Trying to find intel g4400t

[philipma1957]

Okay I can find the intel g4400 but I want the intel g4400t
Same is true with the intel g4500 vs the intel g4500t

My needs call for the cheapest t cpu and I can't seem to locate any at all.

this link should show the g 4400t vs the g 4400
ARK | Compare Intel® Products

this link should show the g 4500t vs the g4500
ARK | Compare Intel® Products

I found a sku at tigerdirect for both

Intel Pentium G4500T - 3 GHz - 2 cores - 2 threads - 3 MB cache - LGA1151 Socket - OEM at TigerDirect.com

Intel Pentium G4400T - 2.9 GHz - 2 cores - 2 threads - 3 MB cache - LGA1151 Socket - OEM at TigerDirect.com


Why is it such a hassle to model t Intels?

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

The T-series seem to be spoken for by OEMs. I see a lot of 6100T and 6400T chips in machines at Best Buy, Office Depot, etc; they're TDP-limited to 35W and tend to show up in all-in-ones and mini towers.

 

[LTC8K6]

Any reason for the t models? There isn't going to be much of a difference in power use overall.

The G3900 is probably the cheapest Skylake chip that's readily available.

 

[philipma1957]

I don't need much cpu and I know the t does 6 watts less then the none t . So while 6 watts is not much. They will run 24/7/365 so in a day 144 watts in a week about a kwatt my power will be 13 cents so $6.50 per year x 10 pc's = $65.00 a year. Which is the price of 1 cpu. The g3900 will use more power about 8 watts which in my case is about 87 dollars a year. These are all in mining ops. Various rigs nodes and services I run on dedicated pc's So since none of them need a power cpu and I needed a lot of them I thought I might find a source for them some where.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Weird, my G4400 is showing up as a "Intel Pentium G4400TE", in CPU-Z 1.76 and 1.77, when it's overclocked, now that I've upgraded from Win7 to Win10 (1511).

But the CPUID string is still showing "Intel (r) Pentium (r) CPU G4400 @ 3.30Ghz".

 

[Sheep221]

Weird, my G4400 is showing up as a "Intel Pentium G4400TE", in CPU-Z 1.76 and 1.77, when it's overclocked, now that I've upgraded from Win7 to Win10 (1511).

But the CPUID string is still showing "Intel (r) Pentium (r) CPU G4400 @ 3.30Ghz".

I rember when I overclocked ny Athlon XP 2500 and after reboot it displayed itself as Athlon XP 3200 in post screen

 

[Yuriman]

I'd just get a G3900 and call it a day. TDP is not power consumption, and as far as I'm aware, "T" CPUs don't have measurably different power characteristics at the same clocks, they're just clocked a little lower. If you're concerned about the CPU drawing power under heavy loads, (assuming you're running Windows) set the maximum processor speed to 1% and it won't go above 800mhz, or anywhere between 1% and 100% depending on your needs.

LegitReviews found their G4400 system to draw only 57w peak, with a fully loaded iGPU and CPU:

With only 26w difference between idle and load, there's no way the CPU is coming anywhere near its 54w TDP.

 

[LTC8K6]

I don't need much cpu and I know the t does 6 watts less then the none t . So while 6 watts is not much. They will run 24/7/365 so in a day 144 watts in a week about a kwatt my power will be 13 cents so $6.50 per year x 10 pc's = $65.00 a year. Which is the price of 1 cpu. The g3900 will use more power about 8 watts which in my case is about 87 dollars a year. These are all in mining ops. Various rigs nodes and services I run on dedicated pc's So since none of them need a power cpu and I needed a lot of them I thought I might find a source for them some where.

Your CPU is not going to be running at 100% load 24/7/365 though. That's the flaw in your reasoning. That's why you probably would not notice any power savings over a year from the 4400T over the 4400.

There may be some logic in actually using a more powerful CPU than a Pentium or Celeron, in order to finish tasks faster. An i3 might finish tasks so much faster, that it actually saves you money in the long run, both by doing more work quicker, and by being able to stay at lower clock speeds for longer periods.
Overall, an i3 6100 may actually be the most efficient cpu for your tasks, for example. It's TDP is 51W and it will run rings around a G4400.

If 36 watt cpu A has to stay at high clock speeds a lot longer to get the job done, it may actually use more electricity than 54 watt cpu B.

 

[ShintaiDK]

http://geizhals.eu/intel-pentium-g4400t-cm8066201927506-a1329950.html

 

[dtgoodwin]

I'd just get a G3900 and call it a day. TDP is not power consumption, and as far as I'm aware, "T" CPUs don't have measurably different power characteristics at the same clocks, they're just clocked a little lower. If you're concerned about the CPU drawing power under heavy loads, (assuming you're running Windows) set the maximum processor speed to 1% and it won't go above 800mhz, or anywhere between 1% and 100% depending on your needs.

LegitReviews found their G4400 system to draw only 57w peak, with a fully loaded iGPU and CPU:

With only 26w difference between idle and load, there's no way the CPU is coming anywhere near its 54w TDP.

I made the mistake of buying an i3-2100T instead of a non-T version. The only thing you get with the T is a restricted consumption device. Newer process nodes may have changed this slightly, but idle power is generally the same between T and non T, and watts consumed per unit of work done, the i3-2100T actually fared quite a bit worse than the regular i3-2100. You will get more performance, and a quicker return to idle state with the non-T varieties. The only reason to ever get one is if you are using a machine that cannot handle the cooling requirements, which are usually the all-in-ones. Even small mini-itx cases should have no problem cooling any of the G3xxx or G4xxx series processors.