tsmc says 28nm in volume now!

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"The latest chips for AMD will be in the Southern Islands series, which will supplant the Radeon HD 6000 series. The first cards are to be released by the end of the year, but the current production schedule could indicate a launch as early as the end of November. The first AMD 28nm GPUs taped out earlier in the spring, and the company has already demonstrated them several times at various industry events.

NVIDIA's Kepler GPUs have also taped out at 28nm, but will not be launched until Q1 of 2012. Sources have indicated that the chip is quite large and yields are not yet high enough to ensure a successful launch at this time."

As expected, once both companies break that 300W limit, they keep on pushing. I'm expecting die sizes remaining similar to current gen, with both cramming as much in as possible. We will be getting doubling up. GPUs will remain large, power hungry and hot, but at least we can expect performance increases in the 80% range.
 

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Unfortunately it's already a forgone conclusion that neither Nvidia nor AMD will be bringing out new flagship GPU's this year. Nvidia is supposedly die shrinking fermi, (gf116 and gf118) hoping for a december release for their notebook lineup while AMD is going to be releasing mid-range to low end desktop cards in small quantities come December.
 
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It's only rumors whats to be released, nothing is confirmed until we get to feast on AIB leaks.

AMD's graphic development have said they are launching next gen 28nm this year, period. What product they are launching, is open to speculation. I don't see a reason for next gen notebook gpus in december, there's no major notebook CPU to be launched thus no imperative for a new gpu to take advantage of the designs and demand. There is a huge incentive for new desktop GPUs, a lot of good games are launching now and then.
 

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As expected, once both companies break that 300W limit, they keep on pushing. I'm expecting die sizes remaining similar to current gen, with both cramming as much in as possible. We will be getting doubling up. GPUs will remain large, power hungry and hot, but at least we can expect performance increases in the 80% range.

I'm sure Nvidia will continue down the large die path, but I'm expecting AMD to go back towards a RV770 sized die. Not having the fastest single GPU has worked out very well for them since it was released, and they make great dual-GPU cards for pure performance. Having larger dies the last two releases hasn't been fun for them since it's caused supply issues due to TSMC difficulties, and I keep hearing that they are continuing to this node.
 
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They are going for broke or they are going home. AMDs brand name needs credibility and wow factor. Why do you think they pushed so hard with the 6990, blowing all power limits and thermal/noise considerations out the door.

It's so AMD can claim the fastest graphics card in the world, which they did and advertised it as such. NV is comfy with a bigger performance lead, they aren't going to let AMD claim the crown, so its expected NV will be pushing for huge die sizes again.. everyone can see it coming thus, AMD isn't going to take a small die size strategy since they will lose big time.
 

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Oh please, please, please come out with a new midrange video card before Christmas! My wife promised to buy me a new video card and I want a HD 7000 series.

I had to pay for my wife to attend a bunch of conferences that the school "highly encourages" but won't pay for (she's working on her PhD). I joked and said she owed me a new video card because of it. She agreed (could've knocked me over with a feather).
 

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This is good news. Means we should be on track for Q1 releases for high end GPU's from both manufacturers.