Trump to run in 2024, say anonymous sources

[kage69]

And give way to the rise of China and authoritarian mafia states.
And to think that it was a Trump, puppet or not, that brought it all to its knees. That is hysterical.

Cadet Bonespurs, aka 'A fucking moron', the guy who stares at the sun and who can barely read, who is ignorant on pretty much everything from history to science to what happened 2 days ago, that guy? "Puppet" might be too good a word for that pitiful excuse for a human, that clueless asshat would get himself into a feedback loop with shows on Fox. He took cues from Moscow on who to have in his cabinet. I'm being charitable when I refer to him as an asset or investment. Think we can all agree he's a tool, though it's that utility I don't find funny.

The "man" himself, definitely hysterical. Especially the poses where he looks like he's rrreally trying not to shit himself.

 

[K1052]

Legally, Trump becomes president again. As a practical matter, potentially a civil war. The basic question to Biden in that situation is if he’s willing to surrender power, knowing that by doing so he is ending democracy in the United States.

Maybe he would though! People don’t seem to realize it but in states like Wisconsin Republicans have for all intents and purposes ended democracy already, at least as it applies to the legislature, and people just take it in stride.

Gerrymandering is an obscure concept to most people though. The House simply installing Trump breaks things in a far more visible and severe way that's never happened before. I won't predict what happens after that because nobody can, I really doubt it will be good.

 

[Vic]

I sincerely hope Trump does run again.

Seriously.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I sincerely hope Trump does run again.

Seriously.

Yeah agreed... Trump running would be an absolute disaster for Republicans. Trumps Trumpists can’t come out and say that they are running for president until Trump indicates what he’s doing. And of course Trump will probably change his mind multiple times and release ambiguous statements. This will impede their presidential runs. Not to mention Trump running while being prosecuted would be a disaster for other potential Republican presidential candidates. It would give him an enormous stage on which to strut and rage against his being politically persecuted by the "liberal deep state". He would raise an ungodly amount of money – money that might have gone to other candidates. In fact he’d be more likely to run for President, if only so he could pardon himself (the Constitutionality of that maneuver aside). But that doesn't mean much. If another Republican candidate becomes president and signs his pardon, no Constitutional issues to worry about.

And every other potential Republican contender would have to support him in all of it. They would have to agree that the case is a "witch hunt", a liberal persecution, that his conviction is illegitimate, and that he should be President again. For Republicans, there’s simply no turning the corner from Trump. No matter what he does, no matter the consequences, they cannot say “enough.” His supporters literally ransacked the Capitol and killed police and almost every Republican legislator now holds him blameless.

Trump will run unless at the last moment he finds a way to sell his support to the highest bidder. I can’t see this happening. In order to sell his supporters, he’d have to go out and campaign for the person he sold them to. Just announcing he’s now supporting so-and-so most likely wouldn’t cut it; his supporters would stay home in droves. But I can’t see Trump ever truly campaigning for someone else. He always makes things about him no matter if he’s supposed to be campaigning for another person. The rest of the R party will first begin to back gingerly away from Trump only when he’s safely dead. And only if he hasn’t already anointed a successor that his base is willing to latch onto.

 

[Commodus]

Yeah agreed... Trump running would be an absolute disaster for Republicans. Trumps Trumpists can’t come out and say that they are running for president until Trump indicates what he’s doing. And of course Trump will probably change his mind multiple times and release ambiguous statements. This will impede their presidential runs. Not to mention Trump running while being prosecuted would be a disaster for other potential Republican presidential candidates. It would give him an enormous stage on which to strut and rage against his being politically persecuted by the "liberal deep state". He would raise an ungodly amount of money – money that might have gone to other candidates. In fact he’d be more likely to run for President, if only so he could pardon himself (the Constitutionality of that maneuver aside). But that doesn't mean much. If another Republican candidate becomes president and signs his pardon, no Constitutional issues to worry about.

And every other potential Republican contender would have to support him in all of it. They would have to agree that the case is a "witch hunt", a liberal persecution, that his conviction is illegitimate, and that he should be President again. For Republicans, there’s simply no turning the corner from Trump. No matter what he does, no matter the consequences, they cannot say “enough.” His supporters literally ransacked the Capitol and killed police and almost every Republican legislator now holds him blameless.

Trump will run unless at the last moment he finds a way to sell his support to the highest bidder. I can’t see this happening. In order to sell his supporters, he’d have to go out and campaign for the person he sold them to. Just announcing he’s now supporting so-and-so most likely wouldn’t cut it; his supporters would stay home in droves. But I can’t see Trump ever truly campaigning for someone else. He always makes things about him no matter if he’s supposed to be campaigning for another person. The rest of the R party will first begin to back gingerly away from Trump only when he’s safely dead. And only if he hasn’t already anointed a successor that his base is willing to latch onto.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the Republicans' willingness to sacrifice at the altar of Trump in 2016 feels a lot like Thanos' efforts to "snap" the universe. They won the election they should have lost in 2016, but it may have cost them everything. Certainly 2020, likely 2024, and possibly the 2022 mid-terms as well. And by the time 2028 rolls around, the demographic shifts might make it difficult for the GOP to win even with its stepped-up voter suppression.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yeah agreed... Trump running would be an absolute disaster for Republicans. Trumps Trumpists can’t come out and say that they are running for president until Trump indicates what he’s doing. And of course Trump will probably change his mind multiple times and release ambiguous statements. This will impede their presidential runs. Not to mention Trump running while being prosecuted would be a disaster for other potential Republican presidential candidates. It would give him an enormous stage on which to strut and rage against his being politically persecuted by the "liberal deep state". He would raise an ungodly amount of money – money that might have gone to other candidates. In fact he’d be more likely to run for President, if only so he could pardon himself (the Constitutionality of that maneuver aside). But that doesn't mean much. If another Republican candidate becomes president and signs his pardon, no Constitutional issues to worry about.

And every other potential Republican contender would have to support him in all of it. They would have to agree that the case is a "witch hunt", a liberal persecution, that his conviction is illegitimate, and that he should be President again. For Republicans, there’s simply no turning the corner from Trump. No matter what he does, no matter the consequences, they cannot say “enough.” His supporters literally ransacked the Capitol and killed police and almost every Republican legislator now holds him blameless.

Trump will run unless at the last moment he finds a way to sell his support to the highest bidder. I can’t see this happening. In order to sell his supporters, he’d have to go out and campaign for the person he sold them to. Just announcing he’s now supporting so-and-so most likely wouldn’t cut it; his supporters would stay home in droves. But I can’t see Trump ever truly campaigning for someone else. He always makes things about him no matter if he’s supposed to be campaigning for another person. The rest of the R party will first begin to back gingerly away from Trump only when he’s safely dead. And only if he hasn’t already anointed a successor that his base is willing to latch onto.

It's still basically the only way to guarantee that he stays out of prison. Get elected, become dictator. I can't believe he hasn't figured out that being president brought all kinds of eyes on his criminal operation, and was one of the dumbest things he's ever done regarding his "enterprise". Getting his cult to elect him now, is his only way out of stir.

 

[MtnMan]

53% (the same percentage of republicans that still think the orange god won) of republicans will march in lock-step with the orange führer. The remaining 47% will be adrift, either to split from the republican party, align with the 'other' party, or just sit it out in disgust.

 

[hal2kilo]

53% (the same percentage of republicans that still think the orange god won) of republicans will march in lock-step with the orange führer. The remaining 47% will be adrift, either to split from the republican party, align with the 'other' party, or just sit it out in disgust.

Yea, basically, any "normal" old school Pub, will just stay home (acknowledging that their numbers are few) . Brains, still too damaged to ever consider voting for a Democrat though.

 

[trenchfoot]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the Republicans' willingness to sacrifice at the altar of Trump in 2016 feels a lot like Thanos' efforts to "snap" the universe. They won the election they should have lost in 2016, but it may have cost them everything. Certainly 2020, likely 2024, and possibly the 2022 mid-terms as well. And by the time 2028 rolls around, the demographic shifts might make it difficult for the GOP to win even with its stepped-up voter suppression.

That's the realization the Repubs have already come to grips with and that's what scares me the most: It's what they're willing and capable of doing in order to prevent their inevitable demise as a truly democratically run organization. The Constitution has now become an obstacle, a stone wall that's preventing the GOP from acting on what I'm sure is a plan for grasping power in the same manner Putin was able to.

I think the Repubs will resort to some method of creating as much chaos as possible in order to seize the opportunity they'd create for themselves. Their party members are already primed for this to happen and would welcome the chance to severely risk the security of the nation if it gave them the absolute control they'd have to have to rule from a minority party status.

 

[conehead433]

I was sort of against having a President's Day holiday mainly because of the cost to taxpayers. Of course it is a holiday celebrating the birth of Presidents, but maybe we should have a similar holiday celebrating the death of a former President. It would be Huge in a Bigly way. I hope Trump runs - a hundred yard dash. He'll drop dead right away and the world will be an infinitely better place to live in. Can I get an AMEN.

 

[Muse]

It's very hard to convict Trump personally criminally. While he is a crock, i can't imagine former president behind bars, not in US at least. His organization will very likely to be sued/charged but i am not seeing Trump getting charged criminally.

Trump charged and convicted would be a wonderful watershed moment in America. It would be the proof we need that nobody is above the law. We hear that a lot but we aren't so sure. Trump behind bars would show once and for all that the law does apply to everyone, not just those who can't afford extravagant legal support or utilize loopholes built into the system that allow some people to game the system illegally without significant repercussions.

 

[woolfe9998]

So Dana Bash has evidently spoken to one or more former (but recent) Trump advisors, and has summarized their version of his behavior as follows.

Ex-Trump adviser paints disturbing picture of Trump's mindset - CNN Video

CNN's Dana Bash reports that a former Trump adviser says the former president is so focused on the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him that he's listening to "the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel."

www.cnn.com

He's totally obsessed with the idea that the election was stolen from him. It's practically ALL he ever talks about.

He's listening to "the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel" because they're telling him what he wants to hear. No conspiracy theory is too implausible for him.

None of which is exactly surprising, but does underscore just how desperately we as a nation need to be rid of this man.

 

[ondma]

So Dana Bash has evidently spoken to one or more former (but recent) Trump advisors, and has summarized their version of his behavior as follows.

Ex-Trump adviser paints disturbing picture of Trump's mindset - CNN Video

CNN's Dana Bash reports that a former Trump adviser says the former president is so focused on the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him that he's listening to "the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel."

www.cnn.com

He's totally obsessed with the idea that the election was stolen from him. It's practically ALL he ever talks about.

He's listening to "the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel" because they're telling him what he wants to hear. No conspiracy theory is too implausible for him.

None of which is exactly surprising, but does underscore just how desperately we as a nation need to be rid of this man.

Yea, I thought it was all political posturing from Trump, but maybe somehow he has really convinced himself in some deluded way that the election really was stolen from him.

Ultimately, what he thinks doesnt really matter, but the scary part is that a large number of the republican electorate believes it and few if any republican political leaders will stand up to him and refute it.

 

[Muse]

He's totally obsessed with the idea that the election was stolen from him. It's practically ALL he ever talks about.

He's listening to "the bottom of the bottom of the crazies in the barrel" because they're telling him what he wants to hear. No conspiracy theory is too implausible for him.

None of which is exactly surprising, but does underscore just how desperately we as a nation need to be rid of this man.

Yes, this was clear before he was OOO. His one obsession then (as now) was bolstering the stolen election conspiracy theory. It's the only thing he thought about besides playing golf.

 

[Muse]

Yea, I thought it was all political posturing from Trump, but maybe somehow he has really convinced himself in some deluded way that the election really was stolen from him.

This man has no litmus test for reality... the truth of the matter doesn't concern such as him. What he wants for himself is the only thing he allows himself to advocate for. He's been that way for decades and he's not going to change. He will never admit he lost the 2020 election, ever. That conclusion is off the table. He lived for the adulation at his rallies, he observed that Joe campaigned from home. How in the world could Joe have beaten him? Conclusion, there was collusion to dethrone him, the obvious popular candidate. So, he continues to be a magnet for "evidence," anything to support his case, doesn't matter how specious... he's not good at ideas like that, i.e. separating the wheat from the chaff. The judges he got appointed were better.

 

[ivwshane]

You guys have to look at this from the understanding that trump is an extreme narcissist. His election loss was an extreme blow to his ego and his world has crashed in on itself.

I think what’s crazy about this and what I can’t grasp is why so many people go along with helping him lie to himself. Has he really managed to manipulate that many people?

 

[MrSquished]

The silver lining is that this stuff is driving that orange piece of shit nuts in his head maybe to the point of madness. He is obsessed. It's not mentally healthy at all. Which means he is suffering. That is good. Anytime Trump suffers an angel gets wings.

 

[Muse]

You guys have to look at this from the understanding that trump is an extreme narcissist. His election loss was an extreme blow to his ego and his world has crashed in on itself.

I think what’s crazy about this and what I can’t grasp is why so many people go along with helping him lie to himself. Has he really managed to manipulate that many people?

What I'm told is that the political operatives, in particular the Republican officeholders or wannabees, have a choice: Go along with Trump and his false narratives or else commit political suicide. Such is the state of the party and the people whose votes it is depending upon.

 

[Muse]

It's still basically the only way to guarantee that he stays out of prison. Get elected, become dictator. I can't believe he hasn't figured out that being president brought all kinds of eyes on his criminal operation, and was one of the dumbest things he's ever done regarding his "enterprise". Getting his cult to elect him now, is his only way out of stir.

Almost 4 years until he could regain the White House. Meantime he may be jailed by New York. It may be under appeal, but he may well be convicted. It's hard for me to imagine him winning the White House after being convicted of significant crimes.

 

[ivwshane]

Almost 4 years until he could regain the White House. Meantime he may be jailed by New York. It may be under appeal, but he may well be convicted. It's hard for me to imagine him winning the White House after being convicted of significant crimes.

Really? It’s hard for you to imagine? Really? After two impeachments? After demonstrating his total incompetence? After having one of the worst covid responses in the world? After lying some 30k+ times? It’s hard to imagine a guy with all those negatives and more, who still managed to get 70 million votes, it’s hard to imagine for you to imagine him winning in 2024?

You are either in denial or you lack imagination. The guy is a stage three cancer in America and it’s spreading rapidly.

 

[Indus]

You know the end result of Trump is that the conservaterrorist Trumpanzees all 74 million + of them will NEVER EVER BELIEVE AN ELECTION IS LEGIT UNLESS THEY WIN!!

This is a gangrene upon a democracy.

There's too much wishful thinking by our leaders like Joe Manchin/ Kirsten Sinema and even to some extend Joe Biden that the country can be saved whole when the Gangrene is spreading. Speeches don't do shit.

You've got to cut it away to save the body.. let the fucking Trumpanzee states go already.

 

[theeedude]

I didn't know they had treadmills in prison.

 

[hal2kilo]

The silver lining is that this stuff is driving that orange piece of shit nuts in his head maybe to the point of madness. He is obsessed. It's not mentally healthy at all. Which means he is suffering. That is good. Anytime Trump suffers an angel gets wings.

Hopefully, his Adderall habit gets out of hand and he at least has a stroke.

 

[woolfe9998]

Why couldn't he have just been telling the truth this one time? It would have made up for so many of the lies.

 

[Muse]

Really? It’s hard for you to imagine? Really? After two impeachments? After demonstrating his total incompetence? After having one of the worst covid responses in the world? After lying some 30k+ times? It’s hard to imagine a guy with all those negatives and more, who still managed to get 70 million votes, it’s hard to imagine for you to imagine him winning in 2024?

You are either in denial or you lack imagination. The guy is a stage three cancer in America and it’s spreading rapidly.

Oh, not denial... look:

He lost 2020, why? Because of those things: impeachment, fucked up the pandemic completely, liar liar pants on fire. Women, blacks, anybody with soul voted against his rancid ass. He's even more smelly now with the 2nd impeachment, the capitol insurrection, his doubling down on his mad expectation to take back the White House before the summer's out... it's only getting worse for his brand, saw a bit today about his condos selling like last week's pancakes.