Tucker Carlson is openly siding with Russia over Ukraine

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Tucker Carlson is siding with Russia over Ukraine, the nation state Russia wants to attack and take over. He apparently prefers dictators over the rights of sovereign nations to live in freedom and prosperity.

He attempts to "both sides it: completely ignoring the fact that Russia is the CLEAR aggressor here.

WTAF???


 

tweaker2

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Sowing divisiveness, suspicion and distrust in gov't, in this case specifically the Biden administration, is the end game for the Repubs with Tucker at FOX and idiots like Greene, who doesn't have much more to lose at this point in time being their typical attack dogs. Does it matter to them that exploiting the Ukraine situation to foment loss of confidence in the Biden admin. while possibly severely endangering the nation's security with their malfeasance?

Apparently not. GG Repubs in Congress, party and profits for your donor class looks to be more important than national security it seems. Is spreading the wealth of the nation equitably to all of it's peoples such a bad thing that you would seriously endanger the nation itself to prevent that from happening? It sure looks like it.
 

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Sowing divisiveness, suspicion and distrust in gov't, in this case specifically the Biden administration, is the end game for the Repubs with Tucker at FOX and idiots like Greene, who doesn't have much more to lose at this point in time being their typical attack dogs. Does it matter to them that exploiting the Ukraine situation to foment loss of confidence in the Biden admin. while possibly severely endangering the nation's security with their malfeasance?

Apparently not. GG Repubs in Congress, party and profits for your donor class looks to be more important than national security it seems. Is spreading the wealth of the nation equitably to all of it's peoples such a bad thing that you would seriously endanger the nation itself to prevent that from happening? It sure looks like it.
I mean it's a simple, time tested playbook.

Sow chaos, distrust in government.

Then claim "only I can fix it" via whatever means necessary.

Then comes the punishment part. Never forget what that Trump voter said a few years ago, "He's not hurting the right people." Or more recently, "when can we use the guns?"

When they tell you who they are, believe them. I bet by 2028 we will have candidates openly calling for jailing or executing not their liberal political opponents, but their voters instead.
 

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sportage

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So whats new?
FYI, the Trumpies have also sided with other communist countries.... CHINA.
Yes, with China.
The same China that Trump claimed to hate, that same China who wear masks that Trumpies claim to hate, yet now Trumpies love China enough to treat the covid infections within republican controlled states just as China treated covid over in China.

Reasoning?
Originally we had China hiding from the world what they knew and discovered about covid. Way before the world had ever heard of covid. When the doctors and medical researchers over in China realized something covid was going on, and it was very likely to become a really bad thing, the Chinese government punished those doctors and researchers and stopped that information from being released. Those Chinese wanted to squelch the truth from the world.

Flash forward to republicans of today, and more so republican controlled states of today where just like with China, these republican controlled states also try to hide the truth about covid. Republican governors want to fudge the data and pretend that covid just doesn't exist. So where did those republican governors get this game plan from? From China.....
The very same China that republican Trumpies claim to hate so much, but they really love and obviously LOVE A LOT. Enough love to copy the Chinese playbook word for word and play by play concerning covid. Republican governors do as China officials did, that Communist controlled China government did, republican governors also hide, lie, fudge, deny, and put people at risk exactly as China put the world at risk.

Oh those commie loving trumpies. Republican trumpies. Republican governors. That commie Fox News organization. Oh how they love their dictators and their commie lovin leaders. In the old days the commies were referred to as reds. Today, our commie lovin republicans can be referred to as.... oranges.

Get it?
Commie = reds.
Commie trumpies = oranges. Donald Trump is the head orangie.
 
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Mr. Malinowski, you need to make it a chant so the real americans can understand it.
 

senseamp

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How are the media and US politicians going to walk back their hysteria when nothing happens?
Remember how Afghanistan was supposed to be big disaster, then after we left, everything is quiet over there? All these years of fighting the Taliban, thousands of American dead, trillions wasted, and it turns out Taliban is delivering the peace and stability our allies there never could. We don't understand other countries, whip ourselves up into hysteria, start stupid wars, pay for them with blood and treasure, and then find out it was either for nothing or counterproductive. We need to break the cycle of stupidity and be more cynical.
 

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How are the media and US politicians going to walk back their hysteria when nothing happens?
Remember how Afghanistan was supposed to be big disaster, then after we left, everything is quiet over there? All these years of fighting the Taliban, thousands of American dead, trillions wasted, and it turns out Taliban is delivering the peace and stability our allies there never could. We don't understand other countries, whip ourselves up into hysteria, start stupid wars, pay for them with blood and treasure, and then find out it was either for nothing or counterproductive. We need to break the cycle of stupidity and be more cynical.
Economic collapse, suppressing half your population and the brink of starvation is peace and stability?
 
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How are the media and US politicians going to walk back their hysteria when nothing happens?
Remember how Afghanistan was supposed to be big disaster, then after we left, everything is quiet over there? All these years of fighting the Taliban, thousands of American dead, trillions wasted, and it turns out Taliban is delivering the peace and stability our allies there never could. We don't understand other countries, whip ourselves up into hysteria, start stupid wars, pay for them with blood and treasure, and then find out it was either for nothing or counterproductive. We need to break the cycle of stupidity and be more cynical.
Economic collapse, suppressing half your population and the brink of starvation is peace and stability?
This.

What the fuck, senseamp? Sure, its all fine if you stick your head in the sand (or up your ass) and ignore it.

Even more baffling is...Russia already invaded Ukraine, and have had an active invasion force there for years. Can you explain how you think an invasion isn't going to happen when it already started and has been ongoing?
 
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The Russians killed millions in Ukraine in the 1930’s and repopulated with their own. The Russification continued after WWII. This is also a war between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Yes, this is a religious war again in Europe. Ukraine does not want to Part of Russian anymore than Denmark being part of Germany. Do not believe appeasing Putin will stop his expansion. What would be next? Romania.
 
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senseamp

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This.

What the fuck, senseamp? Sure, its all fine if you stick your head in the sand (or up your ass) and ignore it.

Even more baffling is...Russia already invaded Ukraine, and have had an active invasion force there for years. Can you explain how you think an invasion isn't going to happen when it already started and has been ongoing?
Nothing is going to happen, status quo works for Russia. If Ukraine tries to retake separatist areas by force, it'll get smacked like Georgia did, but even then, Russia restored status quo and left, even though it could have taken all of Georgia in a day. Russia just wants separatist regions in neighboring countries so NATO doesn't want to touch them.
 

senseamp

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The Russians killed millions in Ukraine in the 1930’s and repopulated with their own. The Russification continued after WWII. This is also a war between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Yes, this is a religious war again in Europe. Ukraine does not want to Part of Russian anymore than Denmark being part of Germany. Do not believe appeasing Putin will stop his expansion. What would be next? Romania.
Most Ukrainians are Orthodox dude, learn some history before commenting. Cheers.
 

senseamp

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Where's the Catholic contingent?
In the very western part, there is some. But historically Orthodox Ukrainians (Russians at the time) were fighting Catholic Poland.
 
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Where's the Catholic contingent?
Like most of what I hear from you but do you know the Uniate Church not orthodox but answer to Rome one of the few catholic branches with married priests.
Where's the Catholic contingent?
I bow to thee.
Uniate Church does count the Orthodox are a Russian influence. Uniate look orthodox but answer to Rome.
 

hal2kilo

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Like most of what I hear from you but do you know the Uniate Church not orthodox but answer to Rome one of the few catholic branches with married priests.

I bow to thee.
Uniate Church does count the Orthodox are a Russian influence. Uniate look orthodox but answer to Rome.
Learn something everyday for the win. Not just a Ukrainian thing either.
 

Leymenaide

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Like most of what I hear from you but do you know the Uniate Church not orthodox but answer to Rome one of the few catholic branches with married priests.

I bow to thee.
Uniate Church does count the Orthodox are a Russian influence. Uniate look orthodox but answer to Rome.

5 million Uniate are not chopped liver. Russians are still trying to force conversions.
Membership of Uniate Churches
Rites And ChurchesMembersBishops
Alexandrian
Coptic197,0007
Ethiopian203,0005
Antiochene
Malankar327,0004
Maronite3,220,00042
Syrian138,00015
Byzantine
Byelorussian5,0001
Bulgarian15,0001
Greek2,3452
Hungarian282,0001
Italo-Albanian64,0003
Melkite1,284,00028
Romanian1,119,0006
Ruthenian533,0007
Slovak222,0001
Ukrainian5,160,00027
Yugoslav49,0003
 

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