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Trying to find a notebook to do everything... hows this one?

That notebook will do most things pretty well with the exception of play 3d games. Also, The battery life on that notebook is not going to be so great. If you do want to play games I would recommend that you look at the dv4000 line. If you do not want to game I would recommend the the dv1000 line. This is assuming you want to stay with HP of course.
 
Aside from all that mparr just said, those slow hdds they offer are going to bottleneck all the other components. Go with a P-M notebook because of the coolness and low-wattaqe they run at.
 
Originally posted by: andrewbabcock
Aside from all that mparr just said, those slow hdds they offer are going to bottleneck all the other components. Go with a P-M notebook because of the coolness and low-wattaqe they run at.
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On the subject of slow hard drives:

This is how I explain the differences in notebook hard drives to my users when they ask...

A 4200 rpm drive can be slow but if you are the type of use that just wants to check email and browse the web it would be perfectly fine.

5400rpm drives are just fine for your average user that does a little of everything.

7200 rpm drives are for users who game heavily or use HD intensive programs such as auto cad, or do a lot of movie and music ripping.

Also, the amount of memory in a system can help reduce the need for faster HD. For instance: You may notice that while gaming your pc tends to slow down and lag when it has to load a lot of info from the HD but you also only have 256mb of ram in your box. Upgrade your ram to 1 GB and you will notice a significant difference because you do not have to use the swap drive as much.

Saying a slow HD will bottleneck every other component is not a true statement. It depends on the app and what type of user you are. The vast majority of people will be perfectly fine on a 5400 rpm drive.

Also, as fbrdphreak asked you to do here you need to stop blindly recommending P-Ms. If you feel they are the best then that?s fine, but to blindly proclaim they are the best and give no facts to back up your statements does this forum a big disservice.

Every processor has its place. The P-M may not be suitable for all users and it certainly does not win 1st place in every benchmark.
 
He's trying to justify his 9300 purchase, when there are better laptops out there (and this coming from an XPS Gen2 owner).

Yes, the Dothan is an excellent mobile CPU, but there are better options.
 
Originally posted by: Ronin
He's trying to justify his 9300 purchase, when there are better laptops out there (and this coming from an XPS Gen2 owner).

Yes, the Dothan is an excellent mobile CPU, but there are better options.
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WTF? What better options are these? I don't need to justify my i9300 purchase. Are you saying Turions are better? My god you need to look that up. They do not run as cool or from less power than P-M.
 
Yes, I am saying Turions are better. I don't need to look it up. I've been testing them for some time now (I have ~20 laptops, and I'm pretty sure I have a better grasp than you do).

You're well aware that Dothan's easily get into the 70C range, right? No cooler than a DTR. That, and PowerNow rips SpeedStep to shreds. 😉

Go back and look again, my friend.
 
Originally posted by: andrewbabcock
Originally posted by: Ronin
He's trying to justify his 9300 purchase, when there are better laptops out there (and this coming from an XPS Gen2 owner).

Yes, the Dothan is an excellent mobile CPU, but there are better options.
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WTF? What better options are these? I don't need to justify my i9300 purchase. Are you saying Turions are better? My god you need to look that up. They do not run as cool or from less power than P-M.
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Please read this!

Obviously you didn't bother to look it up andrewbabcock. As stated before you are doing a disservice to this forum by spouting misinformation. Your willingness to help is noble but you would be better served to not post if you can not back up what you are saying with facts. If you would like to state something that is your opinion then preface it with "In my opinion..." or "IMHO".

Here is what I would like to contribute to what is becoming a mess of a topic....

The turion is on par or above the P-M in almost all benchmarks and the difference in battery life is negligible. IMHO it?s six in one and half a dozen in the other with either of these processors right now.

(Please notice the use of fact from the article and then the use of "IMHO" so stress my opinion about the two processors in question being close to equal.)
 
Originally posted by: mparr1708
Originally posted by: andrewbabcock
Originally posted by: Ronin
He's trying to justify his 9300 purchase, when there are better laptops out there (and this coming from an XPS Gen2 owner).

Yes, the Dothan is an excellent mobile CPU, but there are better options.
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WTF? What better options are these? I don't need to justify my i9300 purchase. Are you saying Turions are better? My god you need to look that up. They do not run as cool or from less power than P-M.
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Please read this!

Obviously you didn't bother to look it up andrewbabcock. As stated before you are doing a disservice to this forum by spouting misinformation. Your willingness to help is noble but you would be better served to not post if you can not back up what you are saying with facts. If you would like to state something that is your opinion then preface it with "In my opinion..." or "IMHO".

Here is what I would like to contribute to what is becoming a mess of a topic....

The turion is on par or above the P-M in almost all benchmarks and the difference in battery life is negligible. IMHO it?s six in one and half a dozen in the other with either of these processors right now.

(Please notice the use of fact from the article and then the use of "IMHO" so stress my opinion about the two processors in question being close to equal.)
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I stand corrected apparently but i wouldn't buy a Turion any time soon...I would have waited for Yonah if i was going to get a Turion.
 
Does that mean you get the point? Research what you're talking about before flapping your gums. The Dothan is not the end all/beat all, and neither is Yonah (X2's will most likely rip it to shreds, actually). Get off your P-M soapbox, and give it a rest.
 
Originally posted by: andrewbabcock
Intel is retarded if yonah is going to require more power. I thought they had figured it out but apparently they have not.
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I think we have had a breakthrough moment here! I don't think the light has come on yet but it is starting to flicker 🙂. (And no I'm not saying Intel sucks (My new notebook has a Dothan 2ghz in it) but it would seem that you are finally starting to see that Intel is not the end all be all.)

 
Originally posted by: mparr1708
Originally posted by: andrewbabcock
Intel is retarded if yonah is going to require more power. I thought they had figured it out but apparently they have not.
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I think we have had a breakthrough moment here! I don't think the light has come on yet but it is starting to flicker 🙂. (And no I'm not saying Intel sucks (My new notebook has a Dothan 2ghz in it) but it would seem that you are finally starting to see that Intel is not the end all be all.)
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See, the thing is I am the biggest advocate in the world for Athlon 64. I think Intel is not the be all end all. The thing is, they seem to have it figured out with P-M. P4's suck but i think that Intel's next desktop processor will be some variation of the P-M. If i were going to build an Intel desktop, which i would never do, i would put a P-M in it without a doubt. But if i were to build a Desktop, i would put an A64 4000+ Sandy or an X2 4400+ or so. I still feel as though P-M is the best mobile processor on the market. The AMD X2's are actually running pretty hot compared to previous A64's, which is pretty understandable, considering there are 2 cores, something AMD has not had experience with. (It still pwns D in temps)

If they can get Yonah wattage down to at or below current P-M, then Yonah could be a strong dual core, certainly better than a P-D, and possibly better than an X2 if they can cool it down.

I have posted before that i could put a container of lava on top of a Sandy, it might still run cooler than a Suckscott. Intel sucks for desktops, but i feel that P-M is a strong proccessor, and i have bought it over a Turion. (Ferrari 4005 problems with heat, noise, optical drive, etc.)

Intel does suck, but i wouldn't get anything but a P-M for a notebook.

 
Both are good processors. The Turion tends to be a smidge faster; however, they're both good. I'd get the Turion because it's cheaper.
Also, the batteries in the laptops play a large role. Most laptops have absurdly small batteries; primarily due to the constant focusing on making a thin laptop. I personally would be happy to carry a laptop 1.5" thick providing that the other dimensions were small; another 1/2" will only increase weight, while making it really no less portable. It would also allow for a battery that lasts 50% longer, better cooling technology, and better shock protection. (A thicker iBook with a G5 would be my dream laptop.)
 
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