Trying to pick a good VGA at around 140$

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Crushy

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Hi, I've been a bit out of the hardware loop for a few years.

I used to build my own PCs until mine started plain killing my partitions for no reason. I tried replacing the hard drive and several more parts but no dice. The PC store where I used to get technical help also closed down, so I started buying stock HP pcs. (Yeah, I'm aware how retarded that sounds)

Well, now it's time break the habit and upgrade. My 8600GT is starting to show it's age and I need a PC that's at least able to run CIV 5, Supreme Commander and at least some of the newest game on above-average settings.

I've been considering the HD6670, HD6570 and maybe the GTS450 but I'm having a bit of trouble trying to discover which one is best.

I don't mind paying a bit more for quality but I don't want to stray too far from the 100€ mark.

Many thanks :)
 
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I agree that you should get a GTX 460 1GB. I have 2 of them in SLI mode and there isn't a game that I can't play on max settings at a good frame-rate.
 
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5850? gtx460? am I missing something here? we dont even know a single thing about his pc or resolution. and maybe its lack of sleep but it looks like to me he probably has a stock HP comp.
 
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Lonyo

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Giving an amount in USD doesn't help when you're not in the US since US and European prices are different (AMD is usually cheaper than NV in Europe where they might be equally priced in the US).
Giving an amount in euros is helpful, but more useful would be knowing where you live and what local prices might be like.

On Amazon.de, HD5770/HD6770 (same card) is 90€ and up.
GTX550 seems to be 120€
GTS450 is 95€ and up
GTX460 1GB is more like 140€

So assuming those are similar to your local prices, an HD5770/6770 would probably be the best choice at less than 100€.

GTX550 > (only just) HD5770/6770 > GTS450 > HD5750 > HD6670 > 6570
 
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ghost recon88

ghost recon88

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Newegg open box has the HD 6850 for that price, not sure how it stacks up against the 460 to be honest.
 
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Soundmanred

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ghost recon88 said:
Newegg open box has the HD 6850 for that price, not sure how it stacks up against the 460 to be honest.
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They rate pretty much equal in most tests.
I have a 460 (1GB) and an HD6850 and they perform about the same. (both systems have a 2500K @ 4.3, 8GB 1600, Gigabyte UD3-B3)
 
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everyone still suggesting cards when he likely has an HP comp? maybe op will come back one day...
 
bryanW1995

bryanW1995

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OP, please give us the complete system specs for your rig. If you are building one we can give you input on that as well. Also, what country do you live in? What sort of prices are available for specific components that you are considering?
 
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Crushy

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Yeah the GTX460 is a bit out of my range (180€ where I live). I can maybe get a 6850 for 170€ though.

Are they worth the price difference compared to a 120€ 5770?

As for current specs, I have a Q6600 and 4GB of DDR2 Ram.

I currently use a single monitor at 1280x1024 but I intend to eventually go dual-monitor.

The mobo is a Pegatron Benicia: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&objectID=c01324212

I'm not sure if this is important but I currently also have a SoundBlaster Live! 24 bit installed.

My main objective with this project is getting rid of my VGA bottleneck and slowly upgrade my PC one component at a time during the next few months.

Also, I live in Portugal. If anyone wants, I've found this website is probably the best place to get an idea what the prices are like over here: http://www.chip7.pt/catalogo/?cat=136&p=1



PS: Sorry for taking this long, it's been a busy week. I've been reading all the replies, I just didn't have the time to post :)
 
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toyota

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is this a pre built oem pc like HP? what is the exact power supply that you have?
 
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Crushy

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Yes, it was entirely pre-built. I think I only added the sound card and maybe exchanged the VGA for a better one that was left over from my old PC.

The power supply might be a bit hard to figure out. I don't know the exact model of PC I have, and I remember looking for the Voltage of the power supply one day and coming up empty. I'll be right back and try to find out one more time.
 
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Lifer
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and is this an HP like you mentioned you normally buy? if so what is the exact model so I can check out the exact case and all specs. but yeah the psu will have label right there on it and its probably cheapo 250 or 300 watt psu so you will need to replace it for any decent card. you will also need a card that exhausts all heat out back because your case has poor flow and not designed for high end cards. also you cant oc your cpu so you will severally limit any higher end card. this are reasons not to buy bre built HP pc if higher end game is your hobby.
 
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tweakboy said:
Jump on a Bar none 460 1GB . Best bang for the buck. and a good price 120 to 140

Make sure PSU has at least 2 lanes.. hmmmmm.
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you dont need a certain number of rails. all that matters is the actual total power available no matter how its divided. and if anything a strong single rail is preferable over it being divided.
 
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Shlong

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I recently upgraded from a 8800GT to GTX 460 and I'm very pleased with the results. I also got another GTX 460 and a bridge to SLI (had to use slipatch b/c the pci-express slots are 16x/4x) and it's been working out pretty well.

I would also recommend GTX 460 1GB
 
bryanW1995

bryanW1995

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tweakboy said:
Jump on a Bar none 460 1GB . Best bang for the buck. and a good price 120 to 140

Make sure PSU has at least 2 lanes.. hmmmmm.
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Why is it better to have 2 rails (assuming you actually meant what I think you meant)? From my experience a single very large 12v rail is just as good if not better.
 
Ken g6

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This is getting off-topic, but...Personally, I like my single-rail Corsair 450W 80+ PSU, but they don't make those anymore. I use it with a GTX 460 with a slight factory overclock. Anything 450W that's *not* Corsair could be a little underpowered for a GTX 460 anyway. :whiste: I've never heard of the "Trust" brand.

The good thing about N rails is that if one part has a short, it'll only fry that part like a PSU of 1/Nth the rated power. That's about it. The bad thing about N rails is that you have to balance the power requirements of your parts over them.

Do think about some level of 80+ certification. If you use your computer frequently and/or hard, it could easily pay for itself in electricity costs.
 
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