn our beautiful cities into slums.

So your saying if there wasn't poverty things would be clean. OR If no one was poor there wouldn't be poor people.

And what the heck is IT ?

If there wasn't poverty things would be clean.

Please show me where I said 'it'. I'm not sure what you mean.

You referred to 'it' in your magnanimously ignoble title. But what is it?

lol, I just copied the title from another thread and changed the word rich to poor. I don't know what IT is. I just assume it means everything. *shrug*

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Perhaps you can round them all up and gas them a la Hitler.