Trump's Body Count

[GoPackGo]

Is anyone keeping track of Trump's Body Count?

Detainees dying in US custody
Ukrainians killed because of the delay in aid
Syrian Kurds
Flight shot down by Iran due to escalations caused by Trump
Trump doing nothing about all of the mass shootings

It is definitely in the hundreds perhaps into the thousands.

 

[Greenman]

Kurds are the only one where Trump has any culpability.

 

[ShookKnight]

I'll just use the same 'logic' conservatives used when they complied Clinton's kill list and mix in some Trump-verbiage...

Lots and lots of people. An unbelievable amount - ask anybody and they will tell you. It's a huge number. Also, I heard - I don't know, but I heard that Epstein was murdered by Trump as well. That's what people are saying.

 

[Moonbeam]

Kurds are the only one where Trump has any culpability.

Don’t know how you can say that. How can you blame an ignoramus for anything since by the trajectory of his live and his inborn capacities he could be nothing else.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Kurds are the only one where Trump has any culpability.

As the CIC he gets culpability to some extent in all of 'em.

I'd also argue that some percentage of the dead from Puerto Rico can be lain at his feet, if it's able to be determined that it was due to his inaction from after the hurricane.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Kurds are the only one where Trump has any culpability.

R president, different standards

 

[brycejones]

culpability

You don't appear to understand the meaning of this word.

 

[tweaker2]

Cheney and his merry band of neocon war mongers felt that untold thousands of lives needed to be sacrificed for the good of a few very wealthy individuals and there were no moral or ethical problems to be had with it because "it was just business as usual you see?"

Trump has the same attitude and has made that attitude known from his word and deed over and over again. The problem with that is he has millions of followers who don't really care that their own children and loved ones need to sacrificed at the Alter of the Oligarchs in order for their Chosen One and his fellow plutocrats to be entrenched at the top tiers of gov't. These willfully ignorant serfs have somehow been convinced that their security and prosperity have been assured with that particular kind of leadership in charge.

History thus repeats because the gullible, lazy weaker minds are so easy to manipulate.

Ask Trump, he knows this so well and he and the Repub leadership has taken full advantage of it.

 

[HomerJS]

Kurds are the only one where Trump has any culpability.

How can you absolve Trump from creating a climate in Iraq where the mistake of shooting down a passenger jet could happen?

There is a requirement of an imminent threat for Trump to take his action and it has been shown that level of threat did not exist.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Iran shoots down a civilian airliner.

It's Trumps fault!

Oh yeah.

 

[pmv]

Without employing Benghazi-logic, I'd put his responsibility for the air disaster at greater than zero, less than 50%. It seems like it's largely down to Iranian military incompetence. But that incompetence was fairly predictable and already known, so Trump should have been aware of the likelihood of such an outcome when starting this. There was an obviously significant chance that something similarly awful would result, whether completely deliberate or partly-accidental.

A difficulty with working out a body-count is that deciding on Trump's personal responsibility for the ultimate tally for climate-change is probably impossible to calculate.

 

[Bitek]

Both Trump and Bush are spoiled little rich boys with love me Daddy complexes.

While Trump is even more incompetent and ineffective, the saving grace is that he's also a draft dodging pu$$y, so will likely never top Bush's body count of several hundred thousand killed due to the Iraq fuckup unless this Iran or NK situation goes way out of control.

Trump may kill more domestically through administrative incompetence, but between 9/11 and Katrina, Bush's body count will likely be tops if Trump is limited to one term.

 

[pauldun170]

Trump is continuing the tradition of the past couple of presidents for being responsible for every dead or injured serviceman in the middle east. That also includes every civilian killed by a US soldier, contractor or "Ally\Coalition partner" contributing to whatever US led effort is underway. That also includes deaths or injuries related to US sanctions and efforts to destabilize countries through the direct and indirect support of various militias.
He is also responsible for any deaths of US citizens that are a direct result of his policies or due to the actions of agencies in the executive branch.

That's just the way it works.

 

[soulcougher73]

Don't forget all the dead from mass shootings in the US he enables with his rhetoric.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

One could attempt to employ a "last grain of rice" cost-benefit-analysis strategy. Some could say it's biased for the nit-picking, but consider just one example -- IF -- IF -- you could detect it, collect data and do a statistical analysis.

Getting slapped in the face daily by Trump while watching the news COULD be considered a matter of choice, but if your habits don't differ between administrations, perhaps this is worth considering. Has it had an impact on your mental and physical health? Has it had such an impact on any number of citizens? If the answer is "yes", then it has also had an effect on life-spans. Or on medical expenses. (Would the health insurers be interested in that? Would they advise you NOT to watch TV?)

Of course, in addition to "body counts", you have the entire federal workforce thrown into total short-term financial insecurity when Trump pulled his stunt of attempting to extort congress over his border funding and leaving people to work without pay. Add to that the costs -- if you could identify them in dollars -- of trauma to kids separated from parents at the border -- some several thousand of them.

None of these lesser things -- exclusive to domestic life in the good ol' USA -- should be denied, since we're already looking at mass-shootings and other phenomena.