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Is the media spending too much time covering Trump

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Hugo Drax

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Do you think we are spending way too much time covering Trump himself on the news at the expense of discussing the actual issues impacting people.

Toss the Trump attention and focus on the issues themselves,how they impact peoples lives and potential solutions. There has to be better reporting available.
 

dank69

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It does seem to be cutting into the number of Kardashian headlines, now that you mention it.
 
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Hugo Drax

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Whats crazy is it not only repetitive but the same topic. For example the stripper he banged, you would think by now people already get it yet its head line news every odd day regarding the this tired story line.

Yet you never see a headliner about the huge tent cities forming in some of our urban centers. Why not spend a few days covering that in depth and open so e eyes? Also you could throw in a quick snide remark about how under Trump tent cities are growing if you need his name in the mix in order to get it past the editor.
 

Bitek

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Let's get it right, this fucker is constantly causing news, the media would not be doing their job if they ignored it.

It is too much? Yes.
But we voted in a wacky candidate, so it's our fault.
 

Indus

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Will America break? Dangerous divisions are growing!

America today is divided more deeply than at any time in living memory, with the possible exception of the late 1960s. A question increasingly worth asking is: Will push come to shove?

The brilliant political analyst Ron Brownstein likens the current moment to the 1850s.

“Things that were unimaginable at the beginning of the decade became imaginable,” he says. “A growing number of Americans believed themselves to be living in a state of civil conflict before it was a shooting war. And I think there’s a parallel to now.”

Some wore blue and some wore gray in the great conflagration that followed the 1850s. When the Civil War was over, 620,000 Americans were dead.


Today, some wear blue and some wear red. With two irreconcilable visions of what makes America great, we need to ask: Are we heading once again toward an abyss?

The era ushered in by Donald Trump’s candidacy has witnessed an intensifying climate of hatred, with violence going in multiple directions. Already, there are deaths. In Charlottesville in 2017, James Alex Fields, a self-professed neo-Nazi, rammed a crowd of counter-protestors with his car, killing Heather Heyer, age 32.

Terrible incidents like these have punctuated our history long before the prospect of a Trump presidency was even a glimmer in Vladimir Putin’s eyes. But Trump was the first presidential candidate within memory to have actually encouraged violence.

“Knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell ... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees,” is how candidate Trump instructed his followers at his rallies. Such incitement was not a one-off. On numerous occasions, violence against protesters duly followed.

Both as candidate and as President, Trump has fomented hatred of immigrants of all stripes.

“I think Islam hates us,” he explained in televised remarks. “Very fine people” were the words he applied to the white supremacists marching with flaming torches in Charlottesville. He says undocumented immigrants infest our country.

Three years of daily blows against decency have inured us to the shocking nature of Trump’s hate-mongering presidency. But no one familiar with Trump’s past should have been surprised. Just as no one familiar with 20th-century history should have been surprised that it has fallen to extremist intellectuals to offers rationalizations and justifications for Trump’s depredations of our democratic order.

In “The Flight 93 Election,” the notorious 2016 essay in which Michael Anton, later to become the President’s national-security spokesman, pleaded the case for Trump’s candidacy, there was no explicit call for violence. But the necessity of violence was implicit in its title, its rhetoric, and its logic: “Charge the cockpit or you die,” wrote Anton.

“If you don’t try, death is certain.”

How would death come to America? Anton’s answer, riddled to the core with racism, was through “the ceaseless importation of Third World foreigners with no tradition of, taste for, or experience in liberty.”

Thanks to mass immigration, Anton warned, the electorate would grow “more left, more Democratic, less Republican, less republican, and less traditionally American with every cycle.”

Desperate times call for desperate methods. “Charge the cockpit or you die” is a formula for justifying any form of conduct, no matter how extreme.

Where Anton went implicitly, others have gone explicitly.

Michael Scheuer, the former head of the CIA’s Osama Bin Laden unit and a once frequent guest on Fox News, has been growing impatient with what he sees as Trump’s apparent temperance. “No self-respecting and determined-to-remain-independent citizenry,” he writes, “can let themselves forever be held hostage by thug-civil-servants.”

Scheuer names as this brand of villain current and former high officials, including Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, John Brennan, Michael Hayden, and James Clapper. “If Trump does not act soon to erase the above noted tyranny and tyrants, the armed citizenry must step in and eliminate them.”

"The armed citizenry must step in and eliminate them." Those are terrifying words. And Scheuer is not alone.

"Try to impeach [Trump], just try it. You will have a spasm of violence in this country, an insurrection like you’ve never seen," is what Roger Stone, Trump’s longtime confidant, warned last year. "The people will not stand for impeachment. A politician that votes for it would be endangering their own life."


Every society has disturbed individuals, easily roused to violence and capable of unspeakable deeds. But perhaps even more culpable are the intellectuals who use inflammatory language that is either thinly concealed (Anton) or crudely overt (Scheuer). With America led by a president who is unbalanced and reckless, and has his own appetite for violent rhetoric, could mass conflict erupt?

We cannot know what the growing polarization of the country portends.

But if, as a great philosopher once said, the present is pregnant with the future, a bloody crossroads may be drawing near.

Please. This isn't a tabloid, it's a discussion forum. If you'r going to post entire articles, the LARGE FONT and BOLD PRINT are not helpful.
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brycejones

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Whats crazy is it not only repetitive but the same topic. For example the stripper he banged, you would think by now people already get it yet its head line news every odd day regarding the this tired story line.

Yet you never see a headliner about the huge tent cities forming in some of our urban centers. Why not spend a few days covering that in depth and open so e eyes? Also you could throw in a quick snide remark about how under Trump tent cities are growing if you need his name in the mix in order to get it past the editor.

Correction the OP is very, very, very concerned.

Op what country are you really from?
 
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cytg111

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When even the talking points dry up you know its a sad day in TrumpLand.
If there is an infestation of facist pigs in the west would we not like to see them stand up? Rally? Take arms if they really mean that? Id rather take that "debate" now than let infestation grow.
 

Amused

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Allow me to address your concerns...

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kage69

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Concern about this moron destroying our democracy and rule of law is no vice. Anyone who scoffs at that is cordially invited to go fuck themselves.
 
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Hugo Drax

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Concern about this moron destroying our democracy and rule of law is no vice. Anyone who scoffs at that is cordially invited to go fuck themselves.

At some point dont you think you are preaching to the choir, its the same exact coverage day in day out. It has become noise, people are probably tuning out on the 100th news cycle about the stripper he banged or the 2016 election etc.. why not cover stuff like the college inflation problem, the H1B abuse etc.. there are so many issues that are being sweeped under the rug. Everyone already knows trump is a dickhead. Do you really want to see the same thing every day? I bet trump loves seeing his name on TV and the web every day.
 
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soundforbjt

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At some point dont you think you are preaching to the choir, its the same exact coverage day in day out. It has become noise, people are probably tuning out on the 100th news cycle about the stripper he banged or the 2016 election etc.. why not cover stuff like the college inflation problem, the H1B abuse etc.. there are so many issues that are being sweeped under the rug. Everyone already knows trump is a dickhead. Do you really want to see the same thing every day? I bet trump loves seeing his name on TV and the web every day.

Stormy hasn't gotten that much coverage lately that I've seen, I scan CNN, MSNBC, and Fox almost daily. With the exception of her planned arrest, I haven't seen her mentioned near as much as Cohen or Trump's daily lies and problems from his own causing.

He wants to be the daily headline. If he didn't all he'd have to do is be Presidential , you know, that thing he said would be so easy to do. And use his bigly brain and get some real experts in their cabinet positions and solve the real problems, not what we have now.
 

Moonbeam

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I predict Trump will be headline coverage across the board on Saturday.
Conservatives are so terrified they are actively engaged in a paranoid effort to destroy their own country. This is terrifying to sane people. Get used to a mass freak out as fear generated hatreds collide. That's how programmed machines interact. Robot Wars. Either the liberals win or the rest of the world will have to nuke Nazi America to stop it from spreading. Who knows, maybe we will finally realize it makes no difference in the long run if the Nazis win. It may just be that millions or billions will have to die before we awake, or finally go extinct. We may be the one and only time in the universe that self awareness arose and died on the vine.
 

Jhhnn

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Whats crazy is it not only repetitive but the same topic. For example the stripper he banged, you would think by now people already get it yet its head line news every odd day regarding the this tired story line.

Yet you never see a headliner about the huge tent cities forming in some of our urban centers. Why not spend a few days covering that in depth and open so e eyes? Also you could throw in a quick snide remark about how under Trump tent cities are growing if you need his name in the mix in order to get it past the editor.

You need to actually read a decent newspaper. There's a helluva lot more in the News than Trump, no matter how hard he tries to hog the spotlight. This is on the front page of the NYT today, for example. It relates directly to homelessness-

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 

Hugo Drax

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You need to actually read a decent newspaper. There's a helluva lot more in the News than Trump, no matter how hard he tries to hog the spotlight. This is on the front page of the NYT today, for example. It relates directly to homelessness-

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

NYT Is definitely a much better source of news but 99% of Americans don't like to pay for news so they wont visit NYT.

Everyone already knows
#1 Trump and Russians are in bed.
#2 Trump banged the stripper.
I think we can move on from the same stories and cover more stuff in general. Lets see.

#1 Crumbling Infrastructure, so far Trump is not doing anything about it, yet where is the coverage of the crumbling infrastructure? Bridges,roads in severe needs of repair.
#2 The cost of college tuition, where is the extensive coverage regarding the creation of a new generation stuck with tons of debt they cannot discharge and will stay with them for life, an entire generation will suffer, the economy will suffer in the long term.
#3 H1b visa abuse, this program is being abused to keep people locked into the company that sponsored them and wages depressed. Companies love employees who cant leave out of fear they would lose the visa.
#4 The cost and access to health care.

I can make this list quite long but this is the problem, The Media refuses to cover in depth and at multiple news cycles issues that are hurting this country. Bread and Circuses, Trump is the best thing that has ever happened to keep the elites in control. The Koch Brothers, Soros,etc.. must be laughing on the way to the bank that we have Trump the court jester keeping Americans distracted with the help of the media.
 

Greenman

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I have attained Trump overload. Listening to the radio my day starts out with "WTF is wrong with Trump" show. Then there is the "we hate Trump" show, followed by the "lets try to figure out Trump" show, then my day ends with the "we hate Trump" show part two.
At this point, I'm second generation "I don't give a fuck". I'd like a morning summary of his stupid tweets, then a summary at the end of the day of the endless investigation speculation.
I may have to give up talk radio. It used to be informative and thought provoking, now it's repetitive and inane.
Does Oly North still have a radio show?
 

Jhhnn

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NYT Is definitely a much better source of news but 99% of Americans don't like to pay for news so they wont visit NYT.

Everyone already knows
#1 Trump and Russians are in bed.
#2 Trump banged the stripper.
I think we can move on from the same stories and cover more stuff in general. Lets see.

#1 Crumbling Infrastructure, so far Trump is not doing anything about it, yet where is the coverage of the crumbling infrastructure? Bridges,roads in severe needs of repair.
#2 The cost of college tuition, where is the extensive coverage regarding the creation of a new generation stuck with tons of debt they cannot discharge and will stay with them for life, an entire generation will suffer, the economy will suffer in the long term.
#3 H1b visa abuse, this program is being abused to keep people locked into the company that sponsored them and wages depressed. Companies love employees who cant leave out of fear they would lose the visa.
#4 The cost and access to health care.

I can make this list quite long but this is the problem, The Media refuses to cover in depth and at multiple news cycles issues that are hurting this country. Bread and Circuses, Trump is the best thing that has ever happened to keep the elites in control. The Koch Brothers, Soros,etc.. must be laughing on the way to the bank that we have Trump the court jester keeping Americans distracted with the help of the media.

All of those things come with the territory of putting the GOP in charge. If you don't like it, vote for Democrats. It's really just that simple. Why the fuck did you put Soros in there? Too much right wing propaganda?
 

soundforbjt

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NYT Is definitely a much better source of news but 99% of Americans don't like to pay for news so they wont visit NYT.

Everyone already knows
#1 Trump and Russians are in bed.
#2 Trump banged the stripper.
I think we can move on from the same stories and cover more stuff in general. Lets see.

#1 Crumbling Infrastructure, so far Trump is not doing anything about it, yet where is the coverage of the crumbling infrastructure? Bridges,roads in severe needs of repair.
#2 The cost of college tuition, where is the extensive coverage regarding the creation of a new generation stuck with tons of debt they cannot discharge and will stay with them for life, an entire generation will suffer, the economy will suffer in the long term.
#3 H1b visa abuse, this program is being abused to keep people locked into the company that sponsored them and wages depressed. Companies love employees who cant leave out of fear they would lose the visa.
#4 The cost and access to health care.

I can make this list quite long but this is the problem, The Media refuses to cover in depth and at multiple news cycles issues that are hurting this country.
Bread and Circuses, Trump is the best thing that has ever happened to keep the elites in control. The Koch Brothers, Soros,etc.. must be laughing on the way to the bank that we have Trump the court jester keeping Americans distracted with the help of the media.[/B]

Well, since the Republicans control all branches of Government, And a majority of all the State and local gov'ts, maybe you should ask republicans why nothing's getting done. People don't need to hear/read it in the news to know how bad Infrastructure, etc,. is.

edit: bolding got messed up.

Fixed that for you.
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Whats crazy is it not only repetitive but the same topic. For example the stripper he banged, you would think by now people already get it yet its head line news every odd day regarding the this tired story line.

Yet you never see a headliner about the huge tent cities forming in some of our urban centers. Why not spend a few days covering that in depth and open so e eyes? Also you could throw in a quick snide remark about how under Trump tent cities are growing if you need his name in the mix in order to get it past the editor.

Um, you do realize there's more than one of those, right? Not sure how many exactly, but there's at least two of them (and I believe there's been strong hints that there's more, I seem to recall there being talk that they're waiting for the one to work its way through court hoping it'll set a precedent that will mean the NDAs that Turmp sure seemed to like to setup for all his clandestine transgressions might not hold up, freeing people from potential legal liability over talking about them). And the reason articles about that keep showing up is because there are new developments. What you seem to believe is repetition is actually separate things or actually new information.

So, I don't know, maybe try actually fucking reading the fucking articles instead of just being a typical dumbfuck brainless shit for brains asshole by reading just the titles? If you did, you might understand why its a little more than Turmp banging some pornstar (i.e. the case has actual legal ramifications, and the discovery of evidence for the case looks to be potentially providing information relevant to the many other investigations of Turmp going on, because his lawyer that handled that particular situation is now cooperating with some of the investigators).

You could also, I don't know actually look for stuff about said tent cities, or if you really think there's such a dearth of reporting on it, I don't know, report on it yourself? You could make money and provide a useful service at the same time. Something tells me that either you don't know WTF you're talking about or you're ignoring the journalism being done on those topics.

Seriously, WTF, I used to think you were a reasonably intelligent person but either someone hijacked your account or you've been masquerading as one but are in fact a complete idiot that seemingly doesn't know how to get news other than whatever stupid headline some aggregator is feeding you, and can't figure out why you're being fed only Turmp articles after you only clicked on Turmp articles.