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LordThing

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Yeah, no kiddin.....Posting titles to threads like that Post 9-11 only will cause people to think very bad things. Not that a helicopter crash isn't bad...but still, no need to be scarin us like that.
 

trmiv

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Wow, it just started kind losing control, and the rotors hit the mountain. Crazy
 

Murphyrulez

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Blackhawk down. They are showing the video of a Blackhawk military copter hovering close to Mt. Hood in Oregon. The helicopter appears to lose lift and spiral into the mountainside, then rolling 100 yards or so down the mountain.
 

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I clicked this thread thinking that Pakistan had nuked India.

Whew.
 

dakata24

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hopefully everyone was strapped in and nobody got hit by the rotorblade shrapnel.. that sux. cnn says that ~7-10 climbers fell and were trapped in a crevice or something.. 3 of the climbers presumed dead.
 

skyking

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5 on board, and my view of the video looked like two folks were thrown out of and rolled over by the helicopter. This is terrible, I hope those Air Force crewmembers are OK.
 

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It does look like a couple of guys came out of the copter. I hope they are okay.
 

911paramedic

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holey crapola! I have done rescues on those before.

The crew members should be OK from the footage I saw, since there was no fire. They said that everybody would be in 4-point harnesses, when I was only in a simple seatbelt when onboard.

Pics to follow...
 

Murphyrulez

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You can see the two guys tossed out the open door, then the copter rolls right over both of them.

Ugh.

One critically injured, 3 unknown injuries.
 

Kaervak

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After seeing the replay a few times you can see a couple crew men get thrown from the chopper as it's rolling. Hopefully everyone is ok. 2002 isn't a good year.
 

911paramedic

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This is when we landed on top of El Capitan LANDING.
Our setup on the small ledge 3.500 ft above the canyon floor. small ledge.
The terrain we carried the patient up after the rescue. (about 750 ft) notice the angle, and it took about an hour to get the patient up tnis
The landing zone the morning after with El Capitan in the background (it is 3,500 feet tall) This is where we did the rescue from

Blackhawks are very stable from my personal experience. We were only held in by waist belts for the flight however, contrary to the news reports regarding 4 point belts for everybody. The crew was very professional and did not take anything for chance. They were a pararescue group out of northern california.

We all had to wear the nomex (fire resistant) suits before boarding and the crew was very professional.

God bless the crew of the recent accident.
 

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
This is when we landed on top of El Capitan LANDING.
Our setup on the small ledge 3.500 ft above the canyon floor. small ledge.
The terrain we carried the patient up after the rescue. (about 750 ft) notice the angle, and it took about an hour to get the patient up tnis
The landing zone the morning after with El Capitan in the background (it is 3,500 feet tall) This is where we did the rescue from

Blackhawks are very stable from my personal experience. We were only held in by waist belts for the flight however, contrary to the news reports regarding 4 point belts for everybody. The crew was very professional and did not take anything for chance. They were a pararescue group out of northern california.

We all had to wear the nomex (fire resistant) suits before boarding and the crew was very professional.

God bless the crew of the recent accident.

i think people shouldn't be rescued unless they've posted a bond.

seeing a few skeletons on a mountainside would discourage dilettantes.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Spamela
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
This is when we landed on top of El Capitan LANDING.
Our setup on the small ledge 3.500 ft above the canyon floor. small ledge.
The terrain we carried the patient up after the rescue. (about 750 ft) notice the angle, and it took about an hour to get the patient up tnis
The landing zone the morning after with El Capitan in the background (it is 3,500 feet tall) This is where we did the rescue from

Blackhawks are very stable from my personal experience. We were only held in by waist belts for the flight however, contrary to the news reports regarding 4 point belts for everybody. The crew was very professional and did not take anything for chance. They were a pararescue group out of northern california.

We all had to wear the nomex (fire resistant) suits before boarding and the crew was very professional.

God bless the crew of the recent accident.

i think people shouldn't be rescued unless they've posted a bond.

seeing a few skeletons on a mountainside would discourage dilettantes.

I have very mixed feelings about these types of rescue missions, at some point people have to take responsibility for their own mistakes/inadequacies/luck of the draw. I suppose the crews know the dangers, though, & I imagine it's a hell of a job (adrenaline, sense of accomplishment, etc), so I guess they too take risks.

Viper GTS
 

911paramedic

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i think people shouldn't be rescued unless they've posted a bond.

He was a world famous climber from Japan. His friends reported him lost when they found his blood stained helmet (had his name on it) at the bottom of the ledge.

People are charged when they get themselves into trouble because of disregarding warnings. If our climber was a novice, and was climbing a route that was much harder than his experience level, he would have been charged.

Our climber got injured because he had a fall and his safety broke loose. He ended up falling twice as far as he should have, causing his injury. (he was on the ledge for about 36 hours before we got him).

If people are ignorant and do not use common sense, they do get charged for rescues.
 

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I have cnn.com as my start page and everytime I expect to see "Pakistan and India launch nukes" at the top breaking news section. It's kinda weird if there's no bad news to report, like crashes, deaths, etc.
 

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Our rescue:

INJURED CLIMBER RESCUED FROM EL CAPITAN


July 13, 1997

An injured Japanese climber was flown off the summit of El Capitan Sunday morning after spending the night with rescue team members who hauled him up the side of the cliff to safety shortly before dark Saturday evening.

33 year old Hideki Inaba is an experienced mountaineer from Japan. He was making a difficult, multi-day technical solo climb of the "Cosmos" route up the face of El Capitan. Through broken English, Inaba told rescuers he fell about 30 feet while making a climbing move Friday morning, smashing his head into the granite rock face. Members of his climbing party discovered his blood-stained helmet Saturday morning and alerted rangers, who began an extensive rescue effort.

Rescuers were flown by helicopter to the top of El Capitan, where they proceed to lower medical personnel down to the injured man. Inaba was on a rock ledge, alert and moving around. He had a large cut behind his right ear, complained of spinal pain between his shoulder blades, and was very hungry and thirsty.

Rescuers put Inaba in a litter and hauled him over 600 feet up the rock face to the top of the cliff. He was placed in a spinal collar and on a long board as a precautionary measure. By then it was too dark to fly Inaba to Yosemite Valley. He and 15 rescue team members spent the night on the top of El Capitan.

Inaba was flown off the summit to El Capitan Meadow at 9:30 a.m., then taken by ambulance to the Yosemite Medical Clinic for evaluation and x-rays. He was reported in stable condition.

As many as three dozen people were involved in the rescue effort, including Yosemite National Park rangers, Yosemite Search and Rescue Team members, the Marin Co. Search and Rescue Team, the U.S. Forest Service, and the California Air National Guard .


EL CAPITAN CLIMBER STATUS UPDATE

July 13, 1997

33 year old Hideki Inaba is being treated at the Yosemite Medical Clinic in Yosemite Valley. The laceration behind his right ear has been sutured. Medical personnel are in the process of rehydrating him. Inaba is expected to be released from the clinic later this afternoon.



DARKNESS HALTS RESCUE OF INJURED EL CAPITAN CLIMBER


July 12, 1997

An injured Japanese climber and 17 rescue team members are spending the night on the top of El Capitan in Yosemite National Park.

Hideki Inaba, 33, from Japan, was solo climbing the difficult "Cosmos" route up the face of El Capitan when he reportedly fell about 6:30 a.m. Friday morning. Two other climbers found his blood stained helmet at the base of the mountain Saturday morning and reported it to rangers.

Search and Rescue team members used a telescope to spot Inaba on the mountain. With a bull horn and another climber to translate, they were able to learn Inaba was injured and was seeking help.

As many as three dozen people were involved in the rescue effort, including the Marin Co. Search and Rescue Team, a U.S. Forest Service helicopter, and a California Air National Guard helicopter and refueling tanker from Moffat Field. Inaba was secured in a litter and slowly winched up roughly 600 feet, reaching the top of El Capitan by about 7:40 p.m.

Medical personnel on the scene report the climber has a gash behind one ear, and is reporting some spinal pain. He'll spend the night in a spinal collar and secured to a long board as a precautionary measure.

Inaba will be carried to a safe landing zone on the El Capitan summit in the morning where he'll be taken by helicopter to a medical facility.