Tupac murder case getting some attention now

[sdifox]

A search warrant has been issued related to Tupac's murder. 1996 case, I am not holding my breath.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/shakur-investigation-1.6910773

 

[Pens1566]

How can there be a murder when he's still alive?

/s

 

[cytg111]

How is your privacy policies there? Can law enforcement access data from companies like 23 and me without court order? Cause that has the potential to solve ALOT of cold cases, old cases, as the perps genetic code branches out.

 

[sdifox]

How is your privacy policies there? Can law enforcement access data from companies like 23 and me without court order? Cause that has the potential to solve ALOT of cold cases, old cases, as the perps genetic code branches out.

I am sure somewhere in the fine print says the company can do whatever it wants with it since they own it now.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Sad that Pac got so heavily involved in the LA gang scene after hooking up with Suge Knight on Death Row and it cost him his life after he and Suge beat down a Crip that Biggie had hired for security in a Las Vegas casino. Then a few months later a couple of Blood cops down with Suge and from the Rampart division did the hit on Biggie in Hollywood.

 

[BoomerD]

Sad that Pac got so heavily involved in the LA gang scene after hooking up with Suge Knight on Death Row and it cost him his life after he and Suge beat down a Crip that Biggie had hired for security in a Las Vegas casino. Then a few months later a couple of Blood cops down with Suge and from the Rampart division did the hit on Biggie in Hollywood.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Sounds like a win-win to me.

That Rampart division of LAPD that did the hit on Biggie was so corrupt the city of Los Angeles literally had to throw out every conviction involving Rampart for years. The movie Training Day was based on Rafael Perez who was a Blood in LAPD's Rampart division who very likely killed Biggie.

 

[Vic]

How is your privacy policies there? Can law enforcement access data from companies like 23 and me without court order? Cause that has the potential to solve ALOT of cold cases, old cases, as the perps genetic code branches out.

Ah.. but they don't need a court order when a family member is willing to provide their DNA and establish a familial match.

 

[Zeze]

Isn't it pretty much known that it's Suge?

 

[cytg111]

Ah.. but they don't need a court order when a family member is willing to provide their DNA and establish a familial match.

Exactly. And when they’re getting better and better at picking up DNA traces and more and more people are directly or INDIRECTLY recorded via these services (or even via a doctor), its moving towards a surveillance scenario I am not sure I like.

 

[mikeymikec]

Sad that Pac got so heavily involved in the LA gang scene after hooking up with Suge Knight on Death Row and it cost him his life after he and Suge beat down a Crip that Biggie had hired for security in a Las Vegas casino. Then a few months later a couple of Blood cops down with Suge and from the Rampart division did the hit on Biggie in Hollywood.

I feel like a very, very white middle-aged parent feeling out of touch with the lingo right now.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I feel like a very, very white middle-aged parent feeling out of touch with the lingo right now.

Really? Not much slang there. When I say Blood cops I literally meant LAPD officers who were part of the Bloods gang.

 

[cytg111]

Really? Not much slang there. When I say Blood cops I literally meant LAPD officers who were part of the Bloods gang.

Yea but if you dont know, then wtf is Suge Knight ... I mean I get it. I was into that scene back when, so I know. I can see how anyone else might be *wooosh*.

 

[Pens1566]

Sad that Pac got so heavily involved in the LA gang scene after hooking up with Suge Knight on Death Row and it cost him his life after he and Suge beat down a Crip that Biggie had hired for security in a Las Vegas casino. Then a few months later a couple of Blood cops down with Suge and from the Rampart division did the hit on Biggie in Hollywood.

Awkward considering Snoop was rumored to be a Crip.

 

[mikeymikec]

Really? Not much slang there. When I say Blood cops I literally meant LAPD officers who were part of the Bloods gang.

"Death Row" is going to be something other than US inmates facing execution I guess.
Suge?
Biggie I think is Notorious BIG. He owned a casino?
Blood cops - your explanation is what I would have thought except I would have thought that known gang members could not be cops.
Rampart?

 

[Leeea]

except I would have thought that known gang members could not be cops.

I would like to introduce you to the LA Sheriff's department.

Gang Members Hold Positions at 'Highest Levels' of LA Sheriff's Department, Investigation Reveals

The former sheriff “tolerated, if not rewarded” deputy gangs, according to the report

www.rollingstone.com

List of LASD deputy gangs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Pens1566]

"Death Row" is going to be something other than US inmates facing execution I guess.
Suge?
Biggie I think is Notorious BIG. He owned a casino?
Blood cops - your explanation is what I would have thought except I would have thought that known gang members could not be cops.
Rampart?

Suge Knight was the founder/CEO/whatever of Death Row Records recording label.

Rampart is an LA police district/precinct.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Awkward considering Snoop was rumored to be a Crip.

Yeah Snoop was from Rolling 20s Crips which is why you'd always see him in Pittsburgh Steelers gear back in the 90s. Rolling 20s in Long Beach all wore Steelers gear like the Eight Trays wore Texas Rangers and Hoover Criminals wore Houston Astros, different Piru Blood sets wore Pittsburgh Pirates, and so on. Can't remember if Rolling 60s had any specific team's gear they sported.

Here's Snoop claiming Rolling 20s in this unreleased song from before he got famous:

Though honestly the Crip vs Blood aspect might be kind of overblown since different Crip sets hate each other. For instance Rolling 60s and Eight Tray Gangsters are both Crip sets but have been at war for decades. Hell even in San Antonio I had a friend I went to school with who didn't claim anything but hung out with some Crips who was murdered by another Crip because this guy's idiot friend threw up the sign for his neighborhood while in the shooter's neighborhood. Crips will kill Crips just as quickly as they'll kill Bloods.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

"Death Row" is going to be something other than US inmates facing execution I guess.
Suge?
Biggie I think is Notorious BIG. He owned a casino?
Blood cops - your explanation is what I would have thought except I would have thought that known gang members could not be cops.
Rampart?

Death Row - Death Row Records, the biggest hip hop record label in the early to mid 1990s that had Dr Dre, 2Pac, and Snoop Dogg


Suge - Suge Knight, the Blood who co-founded Death Row Records with Dr Dre. An extremely nasty guy who played in the NFL and then worked security for NWA who Dr Dre then used to get himself out of NWA. He's such a piece of s--- that when Dr Dre left Death Row Records he left Suge the entire company Dre had built because he didn't want to be murdered over leaving the label. Suge also claims to have injected Eazy E (another member of NWA) with blood from a crackhead; Eazy E died of AIDS in 1995. The injection story isn't generally believed to be true but Suge claims it. When Snoop Dogg left Death Row Records Suge threatened his life, releasing a garbage compilation album of unused Snoop recordings, calling the album called Dead Man Walking. Suge is currently in prison for murder from when he ran a guy down with his car at the filming of Straight Outta Compton, a movie about the history of NWA and Death Row Records that he didn't like and which portrays him pretty badly (and accurately). Excellent film BTW.


Notorious BIG was a gifted rapper from Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn. He and 2Pac were good friends who had recorded together until 2Pac banged Biggie's girlfriend. Then they had a bitter feud for years that escalated into the murders of both of them. Since Death Row Records was run by Suge Knight (a Blood) and Biggie and Death Row hated each other, Biggie hired Crips for his security. When 2Pac and Suge were in Las Vegas for a Mike Tyson fight they ran into one of the Crips from Biggie's security team in a casino and beat the crap out of him right there in the middle of the casino. It's widely thought that guy who got beat down as well as other members of his gang were responsible for the drive by shooting that killed Tupac and wounded Suge. Suge took revenge on Biggie a few months later when BIGwas in LA for the Soul Train Awards, where Rafael Perez, a Blood in the LAPD Rampart division, killed Biggie.


Rampart - The Rampart Division of LAPD had the biggest police scandal ever uncovered in the US. The Rampart division had been infiltrated by members of the Bloods who would sell drugs, do gang hits, frame and arrest rival gangs, rob banks, all kinds of craziness. Denzel Washington's character in Training Day was loosely based on Rafael Perez, one of these LAPD Bloods close to Suge Knight who is believed to be the killer of Notorious BIG as I posted above. As was Samuel Jackson's character in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. PBS Frontline had an amazing documentary called LAPD Blues about the Rampart scandal which broke after a black gangbanger flashed gang signs and then pulled a gun on a white cop in a case of road rage and white cop shot him in self defense, only to find out that black gangbanger was part of the LAPD.

 

[hal2kilo]

Exactly. And when they’re getting better and better at picking up DNA traces and more and more people are directly or INDIRECTLY recorded via these services (or even via a doctor), its moving towards a surveillance scenario I am not sure I like.

Easy, don't crime.

 

[cytg111]

Easy, don't crime.

Imagine a society with this tech ruled by Putin.

It makes the 2nd irrelevant.

Privacy is like Freedom of speech, you willing to give up your freedom of speech cause you got nothing to say today?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Easy, don't crime.

Do I really need to link this here, on this forum?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Do I really need to link this here, on this forum?

Get up git down

 

[Meghan54]

"Death Row" is going to be something other than US inmates facing execution I guess.
Suge?
Biggie I think is Notorious BIG. He owned a casino?
Blood cops - your explanation is what I would have thought except I would have thought that known gang members could not be cops.
Rampart?

Rampart? Doesn’t ring any bell for you?

Never watched Adam-12? Rampart division?

But maybe I’m a bit more in tune with such as I’m only around 70 years old.

 

[mikeymikec]

Rampart? Doesn’t ring any bell for you?

Never watched Adam-12? Rampart division?

But maybe I’m a bit more in tune with such as I’m only around 70 years old.

Nope, nope, nope! Maybe Adam-12 was never aired in the UK? Steve later mentioned that Death Row was referring to a record label, I had heard of it but nothing more.