[TT]AMD's GPU market share drops again, even after the release of Fury X

[ShintaiDK]

I would say that whoever wins the $100 to $350 market would make lots of profits the next quarters.

That part is already settled way into 2016. And its nVidia.

 

[tviceman]

So by the same logic, people will start purchasing $330 R9 390 for DX-12 games instead of those $650 GTX980Ti then

LOLz at your DX12 comparison. When games actually start shipping, lets compare then. If AMD wins, great for AMD. Time and time again AMD promises a hype train that goes up in billows of smoke, or it's biggest fans create too much hype that can't possibly deliver. Nvidia apparently needs work on DX12, but it could also be isolated to that pre-alpha game.

Right now, though, the R9 390 and GTX 970 trade blows between 1080p and 1440p, but the cheapest GTX 970 is $30 less (and comes with a free AAA game) than the cheapest R9 390. AMD's bigger, hotter, power hungry dies are hurting their bottom line and with R&D drying up faster than lakes, it's a spiral that is going to take a miracle to straighten out.

 

[Abwx]

LOLz at your DX12 comparison. When games actually start shipping, lets compare then. If AMD wins, great for AMD. Time and time again AMD promises a hype train that goes up in billows of smoke, or it's biggest fans create too much hype that can't possibly deliver. Nvidia apparently needs work on DX12, but it could also be isolated to that pre-alpha game.

Right now, though, the R9 390 and GTX 970 trade blows between 1080p and 1440p, but the cheapest GTX 970 is $30 less (and comes with a free AAA game) than the cheapest R9 390. AMD's bigger, hotter, power hungry dies are hurting their bottom line and with R&D drying up faster than lakes, it's a spiral that is going to take a miracle to straighten out.

Like the 290 and 780 were trading blows, isnt it.

Reality is that AMD has been more future proof, and that s what those DX12 tests show for the coming time.

Indeed you were prompt to dismiss the results, not sure that you would had said the same if the tables were turned in thoses tests, heck, i thought it was a forum for enthusiasts...

 

[Glo.]

R9 370X. Have you heard of it?

http://wccftech.com/sapphire-radeon...50-mhz-surprising-dual-crossfirex-connectors/

 

[Red Hawk]

R9 370X. Have you heard of it?

http://wccftech.com/sapphire-radeon...50-mhz-surprising-dual-crossfirex-connectors/

This is another rebadge of Pitcairn XT, a 3 year old GCN 1.0 part...not surprising or game changing in any way. In fact the 370 cards are probably the weakest part of the Radeon 300 lineup, because they're the only ones still stuck on GCN 1.0 and therefore less efficient and only supporting DirectX feature level 11.1 rather than 12.0.

 

[Glo.]

Does not look like a rebadge. Core count may be the same, but its probably the same new process from TSMC that AMD talked a bit few weeks ago.

Either way, almost 50W less of power consumption with much higher core clock would not came from nowhere.

Of course, it will not be miraculous chip from AMD. But saying already what will happen in 2016 is...

 

[Red Hawk]

Does not look like a rebadge. Core count may be the same, but its probably the same new process from TSMC that AMD talked a bit few weeks ago.

Either way, almost 50W less of power consumption with much higher core clock would not came from nowhere.

Of course, it will not be miraculous chip from AMD. But saying already what will happen in 2016 is...

Ok, it might be on a new process. But it's still the old GCN 1.0 design, very outdated at this point. It's not a good contender against Maxwell 2 parts from Nvidia.

 

[Glo.]

Either way, it should be faster than GTX 950 .

 

[Red Hawk]

Either way, it should be faster than GTX 950 .

Possibly, we won't know until reviews come out. Whether or not the 950 beats the 370X in performance, it will most certainly beat it at perf/watt. And I would bet on a 950 Ti beating the 370X at performance.

 

[Leyawiin]

Either way, it should be faster than GTX 950 .

Which means little to nothing in the market place time and time again (if that turns out to be the case).

 

[thesmokingman]

sorry but nvidia aint that big. Intel however, is massive.

Ain't that big? Nvidia's budget dwarfs AMD.

 

[Red Hawk]

Nvidia and AMD are both playing in the kiddie pool compared to Intel.

 

[tviceman]

Like the 290 and 780 were trading blows, isnt it.

I'm not naive to see that Nvidia's support for discontinued products is primarily to keep those products working, while placing emphasis of optimizations on current selling products. Unfortunate and frustrating as it is, it's the nature of the beast. In fact, the same thing happened between the HD5870 and the GTX 480. When AMD released barts and cayman, the performance of their previous year's chips (cypress, etc.) performance seemingly started tanking vs. their respective competition. WEIRD I know, but again, that's the nature of the beast.

Reality is that AMD has been more future proof, and that s what those DX12 tests show for the coming time.

That is not reality but keep shouting that as loud as possible and to as many people as possible. We all need AMD to stay in the game and make a comeback of sorts.

Indeed you were prompt to dismiss the results, not sure that you would had said the same if the tables were turned in thoses tests, heck, i thought it was a forum for enthusiasts...

It's amusing when you (or anyone else) tries to level PC master race insults because it looks really, really immature and it just makes me feel sorry for the isolated life you project to be living. Anyways, again when DX12 games are here lets have a conversation about performance. Until then, the AMD hype train fooled us all time and again, but not me. Not this time.

 

[5150Joker]

More likely GTX 960, GTX970 and a smaller part of GTX 980. Titan X and GTX 980Ti market is tooooo small to have a substantial impact. Not to mention the extremely large die size of GM200. NV makes tones of money from $200 GTX 960 (228mm2) and $330 GTX 970 (398mm2) because of the huge volume of sales.

I would say that whoever wins the $100 to $350 market would make lots of profits the next quarters.

Yes that's true, the 970 has been a huge money maker. I haven't seen any stats on 960 but I'm sure that's done well too.

 

[shady28]

More likely GTX 960, GTX970 and a smaller part of GTX 980...
I would say that whoever wins the $100 to $350 market would make lots of profits the next quarters.

According to Steam - Top fastest growing discrete GPUs used on steam (and these have held #1 / #2 fastest growing spot for several months) :

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 3.92% +0.47%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 1.39% +0.31%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2.14% +0.16%

The 740 shows up as +0.31%, but that's because it just emerged from their "other" category. Anything < 0.3% gets subsumed into "other".

Noting that 0.3% is the barrier to a card being listed - there is no individual ranking for the 980, 980 Ti, or any Fury.

That 3.92% of steam users for the 970 is 2nd only to the integrated Intel HD 4000.

Unrelated but interesting - the change in number of users with 4K as their primary display was flat, holding at 0.07%. It does not look like 4K is going anywhere anytime soon on PC.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

 

[DeathReborn]

I just don't understand how this one company AMD is meant to be able to compete with two behemoths like Intel on CPU's and Nvidia on GPU's.

AMD asked to compete with both when they bought ATI. They only have themselves to blame really.

 

[SolMiester]

NV has a huge professional and compute user base as well as gaming......I dont see any problems long term..

 

[ocre]

This is completely disturbing.
18% marketshare!!!

It's shocking. Go back just 1yr ago and it was a 40/60 split. It's like they fell off a cliff. This is bad. I can't see how this one can be down played

 

[Silverforce11]

Was 20% at the last one. Maxwell 2 vs hot, noisy & hungry 280/290/X. It dropped like a brick from 37% onto 40% (after R290/X vs 780/Ti) once the 970/980 and 960 launched.

NV reportedly sold millions of 970 in a few months, so the mantra that low-end moves marketshare is no longer true.

Low end is crap (with iGPU encroachment), gamers demand mid-range or above.

We'll see next quarter, because the 300 series has been received very well by the press, amazing what Tonga & Hawaii can do with a better cooler!

 

[yacoub]

Q2 data.

Also, they don't even have enough production volume to keep Furies in stock, meanwhile NVidia is selling tons of 980 Tis. No surprise if there's a fluctuation toward to Nvidia in marketshare.

 

[5150Joker]

Was 20% at the last one. Maxwell 2 vs hot, noisy & hungry 280/290/X. It dropped like a brick from 37% onto 40% (after R290/X vs 780/Ti) once the 970/980 and 960 launched.

NV reportedly sold millions of 970 in a few months, so the mantra that low-end moves marketshare is no longer true.

Low end is crap (with iGPU encroachment), gamers demand mid-range or above.

We'll see next quarter, because the 300 series has been received very well by the press, amazing what Tonga & Hawaii can do with a better cooler!

You can't be serious? I'd hope consumers aren't stupid enough to buy rebrands. I'm betting AMD won't see any marketshare gains with those rebrands. NVIDIA will likely keep eating into their share until the next gen stuff on 16nm is released.

 

[Silverforce11]

You can't be serious? I'd hope consumers aren't stupid enough to buy rebrands.

You can hope.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I don't get it why a strong company doesn't buy AMD now. This is the time to buy shares, this is the time to make a move.

You don't buy out a company when their shares are sky high, you buy when they are low, you infuse them with a huge cash influx and reap the benefits 1 year later with strong products and services!

I think now is the time for Samsung, IBM, Toshiba, etc... to invest in the struggling AMD.

Smarter move, IMO, to wait for bankruptcy in order to get this so-called "valuable IP" for pennies on the dollar w/o having to buy the sick business that is AMD.

 

[SimianR]

You can't be serious? I'd hope consumers aren't stupid enough to buy rebrands. I'm betting AMD won't see any marketshare gains with those rebrands. NVIDIA will likely keep eating into their share until the next gen stuff on 16nm is released.

Rebrands or not, between the 970 and the 390 - the 390 is hands down the better card. The reviews don't lie Whether or not it catches on with consumers or not is another story.

 

[5150Joker]

Rebrands or not, between the 970 and the 390 - the 390 is hands down the better card. The reviews don't lie Whether or not it catches on with consumers or not is another story.

Well reading a site like Eurogamer it certainly doesn't come off that way. It seems to be a strong competitor at stock speeds but inevitably loses in every other metric, especially when overclocking is taken into consideration. It's better than nothing but still not enough to win over consumers that bother checking these reviews.