Trump's cultural intolerance in a nutshell

Commodus

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This encapsulates the ugly truth of Trump's hateful rhetoric better than just about anything else lately:

At an Iowa speech, Trump questions whether or not the US should "keep" people who aren't Christian conservatives.

It's important to note that he's pandering to the local base (and is more than a little hypocritical given his rampant cheating, greed and dishonesty with contractors), but the point still remains. This is the underlying concept behind the wall and the total ban on Muslims: it's not about those flimsy excuses of protecting the US from rapists or terrorists, it's about courting that subset of conservative Americans who are afraid of everyone who's not like them. Vote for me, I'll make the non-Christians/non-whites/gays/lefties go away!

I'd note that I'm not convinced that Trump is completely sincere whenever he behaves like this. Like everything he does in this campaign, this is really about pleasing whoever he happens to be speaking to at a given moment. Anything to stroke his ego and amass power. However, it's still pretty vile for him to entertain that hatred, and it shows that he doesn't have much of a backbone.
 

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He's just saying what he thinks people in Iowa want to hear... he's a typical politician and quite liberal by republican standards... we are screwed this election by two candidates of questionable moral character running for office... a testament to the gullibility of the american people to fall for Trump and vote for a known liar and criminal just because she's "democrat" and I use that term loosely when describing her. On the plus side if congress maintains republican control we'll have gridlock and gridlock is good because having either party with too much power just leads to stupidity.

I have more in common with democrats on many issues but can't stomach their anti-gun mentality so I have to vote republican or not vote at all. I'm a mixture of socialist on some issues and libertarian on others and both parties want to regulate too much of our personal lives for my liking. Plus as much as I support allowing anyone who can speak fluent english and prove they will be an asset to society to immigrate here and be citizens, I don't support importing third world and refugees in here like the globalist agenda seems to be right now. This thread on city-data comes to mind...

http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...hillary-campaign-says-entire-third-world.html
 
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Commodus

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He's just saying what he thinks people in Iowa want to hear... he's a typical politician and quite liberal by republican standards... we are screwed this election by two candidates of questionable moral character running for office... a testament to the gullibility of the american people to fall for Trump and vote for a known liar and criminal just because she's "democrat" and I use that term loosely when describing her. On the plus side if congress maintains republican control we'll have gridlock and gridlock is good because having either party with too much power just leads to stupidity.

I have more in common with democrats on many issues but can't stomach their anti-gun mentality so I have to vote republican or not vote at all. I'm a mixture of socialist on some issues and libertarian on others and both parties want to regulate too much of our personal lives for my liking. Plus as much as I support allowing anyone who can speak fluent english and prove they will be an asset to society to immigrate here and be citizens, I don't support importing third world and refugees in here like the globalist agenda seems to be right now. This thread on city-data comes to mind...

http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...hillary-campaign-says-entire-third-world.html

The problem is, Trump makes Clinton look like a saint by comparison. I'd rather have Sanders instead of Clinton, but Clinton at least understands the basics of how politics work, actually intends to lead (Trump will delegate most real responsibility to Pence), doesn't lie most of the time and stands on the right side of history when it comes to social issues.

And it's not as if the Dems will take extreme measures on guns... and doesn't the sonnet on the Statue of Liberty say something about giving the US your tired, your poor, your huddled masses? Please, please don't send the US down Trump's path simply because of a couple of sticking points that won't be as bad as you imagine.
 
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I'm more concerned about her clearly globalist leanings and the fact she supports the refugee program that many of the major globalist leaders in Europe have done supported by nutcases like Soros. I don't want millions of them being force fed in here only to have to support them via welfare.. it's amazing how this has already been going on behind our backs and how all state politicians seem to have a part in it. People with visas legally try to get in here and have to deal with hassle while refugees who can't even speak the language and have questionable criminal records get a free pass. I don't get our global leaders doing this.. they seem to have gone mad.
 

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I'm more concerned about her clearly globalist leanings and the fact she supports the refugee program that many of the major globalist leaders in Europe have done supported by nutcases like Soros. I don't want millions of them being force fed in here only to have to support them via welfare.. it's amazing how this has already been going on behind our backs and how all state politicians seem to have a part in it. People with visas legally try to get in here and have to deal with hassle while refugees who can't even speak the language and have questionable criminal records get a free pass. I don't get our global leaders doing this.. they seem to have gone mad.

So what you are saying is that you are a low info information voter. Got it.
 

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I was going to vote for Sanders because I thought that even though I think a lot of his politics are crap he at least honestly believed what he was saying and I agreed with the thrust of his direction. I don't get that impression from either current candidates. Both really came off as disturbingly smug during the debates in their own bizarre way. I voted for Obama the first time he ran but I voted for green party next election when it became clear he wasn't going to shake things up like I was hoping he would. His healthcare reform was a step in the right direction but it was poorly executed IMO and allowed states to weasel out of its requirements. I'm actually very liberal on most issues outside of guns. I loved Hillary's term "trumped up trickle down"; everybody got a hoot out of it at the dinner table. Trump's statements on nuclear weapons seems to indicate to me that he's completely unqualified to control them. I think that he'd delegate most of his responsibilities to Pence as well whom I know nothing about other than that he's a mainstream republican, so I disagree with him on most social and economic issues.
 
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He's just saying what he thinks people in Iowa want to hear... he's a typical politician and quite liberal by republican standards...

Actually, I find him to be an atypical politician, which probably explains his appeal. He's like most politicians, but distilled down to their essence - his lies, pandering, and flip-flopping are SO obvious, it's practically a kind of honesty. With Hilary, you know some of the things she says are true, but some are also false, and you're left having to separate the truth from the lies. With Trump, he's clearly a charlatan, but he's so obvious about it, you're not left wondering which parts are the lies - they all are! I think even Trump may be surprised this stuff worked this long and this far. It should really make you wonder about the future of democracy, honestly.
 

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I'm more concerned about her clearly globalist leanings and the fact she supports the refugee program that many of the major globalist leaders in Europe have done supported by nutcases like Soros. I don't want millions of them being force fed in here only to have to support them via welfare.. it's amazing how this has already been going on behind our backs and how all state politicians seem to have a part in it. People with visas legally try to get in here and have to deal with hassle while refugees who can't even speak the language and have questionable criminal records get a free pass. I don't get our global leaders doing this.. they seem to have gone mad.



You do understand what a refugee is, right?

They are people of every walk of life...Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, Cops and Firefighters. Chemists, Physicists, Students, Musicians, Writers, Poets and Priests...Men, Women and Children forced to flee their homes, all fearing almost certain death, due to circumstances beyond their control.
 

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He's just saying what he thinks people in Iowa want to hear... he's a typical politician and quite liberal by republican standards... we are screwed this election by two candidates of questionable moral character running for office... a testament to the gullibility of the american people to fall for Trump and vote for a known liar and criminal just because she's "democrat" and I use that term loosely when describing her. On the plus side if congress maintains republican control we'll have gridlock and gridlock is good because having either party with too much power just leads to stupidity.

I have more in common with democrats on many issues but can't stomach their anti-gun mentality so I have to vote republican or not vote at all. I'm a mixture of socialist on some issues and libertarian on others and both parties want to regulate too much of our personal lives for my liking. Plus as much as I support allowing anyone who can speak fluent english and prove they will be an asset to society to immigrate here and be citizens, I don't support importing third world and refugees in here like the globalist agenda seems to be right now. This thread on city-data comes to mind...

http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...hillary-campaign-says-entire-third-world.html

Hillary is a known criminal? I had no idea.

lol @ : "I have more in common with democrats, but because GUNS!, I must only vote republican!"

single issue nonsense.