shortylickens
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So like Napoleon before him, Trump plans to lose the battle of Waterloo?
Solution is if you are going to require the plant stay open know what else should be required?So the solution is to shut down all food processing? does something make you think that would be better than the pandemic?
How many meals are you willing to skip to keep those workers safe? Lets assume our overall food supply is reduced by 50%, can we count on you to reduce your food intake by 50% for as long as the pandemic lasts? This is your chance to be a real hero, to stand up for the things you believe in.Solution is if you are going to require the plant stay open know what else should be required?
Proper PPE
regular testing of every employee Minimum daily.
Proper distancing based on CDC guidelines.
Staff rotated more often
None of that was mandated. Basically Trump is sacrificing the workers to keep his burgers.
What about the workers families? You know they spend most of their time at home.
I'll answer the question this way.How many meals are you willing to skip to keep those workers safe? Lets assume our overall food supply is reduced by 50%, can we count on you to reduce your food intake by 50% for as long as the pandemic lasts? This is your chance to be a real hero, to stand up for the things you believe in.
Testing daily may be possible. Distancing may not be possible without rebuilding the facility. Staff rotated more often increases exposure, I don't see the logic in that one.
Why is removing at risk individuals not a viable approach? We know people that are already sick have a much greater chance of dying from covid19, so lets remove those folks from the workforce. This seems like the simplest approach with the best outcome. Healthy people rarely die from covid19, that's not a Trump fact, it's not speculation or wishful thinking, it's proven beyond doubt, so lets use that information. Lets put healthy people into our food production industry and eliminate potential shortages while keeping at risk individuals insulated from exposure.
With proper testing and guidelines I dont think they will be at more risc than anybody else.
Mandatory morning testing for all. Something like that.
It would cost money and cause his burger to cost $.01 more.How about fucking testing? What's your excuse for not doing that??
I tthink it needs to be understood that they're at higher risk simply because of their work environment. There are a lot of people in a relatively crowded environment. They share common areas like break rooms & locker rooms. You can't eat lunch wearing a mask or just stay at your work station to do it. Most of the areas in a packing plant are kept quite cool, 53F, to inhibit the growth of bacterial pathogens. Some areas are even colder. They're naturally humid. That all promotes virus survival. The one big positive is that they're cleaned & disinfected quite often. Similar yet varying conditions exist in all sorts of food processing facilities. Everything we buy at the Grocer is processed to some degree or another & handled by multiple people on the path from the earth to our mouths. It's absolutely necessary that the work continue.
How many meals are you willing to skip to keep those workers safe? Lets assume our overall food supply is reduced by 50%, can we count on you to reduce your food intake by 50% for as long as the pandemic lasts? This is your chance to be a real hero, to stand up for the things you believe in.
Testing daily may be possible. Distancing may not be possible without rebuilding the facility. Staff rotated more often increases exposure, I don't see the logic in that one.
Why is removing at risk individuals not a viable approach? We know people that are already sick have a much greater chance of dying from covid19, so lets remove those folks from the workforce. This seems like the simplest approach with the best outcome. Healthy people rarely die from covid19, that's not a Trump fact, it's not speculation or wishful thinking, it's proven beyond doubt, so lets use that information. Lets put healthy people into our food production industry and eliminate potential shortages while keeping at risk individuals insulated from exposure.
Typically 2 shifts with a 3rd shift that sanitizes the line and equipment.I don't know if these plants typcially run 24 hours a day, but if not, split the workers into groups. Half on a day shift, half on a graveyard, process half as much in each shift and then you could at least double the space in between them without affecting production. Of course they'd have to pay extra to get people on graveyard and you know profit is much more important that human life, so I guess forget I said anything?
No issue with testing, but if you have a healthy work force at those facility's it isn't critical. That leaves those resources available to others. Healthy people rarely die from covid19. Why is that so hard to understand? If your sick or old, stay home. Everyone else wears a mask and washes their hands. We know who dies and we know who doesn't, so why put sick people at risk at all? This is all I'm saying, it's not political, it's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's a simple short term solution to a problem we have right now.I'll answer the question this way.
How many human lives are you willing to sacrifice in order to get your daily dose of burgers?
Just put the fucking safety requirements in place. I can eat less meat during the week if that's what it takes.
How about fucking testing? What's your excuse for not doing that??
I am sure these places are trying to hire get your ass over there if it’s so great.No issue with testing, but if you have a healthy work force at those facility's it isn't critical. That leaves those resources available to others. Healthy people rarely die from covid19. Why is that so hard to understand? If your sick or old, stay home. Everyone else wears a mask and washes their hands. We know who dies and we know who doesn't, so why put sick people at risk at all? This is all I'm saying, it's not political, it's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's a simple short term solution to a problem we have right now.
I understand that you want to be angry at Trump, you want to blame him for the pandemic, but we don't have to create critical situations to do that, there are plenty of those available all across the country. Lets leave food production out of.
LoL yall are fkn funny guys. It comes down to risk / reward and going into a infectious meat plant doesnt sound like it comes with many (any) rewards. One person in the thread said it and it's pretty damn simple.
Reward the workers! What does the average dr make in iowa? Double it and give it to the workers until this shit is over. $150/hr sounds nice.
Food supply is important.
Otherwise round up all these trump nutting 'patriots' and get them to these plants ASAP. They are ready to work and think the virus is a hoax. lol
Testing is the issue. Healthy people are asymptomatic carriers. They are healthy until they are not. How do you know the makeup of their family they go home to?No issue with testing, but if you have a healthy work force at those facility's it isn't critical. That leaves those resources available to others. Healthy people rarely die from covid19. Why is that so hard to understand? If your sick or old, stay home. Everyone else wears a mask and washes their hands. We know who dies and we know who doesn't, so why put sick people at risk at all? This is all I'm saying, it's not political, it's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's a simple short term solution to a problem we have right now.
I understand that you want to be angry at Trump, you want to blame him for the pandemic, but we don't have to create critical situations to do that, there are plenty of those available all across the country. Lets leave food production out of.
If some of them happen to die for his cheeseburger @Greenman is cool with it.Testing is the issue. Healthy people are asymptomatic carriers. They are healthy until they are not. How do you know the makeup of their family they go home to?
Meanwhile you either want or are willing to tolerate these people going to work not knowing who else has it. If they don't feel safe either for themselves or who they may bring the virus home to, they get denied unemployment.
Yeah why give a shit about these people.
These people don't live at the plant. You figure it out.No issue with testing, but if you have a healthy work force at those facility's it isn't critical. That leaves those resources available to others. Healthy people rarely die from covid19. Why is that so hard to understand? If your sick or old, stay home. Everyone else wears a mask and washes their hands. We know who dies and we know who doesn't, so why put sick people at risk at all? This is all I'm saying, it's not political, it's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's a simple short term solution to a problem we have right now.
I understand that you want to be angry at Trump, you want to blame him for the pandemic, but we don't have to create critical situations to do that, there are plenty of those available all across the country. Lets leave food production out of.
No issue with testing, but if you have a healthy work force at those facility's it isn't critical. That leaves those resources available to others. Healthy people rarely die from covid19. Why is that so hard to understand? If your sick or old, stay home. Everyone else wears a mask and washes their hands. We know who dies and we know who doesn't, so why put sick people at risk at all? This is all I'm saying, it's not political, it's not some wild conspiracy theory, it's a simple short term solution to a problem we have right now.
I understand that you want to be angry at Trump, you want to blame him for the pandemic, but we don't have to create critical situations to do that, there are plenty of those available all across the country. Lets leave food production out of.
when theres jobs open and the economy is a mess?Are people lining up to work at meat processing plants?
Solution is if you are going to require the plant stay open know what else should be required?
Proper PPE
regular testing of every employee Minimum daily.
Proper distancing based on CDC guidelines.
Staff rotated more often
None of that was mandated. Basically Trump is sacrificing the workers to keep his burgers.
You ever talk to some who worked in one?when theres jobs open and the economy is a mess?
Probably.
