Trumpanzee gets stripped of Pageant Title

[brycejones]

She is way to old. Trump isn’t into her anyway so no help from him.

 

[interchange]

If those 2 tweets are the reason for stripping her of the title, then I don't support it. That's expression of narrow-minded viewpoints, not political activity IMO.

 

[pmv]

If those 2 tweets are the reason for stripping her of the title, then I don't support it. That's expression of narrow-minded viewpoints, not political activity IMO.

But on what basis is such a title awarded in the first place? Is this not similar to booting people off a privately-owned forum?

I sympathise a little bit because as much as I disagree with her those views are not uncommon. She didn't endorse Hilter or something. But isn't this a privately run competition and hence they can set whatever rules they wish about such things?

 

[HomerJS]

Beauty pageant winner with a hideously ugly interior.

 

[dainthomas]

shes not ugly but not seeing why she was the top dog in michigan?

Least pointy elbows?

But trumpers are up there with smokers for me. Hard pass.

 

[fskimospy]

Person applying for public relations job says bad public relations things and doesn’t get the job.

Shocker.

 

[interchange]

But on what basis is such a title awarded in the first place? Is this not similar to booting people off a privately-owned forum?

I sympathise a little bit because as much as I disagree with her those views are not uncommon. She didn't endorse Hilter or something. But isn't this a privately run competition and hence they can set whatever rules they wish about such things?

I said I didn't support it. I do support their right to choose otherwise.

 

[Moonbeam]

Two things, and I'll address the easier first: If you have to put a racist disclaimer on your statement, there's a fair chance it is, and a virtual 100% chance it's a bad idea to post.

Second most "black deaths," are due to medical causes, except for Black Males from 15-34 where homicide is the leading cause. If we apply our idiot autocorrect, and infer that she meant most black homicide is committed by other black individuals, there's actually pretty good evidence that is true. But, most white homicide is committed by white individuals (though the odds of being a homicide victim are significantly lower if you're white.) It doesn't really prove much about which community needs to fix itself.

The bigger thing that those stats don't address, is what is the actual cause of the homicide? While not absolving the murderers at all, who or what creates/perpetuates the conditions that fuel the much higher murder rates among young black men? I'd argue that is as much a cause as the individual the actually commits the crime.

This post stood out to me in a way I find as admirably logical and well written and tightly focused, something I view as appropriate counter speech to her myopic speech.

Sadly, we are living in a time when the speech of some drives others crazy and in a way that provokes them to want to silence others from being able to speak at all. I attribute this to the existence of authoritarianism on both sides. Thanks for being old school and answering speech with better speech rather than contemptuousness that some even are allowed to exist.

Now were I a real authoritarian, myself, about this, my belief, I would demand that anybody who objects to the fact that others have voice should be thrown out of the country. Such people are un-American and don't deserve citizenship.

 

[Viper1j]

If those 2 tweets are the reason for stripping her of the title, then I don't support it. That's expression of narrow-minded viewpoints, not political activity IMO.

You do know that almost all pageants at that level (state, national) have codes of conduct and "morals" clauses in them, don't you?

Three years ago, Miss Virginia had her crown stripped from her, after it was discovered that she had made a sex tape. And her reign was almost up. She had held the crown for nine months.

 

[interchange]

You do know that almost all pageants at that level (state, national) have codes of conduct and "morals" clauses in them, don't you?

Three years ago, Miss Virginia had her crown stripped from her, after it was discovered that she had made a sex tape. And her reign was almost up. She had held the crown for nine months.

Again, they have the right to decide how they want to do things, and I think moral judgments are an important part of pageantry. And I think the quoted tweets are far too mainstream conservative viewpoints and don't involve any specific call to action or flaming. The actual views I don't support at all, but I think this is an example of taking a political position in stripping her title. I don't find that productive, and I'd also much rather have a society where someone who has disagreeable views but is interacting peaceably with those who think differently to be supported in their expression and openly and peaceably debated in kind.

 

[Viper1j]

Miss Virginia was acting in a totally nonpolitical, personal capacity, when she was doing double penetration on that video. There was no statement, just a girl that wanted to have fun. (And yes, the video is available on porn hub.)

Yet, she was still stripped from her title.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Miss Virginia was acting in a totally nonpolitical, personal capacity, when she was doing double penetration on that video. There was no statement, just a girl that wanted to have fun. (And yes, the video is available on porn hub.)

Yet, she was still stripped from her title.

Okay, so she was acting political, who cares? The problem is that acting politically one way is fine and dandy, while the other is immediately shunned. That's a problem detective dipshit.

If they can quote in their own rules where she disobeyed - thats absolutely fine then. The problem is - they cant. Because their actions were clearly partisan bullshit.

 

[dainthomas]

Okay, so she was acting political, who cares? The problem is that acting politically one way is fine and dandy, while the other is immediately shunned. That's a problem detective dipshit.

If they say it violates their religious beliefs is it okay? My god says that trumpers get reincarnated as tape worms.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

If they say it violates their religious beliefs is it okay? My god says that trumpers get reincarnated as tape worms.

As long as they state that in their rules ahead of time - absolutely.

 

[fskimospy]

Okay, so she was acting political, who cares? The problem is that acting politically one way is fine and dandy, while the other is immediately shunned. That's a problem detective dipshit.

If they can quote in their own rules where she disobeyed - thats absolutely fine then. The problem is - they cant. Because their actions were clearly partisan bullshit.

There are plenty of liberal opinions that would have gotten her shunned too. I suspect if she had tweets calling for the boycott of Israel she would have gotten the boot as well, for example. You guys aren’t being picked on, the standard is the standard.

She’s free to speak her mind and they are free to hold her accountable for that.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

There are plenty of liberal opinions that would have gotten her shunned too. I suspect if she had tweets calling for the boycott of Israel she would have gotten the boot as well, for example. You guys aren’t being picked on, the standard is the standard.

She’s free to speak her mind and they are free to hold her accountable for that.

Bull-fucking-shit. She could have said the most liberal-yuppie-retarded statements of all times like "Open borders for all!" and the only thing it would result in is a a round of applause from the plenty of other low-IQ brow-beating sea of seals that are in this type of industry.

Not being against jews isn't exactly a republican or democrat thing either - it's a "not being a piece of shit person" kind of thing.

 

[feralkid]

I don't agree with her tweets, but nothing in there bad enough to justify removing her title. People are way too sensitive these days, and yet they seem to seek out things to be offended at, so they can pretend to be outraged.

Nope. People are not "way too sensitive these days".

People are standing up for what is right, and are sick of toxic assholes spewing their acrid bile upon the world without facing any consequences.
It's about time.

 

[fskimospy]

Bull-fucking-shit. She could have said the most liberal-yuppie-retarded statements of all times like "Open borders for all!" and the only thing it would result in is a a round of applause from the plenty of other low-IQ brow-beating sea of seals that are in this type of industry.

Not being against jews isn't exactly a republican or democrat thing either - it's a "not being a piece of shit person" kind of thing.

You’re being ridiculous, this is the conservative persecution complex in action. Nobody is persecuting you, you’re just not getting special treatment.

Open borders is simply a policy decision. Do you think if she had said ‘tax cuts for all!’ she would have lost her spot? Of course not. She made a stupid, ignorant post of a point frequently repeated by white nationalists and the pageant didn’t want to associate with it. (The fact that most black people are murdered by other black people is entirely irrelevant as that is true for every race.)

Also, being against Israeli policy and wanting to boycott them over it isn’t being against Jews. This is a frequent lie told by conservatives to try and deligitimize criticism of Israel.

 

[DrDoug]

I think the quoted tweets are far too mainstream conservative viewpoints

While they may be mainstream conservative viewpoints that doesn't mean that anyone that holds them has the right to state them openly without consequences. Nor does it mean that private entities have to tolerate them.

If I ran the show I would have kicked her to the curb too.

 

[DrDoug]

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Also, being against Israeli policy and wanting to boycott them over it isn’t being against Jews. This is a frequent lie told by conservatives to try and deligitimize criticism of Israel.

It seems that polling backs you up on that...

 

[sdifox]

shes not ugly but not seeing why she was the top dog in michigan?

She didn't drink Michigan water.

 

[feralkid]

Bull-fucking-shit. She could have said the most liberal-yuppie-retarded statements of all times like "Open borders for all!" and the only thing it would result in is a a round of applause from the plenty of other low-IQ brow-beating sea of seals that are in this type of industry.

Not being against jews isn't exactly a republican or democrat thing either - it's a "not being a piece of shit person" kind of thing.

"Brow-beating" doesn't mean what you think it does.

 

[Lanyap]

shes not ugly but not seeing why she was the top dog in michigan?

Because diversity? Because minority?

 

[brandonbull]

"Brow-beating" doesn't mean what you think it does.

Research the definition of "brow beating". "Doesn't mean what you think it does" and "Pro tip" seem to be famous last words of morons.

 

[Lanyap]

There are plenty of liberal opinions that would have gotten her shunned too. I suspect if she had tweets calling for the boycott of Israel she would have gotten the boot as well, for example. You guys aren’t being picked on, the standard is the standard.

She’s free to speak her mind and they are free to hold her accountable for that.

Do you have any examples where a beauty pageant winner was stripped of her title because of “liberal” views?