Trump's new video ties Dems to the murders by illegal immigrants.

[Mai72]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...tics/trump-campaign-immigration-ad/index.html

Basic 101 scare mongering. Let's scare the masses. Maybe Dems should tie the Vegas shooter to the Repubs? If they did, the kill count would easily favor the Vegas shooter.

 

[shortylickens]

The vid in question.

Donald is a fuckstick of epic proportions.

 

[boomerang]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

 

[interchange]

Ok. Even taj has to admit this is just downright deplorable particularly considering the timing, right?

 

[interchange]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

Try applying that logic to guns then tell me why you shouldn't fuck off.

 

[dank69]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

The part missing from your simple logic is how you actually get all the illegals out and how you actually stop more from coming in. A wall isn't going to stop them all. Probably won't even stop the majority. So without that piece of the puzzle, blaming Democrats for every crime committed by illegals is disingenuous at best.

 

[fskimospy]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

Yes, truly the primary obstacle to high speed rail is the prosecution of illegal immigrants. I’m sure we would totally have it otherwise.

Also, you seem very confused about how voting works in the US. I strongly suggest educating yourself.

 

[Mai72]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

LOL, really?

Why were illegals coming to America? Many were illegally coming here because of work. You know. The veggies, fruit and meat that you eat everyday. That we all eat daily. Big corporations were trucking them in by the masses so they could work the slave jobs that no one else wanted. And guess what? Those HUGE multibillion dollar companies are Republican donors. That's a fact.

I do admit that we have to do a better job at allowing and deporting people who want to live in this great country. The wall is a short term fix for a long term issue. In the end, that wall is going to be torn down anyway. We will get a liberal leaning Democrat and that wall is toast..

Trump voters are very weary of the future. Many don't like change and many are afraid of the changes that are bound to happen. I do know this. The world is a dynamic place. Either you adopt or you'll get left behind. It's your choice.

 

[Bowfinger]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

"Simple" being the operative word. Simple is why it sells so well to feeble-minded Trump fans. It has the ring of truthiness that makes it oh so tasty to people driven by feelings instead of facts.

Consider, for example, a woman murdered by her white husband. According to your "simple logic", if white males were not in the U.S., those aforementioned white males would not be able to murder our citizens. The jig, it's up.

Automobiles kill tens of thousands of American citizens each year. According to your "simple logic", if automobiles were not in the U.S., those Americans would still be alive. Just say no to cars! The jig, it's up?

Indeed, you can apply your "simple logic" to pretty much anyone or anything: police, priests, doctors, bathtubs. The list is endless.

But wait, you object. Those people and things have other, valuable purposes. They are net positives, doing more good than harm. Yes, exactly. And if you'd pull your head out of the bubble of right-wing propaganda, you'd learn the same is true of immigrants, even those here illegally. In fact, the per capita crime rate by immigrants, including illegal immigrants, is lower that that of native-born Americans. Remember that the next time you try to use simple logic to fix complex problems.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

In fact, the per capita crime rate by immigrants, including illegal immigrants, is lower that that of native-born Americans.

Leaving one to wonder how much, if any, that figure has been fudged.

However, it is important in highlighting one VERY critical point. If those illegals were other people, American citizens for example, they would still have a crime rate. All groups of people carry with them a crime rate. There will be violence, rapes, and murders. Regardless of who. So while this logic escapes the conservative bubble, I'd like to ask them anyway...

Why does it matter who does the crime? There's a crime-rate per population regardless. Can you prove that it's higher with illegals?

 

[Jhhnn]

Let the demonization begin!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I see Trump is just promoting his “bill of love” on immigration reform...

 

[Jaskalas]

Let the demonization begin!

It's a core principle for opposition to illegals, given life by a singular logical flaw.
Knock it down and their moral outrage either evaporates, or rings hollow.

Do not ignore the importance of the underlying argument. There's a core demographic that wants to use force on anyone who stops them from removing illegals from this country. We must seize all opportunities to cut them down to size and remove all tethers of support they may find. The "illegals coming to rape and murder your women" plays to a wide audience. We must counter the argument, hopefully bury it.

 

[bshole]

It's pretty simple logic which is why it's like a foreign language to the progressive left.

If [insert illegal here] was not in the U.S., the aforementioned illegal would not be able to murder one of our citizens. Plus, we would not have to shoulder the burden of a trial and incarceration. You want that high speed train? You might be able to have it if you had a lick of common sense. Instead, your bleeding heart is intent on the importation of warm bodies in hopes of getting their votes.

The jig, it's up.

I think if illegal immigrants were committing crime at a disproportionate rate, we would have noticed by now.

A March 2017 Cato Institute Immigration Research and Policy Brief employed a commonly used residual statistical methodology to analyze the incarcerated population in the U.S. Census for 2014. We found that illegal immigrants were about 44 percent less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans. I look forward to reviewing any methodology that the federal government comes up with but illegal immigrant criminals would have to be severely undercounted in prisons to give them an incarceration rate that even approaches native-born Americans.

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-repor...ty-reveals-little-admits-its-own-shortcomings

Lisa Christensen Gee, JD, Senior Policy Analyst, Matthew Gardner, Executive Director, and Meg Wiehe, MPA, State Tax Policy Director for the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) in a Feb. 2016 report, “Undocumented Immigrants’ State and Local Tax Contributions,” available at itep.org, stated:

"Undocumented immigrants contribute significantly to state and local taxes, collectively paying an estimated $11.64 billion a year. Contributions range from almost $2.2 million in Montana with an estimated undocumented population of 4,000 to more than $3.1 billion in California, home to more than 3 million undocumented immigrants.

Undocumented immigrants nationwide pay on average an estimated 8 percent of their incomes in state and local taxes (this is their effective state and local tax rate). To put this in perspective, the top 1 percent of taxpayers pay an average nationwide effective tax rate of just 5.4 percent.

 

[feralkid]

The jig, it's up.

The shit, it's your brains



.

 

[boomerang]

The part missing from your simple logic is how you actually get all the illegals out and how you actually stop more from coming in. A wall isn't going to stop them all. Probably won't even stop the majority. So without that piece of the puzzle, blaming Democrats for every crime committed by illegals is disingenuous at best.

Why put your form of moronic logic on display for everyone to see? We have treatments for many conditions and diseases. Not cures, treatments. Why are we spending even one dollar on something that will not cure a condition?

Air bags don't stop all injuries in car accidents why have them at all? I could go on and on and on with this but would you ever understand? It's not likely so there is no point. This "logic" that anything we do would not be 100% effective is moronic but I fully understand why it's a talking point disgorged by the left over and over.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think if illegal immigrants were committing crime at a disproportionate rate, we would have noticed by now.



https://www.cato.org/blog/new-repor...ty-reveals-little-admits-its-own-shortcomings

Facts have a liberal bias. That's why boomerang avoids them.

 

[interchange]

Why put your form of moronic logic on display for everyone to see? We have treatments for many conditions and diseases. Not cures, treatments. Why are we spending even one dollar on something that will not cure a condition?

Air bags don't stop all injuries in car accidents why have them at all? I could go on and on and on with this but would you ever understand? It's not likely so there is no point. This "logic" that anything we do would not be 100% effective is moronic but I fully understand why it's a talking point disgorged by the left over and over.

The fault in his reply is that he entertained yours as holding any shred of appropriateness. Looking at this video and trying to evaluate it on the grounds of immigration policy is despicable.

 

[Jhhnn]

The fault in his reply is that he entertained yours as holding any shred of appropriateness. Looking at this video and trying to evaluate it on the grounds of immigration policy is despicable.

Dickishness is a quality highly admired by conservatives. Witness their choice of President.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Why put your form of moronic logic on display for everyone to see? We have treatments for many conditions and diseases. Not cures, treatments. Why are we spending even one dollar on something that will not cure a condition?

Air bags don't stop all injuries in car accidents why have them at all? I could go on and on and on with this but would you ever understand? It's not likely so there is no point. This "logic" that anything we do would not be 100% effective is moronic but I fully understand why it's a talking point disgorged by the left over and over.

It’s not a treatment. It’s a bandaid you give a child when he has a booboo so he feels better and hopefully quits his fucking whining.

 

[trenchfoot]

Simple it is: You inject this imaginary boogeyman (immigrants, Muslims, commies, gays, baby killers, etc.) (*Nazis, racists and Russians excluded from the list, of course*) into the minds of the folks you want support from which then foments the fear and hate you want to fill their hearts and minds with. You then set yourself up as the fearless hero who will defeat this fairy tale monster you conjured up. Simple.

Works with gullible innocent "children" every time. Problem is you turn these "children" into the very monsters you used to scare them with.

Witness how the GOP and Trump used this ploy to such great effect and witness the results of their simple ploy in their voter base of monstrously damaged corrupted people.

 

[theeedude]

Now the real Republican party is coming out.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I give this a PL (Propaganda Level) of 6, mostly because it's so nakedly blunt and gloriously devoid of any supporting facts.

ALso..playground bully-style nicknames just come across as sad attempts to distract, redirect and avoid the problem.

 

[theeedude]

Standard Nazi style propaganda.

 

[BoomerD]

Right out of the Republican playbook...

That remind anyone else of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9KMSSEZ0Y