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This is so refreshing. Minorities are starting to rebel against leftist racist policies and embrace equality for society, not hysterics, privilege and manufactured boogeymen. Not everyone wants to be put into a container and told by the left that they cannot make it because they are victims. That is what is really holding people back today.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ters-approve-of-trump-gop-regains-ballot-lead

https://www.theepochtimes.com/polls...esident-trump-reaches-50-percent_2870164.html

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/24/2020-hispanic-voters-donald-trump-225192

 

fskimospy

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Oh good, another in the endless series of 'Trump approval rating increasing!' threads by Spidey!

McLaughlin and Associates is a right wing advocacy pollster with an abominable track record and clear, comical partisan bias. By all means go check out their website:

http://mclaughlinonline.com/

Here's a fun article they have posted that shows they aren't just partisan, they are incompetent - this is literally the exact same reasoning that the 'unskewed polls' guy used in 2012 that led to his hilarious failure.

http://mclaughlinonline.com/2017/09/21/bombthrowers-com-mainstream-political-polls-commit-fraud/

In every poll, Democrat respondents outnumbered Republicans by significant amounts. The Economist poll was the worst. Only 24 percent of respondents (360) were Republicans compared to 38 percent (570) Democrats – which means that 58 percent more Democrats were polled than Republicans, as shown in the %D/R column. On average, in these seven widely recognized national polls, only 29 percent (409 people) of the total 1,383 polled were Republicans, while 37 percent (518) were Democrats. Another way of saying it is that, on average, 29 percent more Democrats than Republicans were polled.

This occurs because of the way these polls are constructed. Most use a methodology that queries a random sample of adults. That sounds “fair” and one would expect it to produce roughly equivalent numbers of Republicans and Democrats, but it does not.
The percentage of Democrats and Republicans should not be equal in a poll as it is an OUTPUT, not an INPUT. Only morons think this.

Here's a poll by a real, objective, scientific pollster. It puts Trump's approval among Hispanics at 34%. His total approval among Hispanics combined is less than those who 'strongly disapprove' of him alone.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...ent/lb192ih519/tabs_Trump_Tweets_20190409.pdf
 
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It's like he doesn't even care that his sources are so shameless about directly lying to him.
 

woolfe9998

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I've never understood biased polling, as in why it exists. It doesn't help a candidate to have over-inflated poll numbers and over-estimate how well you're doing with the general populace or a specific demographic. It may well hurt the candidate. If some right wing pseudo-pollster says that Trump is ahead by 15 points in October next year, the idiot base will believe it and some of them may not bother to show up to the polls.

It sort of happened to the left in 2016. The polling wasn't biased, was actually pretty accurate, but the poll aggregaters and analysts were way off giving Trump a 1%-10% chance to win. Some dems may have stayed home because of that.
 

fskimospy

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Hispanics love the president so much they voted against his party 2:1 in the midterms.
They totally changed their mind in the last couple of months though because reasons.

Remember when he had that thread about how African American support was up to like 35% or whatever? Yeah... it's at 15%. lol.
 

ElFenix

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It doesn't help a candidate to have over-inflated poll numbers and over-estimate how well you're doing with the general populace or a specific demographic.
it doesn't help them if they use it as their internal polling. it does help them if it makes people think they're joining a bandwagon or that it's ok to like someone.
 
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It's like he doesn't even care that his sources are so shameless about directly lying to him.
Just reporting the news as it is presented. It is no secret that Trump is making inroads with different demographics.
 
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I've never understood biased polling, as in why it exists. It doesn't help a candidate to have over-inflated poll numbers and over-estimate how well you're doing with the general populace or a specific demographic. It may well hurt the candidate. If some right wing pseudo-pollster says that Trump is ahead by 15 points in October next year, the idiot base will believe it and some of them may not bother to show up to the polls.

It sort of happened to the left in 2016. The polling wasn't biased, was actually pretty accurate, but the poll aggregaters and analysts were way off giving Trump a 1%-10% chance to win. Some dems may have stayed home because of that.
That's because you are looking at it from a reasonable and logical standpoint whereas there is a whole industry that is dedicated to fleecing the right by selling them what they want to hear. These polls aren't for gauging public opinion their purpose is to maintain their bubble.
 

Commodus

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Just reporting the news as it is presented. It is no secret that Trump is making inroads with different demographics.
No, you're just parroting inaccurate data without questioning it, like the mindless drone you are.
 
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No, you're just parroting inaccurate data without questioning it, like the mindless drone you are.

The thing of it is that I wouldn't be surprised if this data was more accurate than the other sources shown. Hillary in a landslide, the walls are closing in, the beginning of the end, Trump can't win WI, etc. etc.
 

Commodus

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The thing of it is that I wouldn't be surprised if this data was more accurate than the other sources shown. Hillary in a landslide, yo.
Given that Hispanics voted 2-to-1 for Democrats in the midterms, I'd say the poll is inaccurate.
 

VRAMdemon

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LOL..This is the guy who thinks most everyone who posts here is in an impenetrable, unreachable bubble - And he is here to smash these bubbles with his "wisdom", his "Trump love", rants, screeds and diatribes with nothing to debate. I still don't understand what the fuck he is doing here and what he is trying to accomplish..ah well, carry on wayward soldier
 

Commodus

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Midterm voting is often out of step with presidential elections.
And virtually every other poll is out of step with the one you cited. If the voting and real polling are against you, I'd say your dodgy outlier poll is inaccurate.
 

fskimospy

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Midterm voting is often out of step with presidential elections.
That's because of lower turnout. The turnout in the most recent midterms was basically the same as a presidential election - Hispanics voted against Trump 2-1.

If this poll makes you feel better about things by all means hug it to your heart's content. That's what it's made for after all, to salve the feelings of dupes like you who think that Trump will become popular any minute now and can't understand why the rest of the country keeps refusing to do it, haha.
 

Indus

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Not all latinos are cubans slow.

But 50% amongst Cubans.. I believe it! When are they going to be deported back to President Castro? #MAGA!
 
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I've never understood biased polling, as in why it exists. It doesn't help a candidate to have over-inflated poll numbers and over-estimate how well you're doing with the general populace or a specific demographic. It may well hurt the candidate. If some right wing pseudo-pollster says that Trump is ahead by 15 points in October next year, the idiot base will believe it and some of them may not bother to show up to the polls.
It makes it a damn sight easier to convince your supporters that an election was stolen illegally from them when you convice them that you were ahead in the polls. Trumps already been preparing the narrative that there are dark forces trying to steal his position.
 
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Just reporting the news as it is presented. It is no secret that Trump is making inroads with different demographics.
you're not reporting anything. you're repeating something.

and it isn't news.

the fact that you think you are reading news exposes the moron that you are.
 

Lanyap

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Well then, Trump needs to open up the border to get more future constituents. Hispanics do tend to be more conservative in their views and more religious. Dems need to get their shit together or they will lose.

A few noteworthy bits from OP's Politico link.
So, when even the pollsters responsible for the data Trump was touting—Marist Institute for Public Opinion, for NPR and "PBS NewsHour"—cautioned of the high margin of error for that subset, and a possible over-sampling of Republicans, many on the left promptly dismissed it as an anomaly.

One month later, however, and Trump is making an aggressive play for Hispanic-American votes in Florida and beyond. Meanwhile, polls suggest Marist might have been onto something—and that Democrats should be worried that Hispanic voters could help reelect Trump and keep the Senate in Republican control. If so, it would be a cosmic twist of fate: A party that has staked its future on a belief that America’s demographic picture is changing decidedly in its favor could find itself losing to a man whose politics of fear should be driving precisely those voters into the Democrats’ waiting arms.

The Democratic Party hasn’t been wowing them. Hispanic approval of congressional Democrats, and of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer individually, is poor. There are few, if any, elected Democratic Hispanics who are national household names. After Clinton passed on the opportunity to put a Latino on the national ticket in 2016, the 2020 presidential field has just one Hispanic in the mix: Julián Castro, who has been overshadowed by a white fellow Texan, Beto O’Rourke.

Meanwhile, Democrats’ hope of a deal to protect Dreamers — immigrants who were brought illegally to the United States as children — ended with nothing to show for it. Immigration reform and labor issues have taken a back seat in the Democratic-controlled House to climate change, health care, and gun control—similar to what happened the last time Democrats took control of the House, in 2009.

And most importantly, things are pretty good for most Hispanic-Americans. Trump is correct that they have enjoyed record-low unemployment rates, notwithstanding a small uptick at the start of this year. And, despite all of Trump’s rhetoric, and the fear it induced, not much has changed for most Hispanic families in the U.S. Deportations are a little down from Obama administration peaks, while immigrant arrests are a little up.
 

Jhhnn

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All the puffery is interesting. Dunno about Florida's native Cubans, but it's pretty obvious to latinos around here that if you look like a Mexican then TrumpCo will treat you like a Mexican, and that's not good. He even pardoned Arpaio, the original "Papers, Please, you brown motherfuckers" guy.

And who could forget this?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...ge-mexican-trump-university-case-lead-sot.cnn

The judge ony ruled against the nefarious scam of Trump U because he's a Mexican & because Trump wants to build the Wall. Not because Trump is a sleazy scammer. Couldn't be!
 

cytg111

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Donny is pushing his base away from the world of the real, world of facts, cause if your reality is fiction and he is the narrator, he can do what the hell a psychopath gets to do when he/she is running unchecked.
Slow will take a full frontal load in the hopes that some of it may splash onward to a dem. That is how sad he is. Pity the fool.
 

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