Trying to figure out if this would work...

[MikeMike]

ok lets see, my mom likes my current car, and is looking for a car, so i figure i could give/sell her mine correct? i own ~10k on it, and would tell her to just take the payments over and give me about 6 grand, since ive only had the car a few months, it is family stuff, so yea, that way she can also just sell her Rav4, and keep the money from it.

then, i would purchase this car...

2000 viggen in great condition with just under 72000 miles. Extended warranty to 110K, ronal R1's with Blizzaks and Viggen rims with Michelin Pilot Sports. Also includes ski rack

So here is the deal. The car is in the best shape a car can be for having 78K. No sludge, no ticking, etc. The paint has the small little dings any car receives from highway driving, nothing out side the norm. The Viggen Wheels have obviously been around for 78K. I purchased the ronals a couple of years ago and probably put 8K on them. I clay and wax the car twice a year, regularly washed. 100% stock. The car drives extremely well, especially with the PS1's (they hug dry pavement). The previous owner had to replace the clutch, and i replaced a throttle pulley during the 60K inspection. That's it as far as i know. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

and a pic.
http://www.saabcentral.com/classifieds/images/img43fb40838a530.jpg

and, my plans: steering rack brace, ARB22 rear brace, and a 6 point rear brace, which should stiffen the chassis up MAJORLY, and elminiate almost all "torque" steer.

specs of a viggen: 235hp, 253 lbft, 4 door, hatch, turbocharged, really low, 6.4s 0-60.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Torque steer isn't the result of chassis flex, it is a result of front suspension and steering design having an axis of steering rotation that is offset from the center of the tire's contact patch.

EDIT: Does the car have 72,000 miles or 78,000 miles? It's not a good sign when the owner is that confused.

ZV

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Torque steer isn't the result of chassis flex, it is a result of front suspension and steering design having an axis of steering rotation that is offset from the center of the tire's contact patch.

ZV

actually, its the steering rack brace that eliminates the "torque" steer, which according to everyone ive ever seen talk about the viggen, isnt true torque steer, rather its a result of a bushing with a GM stamp that is somewhere along the steering column that is WAYYY to soft for the application, and causes the steering rack to move.

all the rest is just to fix the old ass mid 80's chassis.

 

[rob4128]

I have a 2002 Viggen. Torque steer isn't really a problem to me, but others think it's bad enough to spend money fixing it. The amount of torque steer seems to relate to both year and tire choice.

PM me or reply here if you have any questions.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: rob4128
I have a 2002 Viggen. Torque steer isn't really a problem to me, but others think it's bad enough to spend money fixing it. The amount of torque steer seems to relate to both year and tire choice.

PM me or reply here if you have any questions.

well, seeing as how the Michelin Sports, are GREAT tires, as are Blizzaks for winter, with 2 sets of wheels, its awesome for that deal.


Zenmervolt: the ad was posted in late feb, and i just emailed him yesterday, so yea, 6k miles in 1.5 months isnt small, but its not unheard of...

 

[rob4128]

It seems like a good deal, but Saabs Viggens don't hold their value well. Especially if they have over 50k miles on them. Between engine oil sludge, bending wheels, scraping bumpers, busted SID (Saab Information Display), fear of torque steer, and 5-speed only, it's tough to sell them to someone that's not a Saab enthusiast.

At over 50,000 miles, you should invest in a new direct ignition cassette to keep with you. It can go at any minute and leave you stranded if Saab dealers are closed and you?re stuck in a non-Saab town. This won?t necessarily happen at 50k, but it?s better to be safe than sorry. Some last much longer. It?s a $200 part.

Here's my car. The only thing I?ve done to it since buying it new was replace the stereo, paint the valve cover, change the DI cassette at 52k miles (old one didn?t die, will be used as spare), changed wheels to the ones on the 9-3 Vector, SID died twice under warranty, switched to cheap Kumho Ecsta 712 tires (I like them), Dunlop Graspic DS-1 17? snows on another set of rims, and installed short shift kit (I highly recommend this).

I have seen Viggens with that mileage go for $10,000 before on ebay. Considering I bought my car for about $36k new, $13,000 is a good deal. But, the used market for Viggens isn?t very hot. I'm not trying to scare you. Saabs in general are great, especially the Viggen.

I see you're in Ohio. I am the president of the New York Saab Owners Club. A few of us from the club drove out to an event in Columbus to support the Ohio club. Here's some pics... Maybe you would like to contact them once you get your car.

 

[PricklyPete]

Didn't you just buy a Tahoe? Who am I confusing you with?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: rob4128
It seems like a good deal, but Saabs Viggens don't hold their value well. Especially if they have over 50k miles on them. Between engine oil sludge, bending wheels, scraping bumpers, busted SID (Saab Information Display), fear of torque steer, and 5-speed only, it's tough to sell them to someone that's not a Saab enthusiast.

At over 50,000 miles, you should invest in a new direct ignition cassette to keep with you. It can go at any minute and leave you stranded if Saab dealers are closed and you?re stuck in a non-Saab town. This won?t necessarily happen at 50k, but it?s better to be safe than sorry. Some last much longer. It?s a $200 part.

Here's my car. The only thing I?ve done to it since buying it new was replace the stereo, paint the valve cover, change the DI cassette at 52k miles (old one didn?t die, will be used as spare), changed wheels to the ones on the 9-3 Vector, SID died twice under warranty, switched to cheap Kumho Ecsta 712 tires (I like them), Dunlop Graspic DS-1 17? snows on another set of rims, and installed short shift kit (I highly recommend this).

I have seen Viggens with that mileage go for $10,000 before on ebay. Considering I bought my car for about $36k new, $13,000 is a good deal. But, the used market for Viggens isn?t very hot. I'm not trying to scare you. Saabs in general are great, especially the Viggen.

I see you're in Ohio. I am the president of the New York Saab Owners Club. A few of us from the club drove out to an event in Columbus to support the Ohio club. Here's some pics... Maybe you would like to contact them once you get your car.

i know what its like to own a Saab, i owned a 99 9-5 that killed itself basically.

sludged and i had to stop driving when i got a CEL thrown for low pressure, had the sludge cleaned out, and sold it.


PricklyPete, you are confusing me, with whoring out my dads car.