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Turion, Pentium M, Which one?

Stokes

Senior member
I'm looking to purchase a laptop in the $1000 range, plus or minus a few hundred. I'm an AMD fan and would love to support AMD with their Turion or just any AMD built system. This system will not have any gaming on it really, if there is it won't be anything near demanding.

It needs to have good picture quality for movies, have firewire, etc. Needs to have really good battery life, would prefer that it came with a larger cell battery so I don't have to purchase another one.

Software is of no concern, I have all that myself so I'd prefer if I didn't have to spend the extra cash.

The Acer Ferarri series is impressive except really costly. What are the options?
 
HP L2000, Acer 5002 series are 2 that I can think of off the top of my head. The Acer is on sale right now at Microcenter (if you have one near your house) for $899 AR.
 
Compaq V2000Z. You can configure one with a 1.8 GHZ turion 1GB DDR and an extra 12 cell battery for 1120. Free shipping. After rebates of course.
 
Thanks for the pointers fellas. I completely forgot HP/Compaq used AMD processors as well as Intel.

What is the real difference between say an Athlon 64 3500+ at 2.2ghz versus the Turion 1.8Ghz.

The R4000 series offers a nice 15.4 screen and all the same options, except for what i mentioned above, for just about the same price.
 
the turions are the same cpu's as the athlon 64s except turions run at a lower wattage and voltage, afaik. So a 1.8ghz turion should be more or less equal in performance to a 1.8ghz a64
 
Turion is basically a speed-binned mobile A64. It will offer very comparable performance, in fact practically identical performance at the same clock speeds.
The R4000 is not a portable notebook with good battery life. First, it is rather large. Something on the order of 7-8lbs or so? Second, it uses a regular desktop A64 chip; you will get about 3-4 hours out of a 12-cell battery. For comparison, a Centrino notebook would get 6-7 hours out of a 12-cell.

It is not entirely apparent how well Turion will perform in regards to battery life, but the current estimates for the ML (35W) Turions are about 10% less than Pentium M.

If you want a reasonably portable Turion system, I highly recommend checking out the L2000. If you don't mind the Lance Armstrong stuff all over it, it is incredibly cheap and is the same thing as a Compaq V2000z.
Get the fastest CPU you can afford, the 12-cell battery, and I believe it comes with a 60GB 5400RPM. I also believe it comes w/1x512MB DDR333 standard. The ATI Xpress200M chipset used SHOULD support DDR400; so you could buy some DDR400 for cheap and drop it in. Keep in mind you have to ditch the old RAM to use the higher clock speed of DDR 400. Downside is integrated X300 graphics w/shared RAM; you won't be getting much/any gaming performance.

For a less portable option that should be out soon, the Acer 5020 series will use a Turion with 15.4" screen and X700 graphics. If you don't need gaming performance, check out the Acer 5002 previously mentioned. Major diff is the 5002 has integrated graphics.
 
Originally posted by: Stokes
I'm an AMD fan and would love to support AMD with their Turion or just any AMD built system.

...

Needs to have really good battery life

You need to decide which of those statements is more important to you. Of course, if fbrdphreak's estimates are correct, 10% less battery life with the AMD isn't bad.

This thread is pretty much identical except for the AMD preference:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=51&threadid=1635544&enterthread=y

If you really want an AMD, the L2000 certainly looks like the best deal. It's only $899, and the 2-year warranty takes it up to $998. I'd also at least spring for the extra $25 to get the CPU with 1MB L2 cache. The 12-cell battery is only $25, but that'll make the laptop bigger -- it sticks out of the bottom of the laptop and sort of props the back up. It's definitely something you want to try and have a look at in the store before you get it as your primary battery.
 
I'm liking the idea of that HP Compaq nx6125. 15" Screen, Turion, all good stuff.

I just wish I could customize it a bit more, then what they offer, maybe calling in would change some things.
 
The only thing about HP laptops, a coworker here says he completely despises them because of their lack of reliability, with having hard drive failures and saying you have a 50/50 chance of getting a bad one.

I've had a Compaq Presario 2135US for awhile and never had a problem, anything to actually worry about? He really was gunning for IBM
 
Well, of course an IBM will be more reliable, but that's not exactly relevant to any discussion of $1000 laptops.
 
Thanks for your help.

I think we decided on the M2000Z

It was a good compromise for screen size and overall size of the laptop. Going with a 1.8 Turion and 512Ram and the true brite feature. Good choice?

With everything and a printer and a 60GB hard drive priced at $1008.97. Only drawback is the hard drive is 4200RPM, but for her, that won't really do much.
 
Originally posted by: Stokes
Thanks for your help.

I think we decided on the M2000Z

It was a good compromise for screen size and overall size of the laptop. Going with a 1.8 Turion and 512Ram and the true brite feature. Good choice?

With everything and a printer and a 60GB hard drive priced at $1008.97. Only drawback is the hard drive is 4200RPM, but for her, that won't really do much.
In my opinion, I would get the nx6125. Personally I hate 15" XGA screens. Also, as the baseline HP notebook the M2000z won't have as good build quality as an nx6125. You also get a 3 year warranty standard, biometric security, and bluetooth. You have the option of the SXGA+ screen, which is a must IMO.
 
Problem with that is it is most expensive, around $300 for a similar product. Unless you know a cheaper way to get the 1.8 and 512 Ram on that?
 
I have the compaq Turion I just bought it today. Battery life is amazing. Over 3 hours of me transferring 17GB's of data from my PC to the lappy (network card and HDD always running, along with install of MS Office Professional with Frontpage (DVD running along with HDD), updating Norton, then installing 3Dmark03. I got to run 3Dmark03 to the eigth benchmark before the battery died. Impressive indeed.
 
In my opinion it is worth the extra money. What warranty does the M2000z have? 1 year? I assume you included wireless, DVD/CDRW, 12-cell?
The M2000z will have better battery life due to the 12-cell option.

The M2000z is incredibly cheap and I don't think you'll be disappointed with it, but the nx6125 gives you the most for your money IMO; just more money than the M2000z 😉
 
The only difference I truely see between the two as far as specifications is the hard drive being 5400rpm, which COULD be a big thing compared to the 4200rpm of the M2000Z. And then the obvious 3 year warranty versus the 1 year.

The problem with nx6125 is with a 1.8Ghz Turion it doesnt give me the option to have 512MB ram, only 1024 by one stick, which is jacking up the price. And comes standard with a 6 cell battery. I'll give HP a call and see what the difference is. Although Im not sure if $200 is worth the differences mentioned? If I am missing something more in this picture I would appreciate it if you could point it out. I just know desktops well 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Stokes
Thanks for your help.

I think we decided on the M2000Z

It was a good compromise for screen size and overall size of the laptop. Going with a 1.8 Turion and 512Ram and the true brite feature. Good choice?

With everything and a printer and a 60GB hard drive priced at $1008.97. Only drawback is the hard drive is 4200RPM, but for her, that won't really do much.

How are you getting that price? I configured the same system, and with the Deskjet 3845, it's $913.99 before the $100 of mail-in rebates.

If I were configuring that laptop, I'd get the Turion 1.6/1MB, BrightView, DVD/CD-RW, 12-cell battery, 2-year extended service and nothing else, which comes out to $868.99 before the $50 mail-in rebate. Upgrading RAM is really simple, and we're talking $25 delivered for another 256MB (or $45 for 512MB), so you'd be better off doing that yourself. I can't imagine that any of the bundled printers they're offering are ideal, either.

That's a really heavy laptop -- about 7 lbs. with the 12-cell battery. Also, like fbird said, a 15" screen is huge for something that only has 1024x768 resolution. It's not really a strong point unless you have pretty bad eyesight. Are you sure it's what you want? You should at least play around with one in a store first.

The M2000Z would be fine if you wanted to stick to an $800 budget and still get 2-years of warranty coverage, but if you're going to spend $1000 there are better laptops out there. You're getting a really cheap laptop and doubling the price with options, which isn't smart shopping.

Have you looked at the Lance Armstrong one? I don't like the idea of a laptop with bad grammar on it in bright yellow letters, but with all you're getting for $900, I could find a way to remove the "Live Strong" logo. If you weren't stuck on the Turion thing, you could get a $1000 Dell or Gateway with 3-years on-site. Not that I'm trying to push you away from AMD. If you want Nikes you'll get Nikes, whether or not everyone tells you there are better shoes for less -- which is the way it should be, seeing as you're the one who's stuck with them.

I guess I'm just not sure where you're coming from here. There aren't many excuses for getting a laptop without a 2 or 3-year warranty, even in the $1000 price range. Maybe if you just want something really cheap and are willing to accept that it is disposable, but in that case you should be able to come up with something closer to the $700-$800 range.

It might sound obnoxious that fbird is suggesting breaking your budget by $300 to go with the NX6125, but if you like the idea of a 15" XGA laptop and you're already going to spend $1000, it would be hard to justify not getting the better NX. You also need to realize that a Turion 1.8 just isn't going to be noticably faster than a Turion 1.6. Get a better laptop with a slower CPU. As soon as you look at the NX line, though, you also have to notice that the configurable model gives you an identical laptop with a Pentium M 1.6 starting at $999 with a 3-year warranty available for $119 and 3-year next-day on-site for $199.
 
I appreciate the advice and looking at the NX, I'm just having a hard time seeing whats the real difference between the two notebooks besides the 3 year warranty.

I did look at the lance armstrong one and that was one of the options as well. Although when I saw the M2000Z it kind of shot out at me because it had the 15". I have a Compaq Presario 2135US at home and its at 15" and the viewing screen size isnt bad. My girlfriend likes it as well and is a good compromise for size and weight as well as mobility.

I can get the NX down to over a $1,000 with these options:

1.6Ghz Turion (ML-30 w/ more cache i believe then the ML-28)
512MB 333Mhz DDR SDRAM (1 DIMM)
40GB Hard Drive (5400 rpm) (only other option is 80GB at 4200rpm)
15-inch TFT XGA Display
24X DVD/CDRW

this all comes priced to $1059

Note this also only have the 6 cell battery, suggestions?

Now if there truely is a better deal with intel M then just tell me and I'll look at them. I just wanted AMD, because I like to support them. I looked at Dell, except it seems like their options cost big $$$ and even though they give these nice coupons, you kill yourself getting the options you want.
 
This would be an awesome system for the price. You could eaisly pin mod it to 2.13ghz since it comes with the 1.6 400 fsb processor. Buy a gig of memory from newegg for ~$110 and not from dell. Expect at least 4 hours with the 9 cell.

Inspiron 6000
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Memory 256MB DDR2 SDRAM 1 Dimm
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Network Card Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
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Originally posted by: Stokes
I appreciate the advice and looking at the NX, I'm just having a hard time seeing whats the real difference between the two notebooks besides the 3 year warranty.
Well, the warranty is a pretty big deal. The NX is the business model which costs twice as much. The concern is that adding options to the M2000Z to make it a comparable laptop, you're still just getting a $529 laptop with a bunch of options, which still won't give you the quality of the better NX, but that's a pretty intangible thing to argue.

I'm not saying you shouldn't get the M2000Z. I'm just saying that if you do, that $1008.97 figure certainly seems like you're spending too much on it.


I did look at the lance armstrong one and that was one of the options as well. Although when I saw the M2000Z it kind of shot out at me because it had the 15". I have a Compaq Presario 2135US at home and its at 15" and the viewing screen size isnt bad. My girlfriend likes it as well and is a good compromise for size and weight as well as mobility.
The 14" Lance Armstrong model actually has higher resolution than the 15" M2000Z, so it all depends on what you're looking for.


I can get the NX down to over a $1,000 with these options:

1.6Ghz Turion (ML-30 w/ more cache i believe then the ML-28)
512MB 333Mhz DDR SDRAM (1 DIMM)
40GB Hard Drive (5400 rpm) (only other option is 80GB at 4200rpm)
15-inch TFT XGA Display
24X DVD/CDRW

this all comes priced to $1059

Note this also only have the 6 cell battery, suggestions?

Now if there truely is a better deal with intel M then just tell me and I'll look at them. I just wanted AMD, because I like to support them. I looked at Dell, except it seems like their options cost big $$$ and even though they give these nice coupons, you kill yourself getting the options you want.


That looks like a good deal to me. The big battery is only an 8-cell. I doubt you'd get much more than 2.5 hours of it. Being able to get the 12-cell for $25 is a strong point of the M2000Z, but it will make it bigger/heavier, so again I'd suggest looking at one in person before you order it. If battery life is a big concern, I would suggest the Pentium M.

There are two other current threads on $1000 laptops, so there's not much point in me rehashing that, but I suppose I'll quote myself:

There's still a $600 off $1499 Inspirion coupon that's good until Thursday morning 5:59am CST.

I'd just get the basic 600M, add the premium 4-year warranty, 1x512MB DIMM, 80GB hard drive, modular battery and bluetooth, which takes it up to $1514

So for $914 + tax you get a 14.1" XGA laptop that's pretty similar to what you're looking at, except it's thinner, lighter, lasts 7 hours with the modular battery, and has 4-year on-site and accidental damage coverage.
 
I guess the Inspirion 6000 that ramit mentioned would be better since you already seem to be looking at big/heavy laptops (although I'd look at a Dell kiosk in a mall to make sure). I certainly don't agree with the configuration, though. He's suggesting the model with discrete graphics, but you said you're not going to be gaming (so all that'll do is hurt battery life). He's suggesting the 1680x1050 WSXGA+ screen (129 DPI), but you're looking at a 15" laptop with a 1024x768 XGA screen (85 DPI), so you'd almost certainly want the cheaper 1280x768 WXGA screen (97 DPI) if you got the Inspirion 6000. With the money you save on those, you could get a much better warranty.

I'd pick the mid-range model and select:

- Pentium M 725 (arguably the 533 FSB model isn't any better -- it's the same speed with slightly worse battery life)
- 4-year Premium Solution Package
- 512MB 1 DIMM (just so you can upgrade memory later without throwing away what you've got)
- additional 9-cell battery (so you get 2 batteries, only $23 more than just upgrading to a single 9-cell)

Then I'd get either Bluetooth or the 80GB hard drive upgrade to push it over $1500 ... or the 1680x1050 WSXGA+ screen, which is certainly what I would get, but it doesn't sound like something you'd like.

I'm not trying to push huge warranties on you. If you think there are more important upgrades than 4-year on-site service, feel free to get what you want.
 
Hmm.. I'll give dell a look, I guess i'm just really hooked on the AMD idea and trying to make it work. I can get the M2000Z with 1.6, 60GB, bluetooth, 12 Cell battery. and all the good options and extended 2 year warranty for $889 or so. Even less now that I just signed up for student discount. But it doesnt have the firewire connection she wants, but we can get the usb hook-up for that ipod, and then it doesn't have the better screen picture only being 15.0" TFT XGA BrightView (1024x768). Do I think resolution is a big deal for her? nope, she doesn't need a huge viewing area and that would suite her fine, but I have a feeling the SXGA would be a lot better.

Still, the hard drive on that is only 4200rpm which I am thinking will be a big deal
 
Im just torn at what to do. $1500 is too much I think for her laptop. That one is also slightly bigger then we want. 15" was a good compromise I thought.

Basically I can get what I listed with the nx6125:

1.6Ghz Turion (ML-30 w/ more cache i believe then the ML-28)
512MB 333Mhz DDR SDRAM (1 DIMM)
40GB Hard Drive (5400 rpm) (only other option is 80GB at 4200rpm)
15-inch TFT XGA Display
24X DVD/CDRW

It comes with the three year warranty which is nice, but the 15" doesnt come with BriteView which seems to be a really nice feature. Other then that, is that the best option w/ AMD?

BTW, if you think i'm going in the wrong direction going with AMD and this build for her and college then just tell me BUY AN INTEL PROCESSOR!!! I like the build above for her since it includes everything, bluetooth, wireless, all that good stuff at only $1059.
 
Wow, I missed a lot of discussions here 😉 A lot has been said, so let me just summarize my recommendations based on what has been said here:

First, go into a retail store like BBY and check out a 15" XGA laptop (they have some HP's and gateway's with 15" XGA 1024x768). It is exactly like using a 15" CRT, as they had 1024x768. I personally HATE it. There's no room to view web pages, you're constantly scrolling, can't have more than 1 window in view at a time. A 14" XGA is a little better, but still sucks.
Also, at BBY there should be an HP dv1000 with the 14" WXGA screen @ 1280x768. The 14" widescreens have more pixels in a small physical space than a 15" XGA, giving you a higher resolution. My gf has a dv1000 and I actually don't mind using it. It has decent desktop real estate. You do have to scroll vertically more since it is a widescreen, but you can have several windows open at once and not feel like everything is extraordinarily cluttered.
I highly recommend checking out the screens before you buy.

The Brightview option isn't something I would say is a necessity. It does help with brightness and viewing in bright areas/sunlight, but of course comes with increased glare. Using a BrightView screen is like watching a glass TV in a room with bright lights; eventually you get used to the glare and train your eyes to focus through the glare and see the screen itself. This is not a big adjustment.

Now, as to the choice between the M2000z, the nx6125, and the Dell 6000.
First, the Dell 6000 is in a different category. It is larger and heavier, but not so horribly large that you won't be able to carry it. I got to set one of these up and was surprised at how thin it was for a 15.4". That said, I don't recommend it for portable use. A 14" widescreen is a MUCH better choice.

I have personally eliminated the Dell 6000 so I will focus on the HP models.

The M2000z does come out to a decent price, no doubt. But again, you have the 15" XGA issue. I hate it and wouldn't recommend it, but see for yourself. Also, HP's bottom line models (which are the M2000's right now) tend to not have as good build quality as the mid to high end ones. I know this because my gf had an HP ze4000(?) about 3 years ago. It was great for the money, but clearly did not have the build quality of higher end models. She too was okay with the 15" XGA, but since she has seen my 15" SXGA+ and using her new 14" WXGA dv1000 says she don't know how she stood the low resolution (Yes, she used the proper terms and everything, she's not an idiot when it comes to computers 😉).

You repeatedly asked what the nx6125 brings to the table besides the 3 year warranty. Here is a list for you:

*3 year warranty, with BUSINESS level support. This is VERY different from consumer level support. I don't know if HP's business support is outsourced as well, but generally you have faster phone answer times, faster turn-around times on repairs & part replacements, and overall better quality support.
*Integrated biometric security & bluetooh; this may not be a big deal to you, but is something the nx6125 offers; weigh this in importantance to you
*better build quality; I will be reviewing an nx6125 at some point, but I have heard from numerous other people that the build quality on the HP business notebooks is awesome; and personally I think the HP consumer notebooks are great build quality for the money, so the business line should be excellent
*15" SXGA+ option; this is a biggie in my opinion, but will drive the cost of the machine up.

I have personally eliminated the M2000z from this list due to my reasons above, so I will now discuss the nx6125 & an L2000/V2000z.

The nx6125 does offer better build quality and a 3 year warranty over the L2000/V2000z. To me the deal breaker is the 15" SXGA+ screen, which would be awesome. Here is the base config & price for a 15" SXGA+ nx6125:

HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6125
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
AMD Turion? 64 ML-34 (1.8GHz) processor
1024MB 333MHz DDR SDRAM (1 DIMM)
60GB hard drive (5400 rpm)
15-inch SXGA+ display
DVD +/- RW Drive (fixed)
56K High speed modem
10/100/1000 NIC
Broadcom 802.11a/b/g
Integrated Bluetooth
6 cell Li-Ion battery
Touchpad with Scroll Zone
3 year standard parts and labor
Li-Ion 8-Cell Common Travel Battery

$1528

To me, that is an INCREDIBLE machine for the money. Top notch build quality, 3 year warranty, biometric security, 15" SXGA+, 1GB RAM, 6-cell & 8-cell battery, THE WORKS. You have an open DIMM slot for more RAM later, a 5400RPM drive out of the box, etc. I just can't stress how good this is. If you have the money, GET THIS. However, I understand price is always a factor 😉 Here is a reasonable L2000 configuration:

Operating System Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Home Edition with SP2 edit
Processor AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-28 (1.6GHz/512KB L2 Cache) edit
Display 14.0 WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x768) edit
Graphics Card ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/productivity ports edit
Memory 512MB DDR SDRAM (2x256MB) edit
Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive edit
Primary CD/DVD Drive DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive edit
Networking 54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth edit
Primary Battery 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery edit
Productivity Software Microsoft(R) Works/Money edit
HP extended service plans 2-year HP Express Repair extended service plan

$1067.99

That is also a great machine. The only thing it might be lacking for your needs is a DVDRW, which can be added for $50. If you have room in your budget at this price, upgrade the CPU or save money to add more RAM yourself. The 2x256 config does suck, it actually would be worth it to spend the extra $25 to upgrade to 1x512. Then you don't throw away a memory stick upgrading. Now, if the Livestrong graffiti isn't your thing, let's look at a Compaq V2000z

Operating System Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Home Edition with SP2 edit
Processor AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-28 (1.6GHz/512KB L2 Cache) edit
Display 14.0 WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x768) edit
Graphics Card ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M w/productivity ports edit
Memory 256MB DDR SDRAM (1x256MB) edit
Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive edit
Primary CD/DVD Drive DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive edit
Networking 54g(TM) 802.11b/g WLAN w/ 125HSM/SpeedBooster(TM) edit
Primary Battery 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery edit
Productivity Software Microsoft(R) Works/Money edit
HP extended service plans 2-year HP Express Repair extended service plan edit

$1023.99

This is very comparable to the L2000. Again, you can spend $50 to get a DVDRW and another $50 to get 1x512MB. Yes, you could spend $45 on NewEgg and get 1x512 yourself to have 768 total. Keep in mind again you will have to dump that 1x256 if you want to upgrade memory later. For an idea, the Compaq V2000z should look JUST like the V2000 we reviewed here.

One thing that may or may not matter to you is that for every purchase of an L2000, HP donates $50 to Lance Armstrong's Cancer Foundation. A worthy cause IMO, but to each his own.

nx6125 Advantages: 3 year warranty, build quality, SXGA+, fingerprint scanner, bluetooth, DVDRW
nx6125 Disadvantage: Heavier, less portable, more expensive

HP L2000 Advant: Most bang for your buck, 12-cell battery, benefit worthy cause
HP L2000 Disadvant: Livestrong writing all over it, a tad more expensive than the V2000z

Compaq V2000z Advant: Cheapest out of all three
Compaq V2000z Disadvant: 1x256MB

I hope this helps clear things up for you. These are all based on my opinions of the systems.

If it were me, I would buy the nx6125. But that is why I own a Thinkpad, I like the high quality top-notch stuff. From your perspective, I think the L2000 or M2000z is the way to go. They give you a great machine that is still portable for around $1000, WITH a 2 year warranty and 6+ hours of battery life.
 
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