TSA pat-down leaves traveler covered in urine

JEDIYoda

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This is what happens when you have people who barely graduated high school in charge of our nations airport security----

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40291856/ns/travel-news/?GT1=43001

A retired special education teacher on his way to a wedding in Orlando, Fla., said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down by TSA officers recently at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

“I was absolutely humiliated, I couldn’t even speak,” said Thomas D. “Tom” Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich.

Sawyer is a bladder cancer survivor who now wears a urostomy bag, which collects his urine from a stoma, or opening in his stomach. “I have to wear special clothes and in order to mount the bag I have to seal a wafer to my stomach and then attach the bag. If the seal is broken, urine can leak all over my body and clothes.”

On Nov. 7, Sawyer said he went through the security scanner at Detroit Metropolitan Airport. “Evidently the scanner picked up on my urostomy bag, because I was chosen for a pat-down procedure.”

Due to his medical condition, Sawyer asked to be screened in private. “One officer looked at another, rolled his eyes and said that they really didn’t have any place to take me,” said Sawyer. “After I said again that I’d like privacy, they took me to an office.”

Sawyer wears pants two sizes too large in order to accommodate the medical equipment he wears. He’d taken off his belt to go through the scanner and once in the office with security personnel, his pants fell down around his ankles. “I had to ask twice if it was OK to pull up my shorts,” said Sawyer, “And every time I tried to tell them about my medical condition, they said they didn’t need to know about that.”

efore starting the enhanced pat-down procedure, a security officer did tell him what they were going to do and how they were going to it, but Sawyer said it wasn’t until they asked him to remove his sweatshirt and saw his urostomy bag that they asked any questions about his medical condition.

“One agent watched as the other used his flat hand to go slowly down my chest. I tried to warn him that he would hit the bag and break the seal on my bag, but he ignored me. Sure enough, the seal was broken and urine started dribbling down my shirt and my leg and into my pants.”

The security officer finished the pat-down, tested the gloves for any trace of explosives and then, Sawyer said, “He told me I could go. They never apologized. They never offered to help. They acted like they hadn’t seen what happened. But I know they saw it because I had a wet mark.”
Humiliated, upset and wet, Sawyer said he had to walk through the airport soaked in urine, board his plane and wait until after takeoff before he could clean up.

“I am totally appalled by the fact that agents that are performing these pat-downs have so little concern for people with medical conditions,” said Sawyer.

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Sawyer completed his trip and had no problems with the security procedures at the Orlando International Airport on his journey back home. He said he plans to file a formal complaint with the TSA.

When he does, said TSA spokesperson Dwayne Baird, “We will review the matter and take appropriate action if necessary.” In the meantime, Baird encourages anyone with a medical condition to read the TSA’s website section on assistive devices and mobility aids.

The website says that travelers with disabilities and medical conditions have “the option of requesting a private screening” and that security officers “will not ask nor require you to remove your prosthetic device, cast, or support brace.”
 

Lemon law

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Bullshit says I. One one hand I can't endorse TSA one size fits all stupidity, but still we have to realize that Al-Quida terrorists continue to target air line security.

I gee golly wiz, pollyanna, in a better world we can wave that magic Harry Potter wand and all Al-Quida terrorists will poof vanish.

But now we find all international air line passengers are being targeted by Yemini terrorists.

Oh gee golly wiz, Yemeni terrorists are not exactly the the most competent terrorist in the Al-Quida arsenal, but they came damn close to downing an airplane or two.

Tell me again why its time to totally remove TSA inspections at exactly the same time the threat level once again increses?
 

JMapleton

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Tell me again why its time to totally remove TSA inspections at exactly the same time the threat level once again increses?

Because we have locked pilot cabins, armed undercover agents on flights, and minus the pat downs and body scanners, we STILL have extensive inspections of passengers that makes it almost impossible for a terrorist to board a plane with a weapon?

The bigger question, why are you such a puss? I'm American. From a country that revolted against the most powerful empire in the world and won.

Oh but you're scared of that one a million chance and are willing to give up all your rights and privacy so you can feel "safe."
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally Posted by Lemon law
Tell me again why its time to totally remove TSA inspections at exactly the same time the threat level once again increses?

Because we have locked pilot cabins, armed undercover agents on flights, and minus the pat downs and body scanners, we STILL have extensive inspections of passengers that makes it almost impossible for a terrorist to board a plane with a weapon?
The bigger question, why are you such a puss? -- the short answer is he is a Palestinian!!
I'm American. From a country that revolted against the most powerful empire in the world and won.

Oh but you're scared of that one a million chance and are willing to give up all your rights and privacy so you can feel "safe."
 
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rudder

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Tell me again why its time to totally remove TSA inspections at exactly the same time the threat level once again increses?

Because there are 10,000 other ways to get a bomb on a plane. They haul U.S. mail, cargo, etc along with passengers. eventually there will be a service employee in place capable of putting something unwanted on a plane... whether is be a cleaner, caterer, or even a baggage handler.

A 9/11 style attack won't happen again.

I am not advocating removing the TSA completely because Al-qaeda now wished to execute a large number of smaller attacks versus a bigger attack... but maybe send some people over to El-Al to see how it is done there.
 

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From a country that revolted against two of the most powerful empires in the world and won.



I'll take "What Is Vietnam" for $500, Alex :whiste:

We can talk about Afghanistan in another year or so... ;)
 
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CPA

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Bullshit says I. One one hand I can't endorse TSA one size fits all stupidity, but still we have to realize that Al-Quida terrorists continue to target air line security.

I gee golly wiz, pollyanna, in a better world we can wave that magic Harry Potter wand and all Al-Quida terrorists will poof vanish.

But now we find all international air line passengers are being targeted by Yemini terrorists.

Oh gee golly wiz, Yemeni terrorists are not exactly the the most competent terrorist in the Al-Quida arsenal, but they came damn close to downing an airplane or two.

Tell me again why its time to totally remove TSA inspections at exactly the same time the threat level once again increses?

Haven't you been railing against the Patriot Act for years?

Oh yes, that's right, you have And no, this isn't a strawman. Both issues relate to the government possibly going too far, both issues have raised serious privacy issues, both issues breach private commerce for the sake of national security. Yet, interestingly you are against one member of big brother upholding the Patriot Act, but justifying another member of big brother upholding airline security processes.

Please explain the difference in the two policies and why your logic is different.
 

Orignal Earl

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Because we have locked pilot cabins, armed undercover agents on flights, and minus the pat downs and body scanners, we STILL have extensive inspections of passengers that makes it almost impossible for a terrorist to board a plane with a weapon?

The bigger question, why are you such a puss? I'm American. From a country that revolted against the most powerful empire in the world and won.

Oh but you're scared of that one a million chance and are willing to give up all your rights and privacy so you can feel "safe."

I get the feeling though that if the terrorist had a pair of your 500 dollar jeans and a test tube of acid, you'd be opening the cockpit door before the terrorist could even get the cap off the acid
 

nick1985

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So some elements on the left are for these pat-downs? So weird to me. They scream and kick over the patriot act, but they are ok with someone feeling their wife up.

I just dont get it.
 

Scotteq

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So some elements on the left are for these pat-downs? So weird to me. They scream and kick over the patriot act, but they are ok with someone feeling their wife up.

I just dont get it.



Perhaps it's because someone who they branded with an (R) started speaking against the pat downs, and our far Lefty friends are too obstinate to contemplate the thought there could actually be some agreement on <whatever issue anyone cares to name>. The continuing infringement of personal rights, in this case.
 
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nick1985

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Tell me again why its time to totally remove TSA inspections at exactly the same time the threat level once again increses?

Aren't you just a passive, docile, good little boy. Do what the government tells you, and dont forget to eat your veggies.
 

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So some elements on the left are for these pat-downs? So weird to me. They scream and kick over the patriot act, but they are ok with someone feeling their wife up.

I just dont get it.

Its actually the opposite. A lot more lefties were against it before any republicans started speaking out about it.
 

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Given that our border security would have to improve just to suck, why would any terrorist group even bother with planes anymore? Yeah, yeah, they're big profile targets but so what. They'd get a lot more shock factor by staging numerous napsack bombings at shopping malls / subway stations during the holiday season.

I am not advocating removing the TSA completely because Al-qaeda now wished to execute a large number of smaller attacks versus a bigger attack... but maybe send some people over to El-Al to see how it is done there.

This.
 

nick1985

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Its actually the opposite. A lot more lefties were against it before any republicans started speaking out about it.

I've only seen 2 posters on here support these pat-downs and screenings. Craig(I think) and lemon law. Feel free to post up the names of anyone else that is stupid enough to agree with the TSA on this so I can laugh at their willingness to give up their liberty.
 

CPA

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I've only seen 2 posters on here support these pat-downs and screenings. Craig(I think) and lemon law. Feel free to post up the names of anyone else that is stupid enough to agree with the TSA on this so I can laugh at their willingness to give up their liberty.

Even Dave of all people has been against it. The world must be turning upside down.
 

piasabird

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I dont fly much. So I dont get patted down or scanned. I also cant imagine running around with a collostomy bag. Maybe the guy should just go to the bathroom and empty the bag before being screened, duh? I feel for the guy but this is not something you expect to run into.

Couldnt he just say "I have a collostamy bag full of Unine and if you break the seal I will Punch your face???
 

irishScott

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I dont fly much. So I dont get patted down or scanned. I also cant imagine running around with a collostomy bag. Maybe the guy should just go to the bathroom and empty the bag before being screened, duh? I feel for the guy but this is not something you expect to run into.

Couldnt he just say "I have a collostamy bag full of Unine and if you break the seal I will Punch your face???

As the son of a woman with carcinoid cancer who has rampant diarrhea from it to the point where she can't hold down a job, who has to travel several states away to see one of the few teams of specialists available, who has considered a colostomy bag, I think it's safe to say you know jack.

Maybe he got in line and the bag filled up a little while he was in it (remember these lines can be hours long), just for starters.
 

irishScott

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I've only seen 2 posters on here support these pat-downs and screenings. Craig(I think) and lemon law. Feel free to post up the names of anyone else that is stupid enough to agree with the TSA on this so I can laugh at their willingness to give up their liberty.

Indiana Jane, but she's UK so her liberties are already further down the shitter.
 

Ns1

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I've only seen 2 posters on here support these pat-downs and screenings. Craig(I think) and lemon law. Feel free to post up the names of anyone else that is stupid enough to agree with the TSA on this so I can laugh at their willingness to give up their liberty.

+pcgeek