TSA agent spills Grandpa's ashes on floor

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Hey, let's take a group of people who barely make minimum wage, with basically no employment requirements, and hire through temp agencies...


Then, we will give this agency essentially no oversight. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
 

cybrsage

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She needs to be fired for violating the rules. Until we start doing that, nothing will change.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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She needs to be fired for violating the rules. Until we start doing that, nothing will change.

I agree, and the agency ought to pay punitive damages. Normally I'll give considerable latitude, but if the story is substantially correct there was no excuse for any of this.
 

Jaskalas

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I agree, and the agency ought to pay punitive damages. Normally I'll give considerable latitude, but if the story is substantially correct there was no excuse for any of this.

There's no excuse for the TSA, let alone their abusive actions.

We're talking about an agency that uses molestation as standard operating procedure.
 
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nehalem256

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Hey, let's take a group of people who barely make minimum wage, with basically no employment requirements, and hire through temp agencies...


Then, we will give this agency essentially no oversight. :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

One would have thought it was common sense not to run your fingers through human remains.
 

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There's no excuse for the TSA, let alone their abusive actions.

We're talking about an agency that uses molestation as standard operating procedure.


There is a reason for a TSA to exist since it has been demonstrated that our transportation system is vulnerable. That does not mean that it's acceptable as it stands.
 

waggy

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IF that story is true she needs to be fired. the guy needs a huge apology.

amazing. he told her it was his grandfathers ash's and she opened it and stuck her finger in it? wow.

but the thing t hat gets me is she laughed when she spilled it. I have to say if i was behind the guy in line i would be calling her names. some things just go beyond what a civilized person should do. that is one.
 

BoberFett

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I'm willing to entertain another system which provides equal or superior protection.

What do you propose?

Protection from harm in a free society is a childish dream. People intent on causing harm will not be stopped without an absolute police state where every move is tracked. Locked cockpit doors and passengers who are willing to murder hijackers with their bare hands have pretty well eliminated the threat to airplanes. No need to spend tens of billions of dollars on groping children.

Besides, if a terrorist wanted to cause harm, they wouldn't even need to get past security. Just detonate a bomb in the security line waiting for the TSA checkpoint. What then? The pre-TSA, who screens people before they're allowed to get to the TSA checkpoint? And what happens when that vulnerabe point is attacked? The pre-TSA-pre-TSA who screens people before they're allowed enter the building to go through the pre-TSA checkpoint before they're allowed to go through the TSA checkpoint?

If you want to be safe, never leave your home.
 

1prophet

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Americans want wine service at cheap beer prices and then cry out about the injustice of it all when they get what they pay for.
 

Texashiker

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Americans want wine service at cheap beer prices and then cry out about the injustice of it all when they get what they pay for.

In the case of the TSA, we have neither.

If TSA took security seriously, where are the bomb sniffing dogs? Where are the drug sniffing dogs? Where are the random searches of people standing in line?
 

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Protection from harm in a free society is a childish dream. People intent on causing harm will not be stopped without an absolute police state where every move is tracked. Locked cockpit doors and passengers who are willing to murder hijackers with their bare hands have pretty well eliminated the threat to airplanes. No need to spend tens of billions of dollars on groping children.

Besides, if a terrorist wanted to cause harm, they wouldn't even need to get past security. Just detonate a bomb in the security line waiting for the TSA checkpoint. What then? The pre-TSA, who screens people before they're allowed to get to the TSA checkpoint? And what happens when that vulnerabe point is attacked? The pre-TSA-pre-TSA who screens people before they're allowed enter the building to go through the pre-TSA checkpoint before they're allowed to go through the TSA checkpoint?

If you want to be safe, never leave your home.

So do nothing.
 

ArchAngel777

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If you want to be safe, never leave your home.

If only that were true. There is no safe place. You can die anywhere and anytime. TSA is a joke. I have to experience them on a regular basis and bout 1/2 of them are nice and the other half are dicks looking to fondle dicks.
 

BoberFett

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If only that were true. There is no safe place. You can die anywhere and anytime. TSA is a joke. I have to experience them on a regular basis and bout 1/2 of them are nice and the other half are dicks looking to fondle dicks.

You're right. With all of the deaths in the home every year, I think we need the TSA to increase their presence in our bathrooms to fondle us before we shower.
 

waggy

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Nothing is better than doing the wrong thing.

If they stopped molesting folks I might not be calling for their heads to be removed.

not just that but they need to start useing common sense. Why check and molest a 4 yr old? or a old man in a wheelchair? or spill someone's ashes? or dispose of breast milk?

we need to look at what other country's are doing and maybe adopt some of the things they do.
 

BoberFett

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not just that but they need to start useing common sense. Why check and molest a 4 yr old? or a old man in a wheelchair? or spill someone's ashes? or dispose of breast milk?

we need to look at what other country's are doing and maybe adopt some of the things they do.

That would include racial profiling. Other countries who are actually concerned about security will do things like search the 30 year old middle eastern person with a one way ticket instead of the 4 year old blond girl standing behind him. We're not allowed to do that here. In the US it's "random", or as some people prefer to call it "worthless".
 

QuantumPion

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I agree, and the agency ought to pay punitive damages. Normally I'll give considerable latitude, but if the story is substantially correct there was no excuse for any of this.

What good would that do? You know the government can print unlimited money for the purpose of paying damages in lawsuits they lose. We need criminal liability. Managers and higher ups need to get jail time for reckless negligence in their hiring practices which lead to predictable results such as this.
 

CycloWizard

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This is what happens when you hand government the keys to the castle. TSA has made traveling much more stressful, difficult, regulated, and expensive without doing anything of substance to improve security. The smoke and mirrors of today are simply a more expensive version of Rome's bread and circuses.
 

waggy

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That would include racial profiling. Other countries who are actually concerned about security will do things like search the 30 year old middle eastern person with a one way ticket instead of the 4 year old blond girl standing behind him. We're not allowed to do that here. In the US it's "random", or as some people prefer to call it "worthless".

They try to hard to be "random" here that it goes beyond absurd.


I have no issue with Racial profiling. sorry if people think its racist but lets be honest about the situation and safety.

Racial profiling in a airport should be used. Not saying it should be used in pulling over someone or fallowing that person in a store. We need to use common sense. That is something that is really lacking in airport saftey
 

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They try to hard to be "random" here that it goes beyond absurd.


I have no issue with Racial profiling. sorry if people think its racist but lets be honest about the situation and safety.

Racial profiling in a airport should be used. Not saying it should be used in pulling over someone or fallowing that person in a store. We need to use common sense. That is something that is really lacking in airport saftey

We need to look at what works, consider our situation carefully and adapt it so it meets real Constitutional standards. I've been told that this approach takes too much time and so must be dismissed out of hand. Too bad.