Trumpanzee attacks

[KMFJD]

Just like the guy that kicked black people out of the restaurant for being black because Trump is the president and he doesn't have to be tolerant any longer now we have this...


http://abc7ny.com/news/man-allegedly-assaults-muslim-delta-employee-at-jfk/1723206/

Officials say that Robin Rhodes, 57, of Worchester, was in the Delta Sky Lounge in Terminal 2 when he began threatening Delta employee Rabeeya Khan.

Khan, who was wearing a hijab, was sitting in her office in the lounge when Rhodes came to her door and stated, "Are you (expletive) sleeping? Are you praying? What are you doing?"

He allegedly punched her door, which then hit the back of Khan's chair. After asking Rhodes what she did to him, he replied "You did nothing but I am going to kick your (expletive)."

Rhodes then reportedly followed her and began to imitate a Muslim prayer while shouting "(Expletive) Islam, (Expletive) ISIS, Trump is here now. He will get rid of all of you. You can ask Germany, Belgium and France about these kind of people. You will see what happens."

Not to be outdone, some liberal (?) went out and punched that douchebag Richard Spencer again

 

[Starbuck1975]

So we have two great examples of angry and irrational people behaving in an uncivil and unAmerican way, and now we can debate which side is worst or does it "more".

Mr Rhodes was wrong and is an @sshole for assaulting the woman wearing the hijab.

The protestor is a cowardly and deplorable person for sucker punching Spencer.

Spencer is a deplorable person for being a white nationalist, but in this country his has a right to be so. Some fool is going to make him a martyr, and I think that is what he wants.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Why did you edit to add the Richard Spencer part? Trying to be "Fair and balanced"?

 

[MongGrel]

Why did you edit to add the Richard Spencer part? Trying to be "Fair and balanced"?

He was probably trying to stave off the Trumspster defensive reaction, which is impossible of course.

The knees in here are jerking already.

 

[Starbuck1975]

He was probably trying to stave off the Trumspster defensive reaction, which is impossible of course.

The knees in here are jerking already.

Well if everyone was intellectually honest and balanced, it wouldn't evoke a response.

The problem is that social and political discourse has become like professional sports. Elections have become the Superbowl.

 

[MongGrel]

Well if everyone was intellectually honest and balanced, it wouldn't evoke a response.

The problem is that social and political discourse has become like professional sports. Elections have become the Superbowl.

The problem is some people seem to think lacking any moral compass in any situation is a norm anywhere these days.

There is not a new mandate to be irrational that I'm aware of.

 

[KMFJD]

Why did you edit to add the Richard Spencer part? Trying to be "Fair and balanced"?

Yeah, because that's the response we would get, and they are right, both sides have been violent and it's not doing either side any good, plus i wanted to include a picture of the dickhead getting punched.

 

[K1052]

The problem is some people seem to think lacking any moral compass in any situation is a norm anywhere these days.

There is not a new mandate to be irrational that I'm aware of.

Morality, logic, facts, and common decency were KIA during the last election. This is what we have now.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Problem right now is more people want to talk about how bad the "other side" is in some stupid one up contest. No one wants to talk about fixing the issues. It's liberal things. Right wing that. Both in forums like this and with politicians and pundits.

How about we cast away the labels to try and shame those we disagree with and start actually finding common ground to build on?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

He was probably trying to stave off the Trumspster defensive reaction, which is impossible of course.

The knees in here are jerking already.

I offer a non violent option. Someone stand around and the jump and yell "Spagett!!!"

No more a silly approach than any other and make as much sense as anything else involving politics.

 

[IronWing]

Yeah, because that's the response we would get, and they are right, both sides have been violent and it's not doing either side any good, plus i wanted to include a picture of the dickhead getting punched.

This one?

 

[KMFJD]

This one?

Yeah that one, it's a beauty....

/i think it's from the same protest where he got sucker punched the first time...

 

[MongGrel]

I offer a non violent option. Someone stand around and the jump and yell "Spagett!!!"

No more a silly approach than any other and make as much sense as anything else involving politics.

You spelled Spaghetti wrong, you pasta heathen.

No need to correct me, I got it.

"violently hurls a meatball"

 

[MajinCry]

I'm a'ight with Nazis getting fucked up.

 

[kage69]

I am disappointed when people resort to violence where discussion is called for.

Having said that, the lack of civility, decency and respect for other Americans, as well as long term encouragement of violence towards other views, was proudly promoted by Donald Dump and his followers.

I have no sympathy for their crying about it now.

 

[K1052]

n/m

 

[Ackmed]

I am disappointed when people resort to violence where discussion is called for.

Having said that, , was proudly promoted by Donald Dump and his followers.

I have no sympathy for their crying about it now.

Because anti Trump people haven't acted exactly as you've said? "the lack of civility, decency and respect for other Americans, as well as long term encouragement of violence towards other views" has been showed by anti Trump people many times. But you have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Trump "crying" when getting attacked shows your character, or lack of. You are part of the problem. The thought that some people deserve bad things happening to them, or the lack of compassion when it does just because they voted one way or the other is wrong. You and others giving the ok for assaults to happen because it's against some people you don't agree with is wrong

Like others have said, we've gotten into a bad habit of left vs right, us vs them. When any acts like that above should not be tolerated. Not given a pass because your side commented them to people you think deserve it.

We can play the one up game all day long. Both sides have people who commit acts against others that should never happen. Both sides have people who make the whole look bad.

Oh look, anti Trump supporters spit on, pushed, vandalized a gold star family. Which was barely given any media attention. Sure wasn't a topic made here about it either. OP didn't rush to post that story calling them names in the title. Which isn't really a surprise given how most the media and this forum leans. I can find another act of the right treating the left wrong, then back the other way. It does no good going back and forth. The one sided posting of topics here is telling though

 

[Jaskalas]

Civil discourse is breaking down, I get it. Do we cheer it on or find another way?
You'll discover most of it stems from two things.

• Economic suffering.
• Media slandering the "other".

An example of what the second point is. September 11th defined Islam for many Americans. Every day after the media reports of violence and conflicts with Muslims. This defines them in the public eye. It defines a "war" with "them". Similar stereotyping is used against other groups of people all the time. The bad guys make the news... the good guys do not exist. Out of sight out of mind.

Groups stereotyped by others will suffer hate crimes until a message more powerful than the original (confirmation bias) is shared by good people looking to end the stereotyping and growing conflict(s) it causes. In this case Muslim-Americans are not treated as Americans until we embrace them as such, and display it in such a way that ALL Americans can see it as such. It takes a powerful campaign to undo the damage done by media messaging.

To recap, economics = nothing to lose, media stereotyping = target. That's this sort of violence in a nutshell.

 

[brandonbull]

I'm a'ight with Nazis getting fucked up.

And Hillary losing the election was a great start.

 

[MajinCry]

And Hillary losing the election was a great start.

It's a shame that you had to elect a racist, sexist, rapacious, sex-slaver-afficianado to the White House. That's not a step forward. Same place, different shoes.

 

[brandonbull]

you mean the racist Trump that received an award from Jessie Jackson or the racist Hillary that called blacks super predators, voted for the Wall in 2006 to keep out them illegals, the Hillary that seemed to not like same sex marriage, or the Hillary that can get gas from Mahatma Gandhi's gas station?

 

[Thebobo]

I'm a'ight with Nazis getting fucked up.

Yea and after all January is National Punch a Nazi Month.

 

[kage69]

Because anti Trump people haven't acted exactly as you've said?

No, I didn't say that.

"the lack of civility, decency and respect for other Americans, as well as long term encouragement of violence towards other views" has been showed by anti Trump people many times.

Fringe elements, and nothing I condone. On the Trump side it's practically been official campaign policy. If you've heard of people like Hillary or Bernie or anyone encouraging violence towards others of different political views, by all means, link that shit up snowflake!

But you have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Trump "crying" when getting attacked shows your character, or lack of.

I have no sympathy for crocodile tears, and I couldn't care less what someone like you thinks of it. If that offends your sensitivities, well, tough shit.

You are part of the problem.

Hahahaha, oh you. I'm not the one encouraging violence over politics, or supporting mentally ill fascists. *pats head* There there ackmed,

The thought that some people deserve bad things happening to them, or the lack of compassion when it does just because they voted one way or the other is wrong. You and others giving the ok for assaults to happen because it's against some people you don't agree with is wrong

This is why you are a clown. Lack of sympathy != support

Here's an idea - why don't you have a little compassion for the stated opinions of others and deal with them as is instead of letting your delicate feelings lead you down the path of false attribution?

Like others have said, we've gotten into a bad habit of left vs right, us vs them. When any acts like that above should not be tolerated. Not given a pass because your side commented them to people you think deserve it.

Again, try speaking for yourself. Also, some background information would drastically improve your credibility here. Read: I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican and will call out hypocrisy and bullshit where I see it. If you disagree with that, again, tough shit.

We can play the one up game all day long. Both sides have people who commit acts against others that should never happen. Both sides have people who make the whole look bad.

Oh look, anti Trump supporters spit on, pushed, vandalized a gold star family. Which was barely given any media attention. Sure wasn't a topic made here about it either. OP didn't rush to post that story calling them names in the title. Which isn't really a surprise given how most the media and this forum leans. I can find another act of the right treating the left wrong, then back the other way. It does no good going back and forth. The one sided posting of topics here is telling though

Your misplaced assumption-ladden rant is duly noted and summarily dismissed. Glad you've deduced something telling from your butthurt, we all need a hobby.

 

[zinfamous]

So we have two great examples of angry and irrational people behaving in an uncivil and unAmerican way, and now we can debate which side is worst or does it "more".

Mr Rhodes was wrong and is an @sshole for assaulting the woman wearing the hijab.

The protestor is a cowardly and deplorable person for sucker punching Spencer.

Spencer is a deplorable person for being a white nationalist, but in this country his has a right to be so. Some fool is going to make him a martyr, and I think that is what he wants.

Difference between these two cases/people: what was the muslim Delta employee doing to instigate the anger/assault/violence from the redneck Trump supporter?

I think it would be very much relevant to distinguish between violence directed against real instigation (not that I condone it), and violence directed against people just, well, being alive. Or are we just going to keep dancing down False Equivalence avenue for the next 4 years?

 

[agent00f]

Surely Fake News since leftards are the Real racists, not the guys always looking for some way to put low status browns in their place.