Trump yet again credibly accused of rape

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ch33zw1z

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IMO, this is a much different situation than trump had faced previously. While I won’t get my hopes up, I think this situation is going to not just fall to the wayside like the thousands of other court cases he’s been involved with. Gubbermint dont play that with the stuff he’s indicted on.
 
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It seems awfully relevant that he's currently in the process of 'not getting away with it'.

It's still an open question as to what he's gotten away with.

There are, in fact, so many open questions right now that I kind of wish I could hibernate or go into suspended animation Futurama-style, till we have answers for them.
 
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fskimospy

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Both points seem relevant to me. While it is very encouraging that Trump may be about to go down on criminal charges, there is no question in my mind that he has, via his money, lived a charmed illegal life. I don't know how to fix the broken system that created him but I feel something about it needs fixing. It seems that with enough money, enough high powered lawyers, enough tolerance in the system, a person can get away with things everyday people can't. Even a simpleton can feel the injustice in that if I may speak as one of them.
He absolutely is a lifelong criminal who up to this point has faced shockingly little accountability.

I think the clearest example of this is with Trump SoHo where Trump's kids were extremely likely to be indicted for fraud until Trump bribed the DA.

That's when he could fly under the radar in a legal sense though because there was no particular benefit for prosecutors to go after him (outside of doing their job right). That is, to put it lightly, no longer the case.
 
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Moonbeam

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He absolutely is a lifelong criminal who up to this point has faced shockingly little accountability.

I think the clearest example of this is with Trump SoHo where Trump's kids were extremely likely to be indicted for fraud until Trump bribed the DA.

That's when he could fly under the radar in a legal sense though because there was no particular benefit for prosecutors to go after him (outside of doing their job right). That is, to put it lightly, no longer the case.
Interesting. When I wrote this sentence, "It seems that with enough money, enough high powered lawyers, enough tolerance in the system, a person can get away with things everyday people can't.", I was going to add prosecutorial apathy as an additional factor but left it out as my personal opinions as to the proper deliniation of detail creates a grammatical style that seems a burden to many people.
 

fskimospy

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Interesting. When I wrote this sentence, "It seems that with enough money, enough high powered lawyers, enough tolerance in the system, a person can get away with things everyday people can't.", I was going to add prosecutorial apathy as an additional factor but left it out as my personal opinions as to the proper deliniation of detail creates a grammatical style that seems a burden to many people.
Well in the case of Trump SoHo it seems that basically Vance was going to indict his kids but then Trump bribed him so corruption more than apathy.
 
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Well in the case of Trump SoHo it seems that basically Vance was going to indict his kids but then Trump bribed him so corruption more than apathy.
I was referring more to where you said, "That's when he could fly under the radar in a legal sense though because there was no particular benefit for prosecutors to go after him (outside of doing their job right)." It's prosecution not doing their jobs that I was referring to as apathy. Perhaps, though, I did not understand your intent.
 

fskimospy

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I was referring more to where you said, "That's when he could fly under the radar in a legal sense though because there was no particular benefit for prosecutors to go after him (outside of doing their job right)." It's prosecution not doing their jobs that I was referring to as apathy. Perhaps, though, I did not understand your intent.
Oh yes, I'm sure in other cases it was apathy as he was more trouble than he was worth, I thought you were referring to my specific example which was corruption.

Anyway, I think we agree.
 

Moonbeam

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Oh yes, I'm sure in other cases it was apathy as he was more trouble than he was worth, I thought you were referring to my specific example which was corruption.

Anyway, I think we agree.
Agreed. It was the first part about the SoHo business that I found interesting because I didn't know about it, and the second part about prosecutors not doing their job that reminded me that I had thought the same but didn't mention it the first time around. Also, in a different way, I also think it's a kind of corruption too. I think our culture produces so much insecurity that only very strong people will put skin in the game. People keeping their heads down, in my opinion, is typical of people who fear conflict.
 

skyking

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The significant matter for me is I believe this is his first foray into criminal court. All of his other business has been civil, where he can buy his way out of it.
 
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hal2kilo

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Well in the case of Trump SoHo it seems that basically Vance was going to indict his kids but then Trump bribed him so corruption more than apathy.
How was Vance bribed. Any link? Just don't remember this.
Edit: I guess this is what you are referring to.

 
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JEDI

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The significant matter for me is I believe this is his first foray into criminal court. All of his other business has been civil, where he can buy his way out of it.
Thought this rape case was civil? Hence all the $ he owed her?