Trump to sign loyalty pledge

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Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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If he didn't sign it, he couldn't win the nomination because a bunch of states wouldn't let him be in their primaries.

Talk about a rigging the system. I'm glad the Dems don't force their candidates to submit to all kinds of crazy "pledges". People should do what they need to do as the timing and situation calls for it.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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For most candidates they would sign it for an endorsement of the party. In this case Trump has the RNC by the short and curlys.

It is an interesting development. Might be the most interesting development in my lifetime. A candidate that has more power than the party. He is barely taking donations so he doesnt need to bow to the party and the fundraisers. He has enough money to run on his own. And he is clearly popular enough to hurt the RNC. The RNC has little power over him unlike other candidates.

The RNC is in an impossible position right now. Trump runs as a Republican they lose. He runs as an independent and they lose. The only way the RNC has a chance is if Trump doesnt run at all. But his ego and bank account are too big for that to happen imo.

The best is Trump is the manifestation of the hysteria and desperation of the RNC. They created the atmosphere for a Trump like candidate. That candidate finally showed up and they cant control him. I love it!

Well said. He basically has to sign the pledge to be in the remaining debates. Doesn't mean he can't renounce it later. His experience with creative bankruptcies very much applies here.

On one side we have the Koch Bros financing the Tea Party & Fox publicizing them outside of RNC control & now we have a leadership cult forming behind Trump who they can't control, either.

They're now hostage to the monster they've created & exploited for decades.
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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I think doing that is a mistake for him.

I agree..IMO this negates any claims Trump has made about being a tough negotiator. The minute the GOP establishment confronted him with an obstacle, he folded. He said if the GOP treated him badly, he would run as a third party candidate. IMO when a national political party creates a special barrier to enter, specifically aimed at one candidate, only AFTER that candidate announced his intention to run for office; that constitutes bad treatment in my book. Trump's folding on this might cause his poll numbers to decrease, because it costs him some of his rebellious, anti establishment appeal. Right now, he is leading, so Trump really is only promising to support himself, at this point.
 

yllus

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Aug 20, 2000
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In the land of the free we actually have sore loser laws in place that prevent candidates from running as an independent. Our system is so effing rigged it is sick.

That is wild. You guys need to start seriously considering reform, even if it means constitutional amendments.
 

nickqt

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Jan 15, 2015
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Just another loyalty pledge, signed by another Republican, for an entity other than the US population and the US Constitution.

Nothing to see here, folks.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Once he signs, he is done they will launch the full scale. They want to remove Trump's leverage before they start working towards propping up Bush.

The pledge is not legally binding. He can still go nuclear on the party and blow the whole fucking thing out of the water. He knows that, they know that. The last thing they will do is try to force his hand if he decides to run 3rd party. What will they do? Take a massively litigious person to court?

ROFL, they'd get slaughtered.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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I agree..IMO this negates any claims Trump has made about being a tough negotiator. The minute the GOP establishment confronted him with an obstacle, he folded. He said if the GOP treated him badly, he would run as a third party candidate. IMO when a national political party creates a special barrier to enter, specifically aimed at one candidate, only AFTER that candidate announced his intention to run for office; that constitutes bad treatment in my book. Trump's folding on this might cause his poll numbers to decrease, because it costs him some of his rebellious, anti establishment appeal. Right now, he is leading, so Trump really is only promising to support himself, at this point.


Gotta know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run...
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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I can't believe he signed it, very weak.

Really the whole primary system is such a backwards system, that seems very anti-democratic to me.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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I worry his signing means that he is not actually serious about winning and will back out of the race.
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
Nov 4, 1999
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Does anyone know if Trump ever signed his membership card to the Hair Club for Men?

\if not, he should ask for his money back...
 

bradley

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Jan 9, 2000
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I worry his signing means that he is not actually serious about winning and will back out of the race.

Yeah, signing this loyalty pledge was a major disappointment. I guess the two-party system is safe from being dismantled for another election cycle.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Yeah, signing this loyalty pledge was a major disappointment. I guess the two-party system is safe from being dismantled for another election cycle.

I think so. We are going to have to wait until we get a majority of Trump like citizens, I guess. Oh well, I am quite used to knowing it's all hopeless for the masses. Only one person at a time and for zimself can pull zer head out of zer ass.