Truth, justice, all that stuff.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/30/opini...html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

Truth, Justice and (Fill in the Blank)
By ERIK LUNDEGAARD

In the first screen incarnation of Superman, the Max Fleischer cartoons that ran from 1941 to 1943, each episode's preamble informs us not only of the origin and powers of this relatively new creation (Krypton, speeding bullet, etc.), but also the kinds of things he fights for. It's a shorter list than you think. Before World War II, Superman fought "a never-ending battle for truth and justice." Back then, that was enough.

By the time the first live-action Superman hit the screen ? Kirk Alyn, in a 1948 serial ? the lessons of World War II, particularly in the gas chambers of Europe, were obvious. That's why Pa Kent tells young Clark he must always use his powers "in the interests of truth, tolerance and justice."

It wasn't until Superman came to television in the 1950's that the phrase became codified in the form most of us remember it: "a never-ending battle for truth, justice and the American way."

You wouldn't know this from the many articles that have been written about Bryan Singer's film "Superman Returns," which opened this week. Few of these articles treat the Man of Steel as if he's a process, the malleable product of different writers and eras. Many, in fact, talk about how unchanging he's been over the years. And quite a few quote the line "truth, justice and the American way" as if it's something Superman always stood for ? even though you won't hear it in this film.

Where did that specific phrase come from? According to Mark Waid, a former DC Comics editor, it first turned up on the innovative "Adventures of Superman" radio series, which ran, off and on, from 1940 to 1951. It was the radio show, not the comic book, that introduced many facets of the Superman myth: the editor Perry White (rather than George Taylor), Jimmy Olsen (rather than a nameless copy boy) and kryptonite. Superman never flew until he flew on the radio. In the comics, he was still leaping an eighth of a mile.

Since Superman was a work in progress, it makes sense that the preamble was a work in progress, too. Fans first heard "Up in the sky! Look!" rather than the other way around. Those who did look thought they saw not a bird but "a giant bird." At one point the Fleischer cartoons even scrapped the whole "speeding bullet" business in favor of more weather-oriented metaphors: "Faster than a streak of lightning! More powerful than the pounding surf! Mightier than a roaring hurricane!"

Then, in fall 1942, fans of the radio show became the first to hear about Superman's battle for "truth, justice and the American way."

At that time the war in Europe was not going well. Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was sweeping across Africa, and the German Army was driving toward Stalingrad. The Japanese had been turned back at Midway but they were still invading Pacific islands. We were all fighting for the American way. Why shouldn't Superman?

As the war turned in our favor, though, the additional phrase didn't seem as necessary. By 1944 it was gone, and for the remainder of the radio show, Superman devoted himself to the fight for tolerance ? as in the 1946 episode, "Unity House," in which Superman battles the Ku Klux Klan.

It took the paranoia and patriotism of the cold war era to bring back "the American way" ? this time in the "Adventures of Superman" television series, which ran from 1952 to 1958. Every week, young, impressionable baby boomers were greeted with the phrase as they sat down to watch the Man of Steel combat crooks and communist spies.

After the television show, "truth, justice and the American way" became synonymous with the Superman saga; indeed, every Superman since has had to grapple with the phrase's legacy. The 1966 Saturday morning cartoon, "The New Adventures of Superman," tried a strategy of substitution: children were told Superman's fight was for "truth, justice and freedom."

Others tried omission. In the premiere of the 1993 television series "Lois & Clark," Lois asks Superman why he's here on Earth. His response ? "To help" ? isn't good enough for her, and she suggests something more dynamic. "I mean if you said, 'I'm here to fight for truth ... or justice.' " He nods: "Well, truth and justice. That sounds good."

The most recent incarnation to use the 1950's phrase was the 1978 Christopher Reeve movie, "Superman." When Lois first interviews the Man of Steel, she asks why he's here, and he responds straight-faced: "I'm here to fight for truth, justice and the American way." It's the first time Superman himself ever uses the phrase ? a bold move considering how cynical the country had become after the Vietnam War and Watergate. That cynicism is reflected in Lois's response: "You're going to end up fighting every elected official in this country!"

Some people are now objecting to the fact that "Superman Returns" omits the phrase. Perry White asks his reporters to find out more about the Man of Steel after his five-year absence. "Does he still stand for truth, justice, all that stuff?" he says. Right-wing blogs are already red-faced at the slight.

There's no reason to be upset. Superman is right back where he began: fighting a never-ending battle for truth and justice. That should be enough to occupy any man. Even a Superman.



I particulary like this part:
Pa Kent tells young Clark he must always use his powers "in the interests of truth, tolerance and justice.
Imagine that. Superman fighting for tolerance.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Unfortunately, for a great deal of people, even more so around the world, the 'American way' doesn't have much to do with truth or justice at the moment. :(
 

Todd33

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WTF is the "American way", exploiting third world countries for cheap labor and oil? I've never understood that...
 

GoPackGo

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Truth justice and tolerance are the American way.

At least thats what we should be striving towards.
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Truth justice and tolerance are the American way.

At least thats what we should be striving towards.

No, that's the American ideal. The American motto. It's what America is based on.



...... Unfortunately for many years now it has not been the American way by any means.

As far as the new movie goes, I thought it was pretty darn good.
 

daniel49

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Given thats its Hollywierd , I'm certainly not suprised.
As Old as Superman is perhaps he should be fighting for social security, medicaid, and free dentures for all?

Whats next Captain America going to become UN Man?
 

n yusef

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I think the omition of "the American way" is very American. This movie will be released in many other countries and discluding "the American way" is really just to make sure no one boycotts the movie because they hate America. It's pure capitalism.
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: n yusef
I think the omition of "the American way" is very American. This movie will be released in many other countries and discluding "the American way" is really just to make sure no one boycotts the movie because they hate America. It's pure capitalism.

Hmmm .... good point. I hadn't considered that. That makes more sense than just about anything else I've ever read in P&N.
 

zephyrprime

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Originally posted by: Frackal
the self-worship around here is appalling
If you disagree, just say it. Don't make an oblique remark attacking the character of the previous posters.

<begin non-sequiter>Also, the ficticious superman actually fought the real life ku klux klan and won! The writer of the radio show had him reveal the actual code phrases of the klan and this caused real life kids to start using the phrases. This actually caused a drastic decline in membership.</non-sequiter>

 

Polish3d

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According to the news the screenwrites said:

"I don't think Superman stands for the American way, he's an alien from Krypton without any papers."


this kind of needling is why people really do dislike the crowd in hollywood
 

Termagant

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Please explain what the American Way was in the 50's Superman concept, and what it would be today, if different.

I think in the 50s it would be fighting communism and standing for freedom?

What would it be today???
 

Wag

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Originally posted by: Frackal
According to the news the screenwrites said:

"I don't think Superman stands for the American way, he's an alien from Krypton without any papers."


this kind of needling is why people really do dislike the crowd in hollywood
Hahaha. Cute.

OK, what's really funny is that in the new John Byrne version of Superman he's technically "born" on Earth after his pod lands and releases him.

 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Termagant
Please explain what the American Way was in the 50's Superman concept, and what it would be today, if different.

I think in the 50s it would be fighting communism and standing for freedom?

What would it be today???

Nothings changed - Freedom, rule of law and habous corpus is what America has been and is all about.

Those words may sound simplistic but read what lifes like in a place like Saudi Arabia or any place else on the planet you'll see America is all about fighting for freedom.

Do we have some athoriarians? Yeah both liberals and conservatives can be but it's hella tempered compared to anyplace else too.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Nothings changed - Freedom, rule of law and habous corpus is what America has been and is all about.

Those words may sound simplistic but read what lifes like in a place like Saudi Arabia or any place else on the planet you'll see America is all about fighting for freedom.

Sorry, but it's very arrogant to say "a place like Saudi Arabia or any place else on the planet". Of course America isn't comparable to hell hole's like S.A. or the like but friend there is a whole other, very developed, very progressive world out there outside of the US.
To lump it all together with S.A as proof of American superiority is the height of ignorance and arrogance and is exactly what breeds anti-Americanism amongst average people in even our ally nations.

Have you been overseas lately? I left the US 9 years ago and was quite amazed by the world out there... I haven't been back since. Too many great places and people to see. :)

BTW, quite a few other nations also uphold freedom, rule of law and habeous corpus and haven't participated in an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation lately, or don't have GITMOs or massive domestic prison populations.

Note that I am not referring to my current nation of residence... unfortunately Australia has some of it's own human rights stains to worry about and follows the US much too willingly into misadventure.
 

DealMonkey

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RIP the American Way.

We're comin on fast
And we're built to last
We stumbled once in 'Nam
Now we're glad to finally say
Those days have passed
Tell me how long can it last!