Trump thinks everyone on welfare is black. When told otherwise, says “Really? Then what are they?”

[tygeezy]

Your gratitude is only right. However, polite racists are still racists. You catch my meaning sweetcakes?

Yes, I could see where you were going, but I wanted to wait until you made yourself more clear. I don't care that you're calling me a racist because people like you have cheapened it. It's really easy to call someone a racist, and very difficult to defend. You don't have to bother making actual arguments when you can just brand someone evil. Furthermore, and i'm sure you know this, making a baseless accusation doesn't make it true no matter how many times you say it. Do you have any other assumptions you would like to make about me at this time since you know me well enough to tell me what I think?

 

[brycejones]

So much water carrying.

 

[Thunder 57]

Look how stupid (and thus racist) you are:

Simple math shows how stupid you are. Whites are underrepresented because they are about 77% of the population. Blacks are overrepresented because they are about 12% of the population.

 

[Victorian Gray]

So much water carrying.

Such big pails.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Your dick is dirtier than mine. That is the sum total of forum discussions

 

[Amused]

Simple math shows how stupid you are. Whites are underrepresented because they are about 77% of the population. Blacks are overrepresented because they are about 12% of the population.

You said:

"The thing is, when you take into account the makeup of the US population, things change. You are more likely to raped by a non-white."

This is not true. Not at all.

Actually, simple math shows how amazingly fucking dense you are. Using simple math, you are likely to be raped by a white person 57% of the time, and a black person 27% of the time.

The means you are TWICE as likely to be raped by a white person than a black person.

Even if blacks are overrepresented in the statistics, you are STILL less likely to be raped by one than by a white person.

Fail.

 

[Younigue]

Yes, I could see where you were going, but I wanted to wait until you made yourself more clear. I don't care that you're calling me a racist because people like you have cheapened it. It's really easy to call someone a racist, and very difficult to defend. You don't have to bother making actual arguments when you can just brand someone evil. Furthermore, and i'm sure you know this, making a baseless accusation doesn't make it true no matter how many times you say it. Do you have any other assumptions you would like to make about me at this time since you know me well enough to tell me what I think?

ok, for my amusement I had to stop reading after the suggestion of the word racist being cheapened. Now it may very well be you go on to explain that comment deeper in your post but laughter got the best of me so for you based on just the portion of the post I've read thus far... You are a purist racist.?? Way to nail the ists! Feel better now? I apologize if I made you feel like a regular ole, nothing special, possibly inadequate racist

For another laugh I'm going to tell my husband about the word racist being cheapened because good Lordy that is just hysterical. Thank you for the laugh. I mean, it's at your expense but still... Gold! *kissing my fingers tips and then exploding it*

 

[Moonbeam]

Believe me, if anyone's deprogrammed and eliminated everything they were told to believe, it's me. But objectively, some people are just malicious. I don't even know if evil is the right term for it, because it implies some kind of objective scale of badness, when in reality it's just a soup of horror. I'd even love to say that soup should be cleansed in fire, but I'm concerned there'd hardly be anyone left by the time the ashes went cold. How do you confront the notion that there's too often a mire of the worst traits of humanity all around, and nothing, realistically, can be done about it. By virtue of existing in society you have to just 'deal' with the worst, and it feels constant.

If I answer this I will probably just make you mad but I'll risk it anyway. First you say if anybody is deprogrammed it's you and then you tell me that people are objectively malicious and then that objective isn't the right word but soup of horrors is better. To me this sounds like something you were told, possibly by yourself something I myself don't really know to be a fact. All I hear are ideas you have accepted. I can't wrap my head around them. First you reject objectivity then adopt soup then describe the soup as the worst traits of humanity which reintroduces the scale. I hear an unconscious assumption that horror exists and you have trouble giving it a definition. How can we have words like good and bad without having something to which they refer, The Good and The Bad. Either there is an objective reality to these words or there is an innate reality, they are revealed to us via our human nature, we know them instinctively. Alternately, Good and Evil do not exist. The latter would be my contention.

Now the acquisition of the knowledge of good and evil, isn't that our original sin, if not real, then has to have been invented and transmitted from generation to generation, the programming I was talking about. It follows then that believing what you do about horror, the rest of your beliefs follow, equally strange to me.

 

[Younigue]

Yes, I could see where you were going, but I wanted to wait until you made yourself more clear. I don't care that you're calling me a racist because people like you have cheapened it. It's really easy to call someone a racist, and very difficult to defend. You don't have to bother making actual arguments when you can just brand someone evil. Furthermore, and i'm sure you know this, making a baseless accusation doesn't make it true no matter how many times you say it. Do you have any other assumptions you would like to make about me at this time since you know me well enough to tell me what I think?

Sure. If you believe welfare is a black/white issue you are also an asshole and you think you're not. No, no, please. No applause. I just know these things.

 

[Younigue]

Sure. If you believe welfare is is a black/white issue you are also an asshole and you think you're not. No, no, please. No applause. I just know these things.

nm

 

[tygeezy]

ok, for my amusement I had to stop reading after the suggestion of the word racist being cheapened. Now it may very well be you go on to explain that comment deeper in your post but laughter got the best of me so for you based on just the portion of the post I've read thus far... You are a purist racist.?? Way to nail the ists! Feel better now? I apologize if I made you feel like a regular ole, nothing special, possibly inadequate racist

For another laugh I'm going to tell my husband about the word racist being cheapened because good Lordy that is just hysterical. Thank you for the laugh. I mean, it's at your expense but still... Gold! *kissing my fingers tips and then exploding it*

Your accusation of me being a racist is baseless. Repeating it here over and over or telling your husband doesn't make it true. Maybe telling you that will save some time? Judging by you doubling down on your insults I would say no.

Anyway, this conversation is fruitless. You've made it clear you have no intention of discussing the topic and instead feel the need to break out the good ole ad hominem attack to get whatever flimsy point you had across.

Your conduct is frankly shameful and is a bad look for this website.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Moonbeam, are you deeply versed in the teachings of Buddhism?

 

[Thunder 57]

You said:

"The thing is, when you take into account the makeup of the US population, things change. You are more likely to raped by a non-white."

This is not true. Not at all.

Actually, simple math shows how amazingly fucking dense you are. Using simple math, you are likely to be raped by a white person 57% of the time, and a black person 27% of the time.

The means you are TWICE as likely to be raped by a white person than a black person.

Even if blacks are overrepresented in the statistics, you are STILL less likely to be raped by one than by a white person.

Fail.

Sure, but now take an individual male on the street. Who is more likely to rape? Apparently blacks.

 

[Younigue]

Your dick is dirtier than mine. That is the sum total of forum discussions

GEEZUZ Noah, wash your dick! My next words are going to be words to live by so... maybe jot them down.

You don't ever have to outwait someone else to clean your own dick. Just, hygienically speaking ya know. You take care of you man. Go ahead, be selfish in that way. I assume you wouldn't enjoy an infection in/on your down yonder. Just think of the odor you'd be forced to contend with. Good luck sir. I hope this has been a message of best wishes.

 

[Younigue]

Moonbeam, are you deeply versed in the teachings of Buddhism?

LOL! Sorry Moonie, couldn't help myself.

 

[Younigue]

Sure, but now take an individual male on the street. Who is more likely to rape? Apparently blacks.

Humans rape humans!

 

[Amused]

Sure, but now take an individual male on the street. Who is more likely to rape? Apparently blacks.

Just wow...

 

[Noah Abrams]

Also moon, if the answer is somewhere in the vicinity of yes (knowing your style, I know you won’t have a yes no answer ha), is there any book you’d like to recommend?

Thank you so much

 

[Thunder 57]

Just wow...

I don't understand the problem. White men are less likely to rape, but because they are the majority, it may be a white that rapes you. Black men are apparently more likely to rape. So if you see a black and a white, who is more likely to rape you?

Humans rape humans!

I agree. I don't know why everything has to be in a category. Bad people are bad people.

 

[Amused]

I don't understand the problem. White men are less likely to rape, but because they are the majority, it may be a white that rapes you. Black men are apparently more likely to rape. So if you see a black and a white, who is more likely to rape you?

I agree. I don't know why everything has to be in a category. Bad people are bad people.

Says the guy who tried to say when you're raped, it's more likely to be a black person.

People slap their foreheads a lot around you, don't they?

 

[Younigue]

Also moon, if the answer is somewhere in the vicinity of yes (knowing your style, I know you won’t have a yes no answer ha), is there any book you’d like to recommend?

Thank you so much

Tag me in?

I'm going to assume you will.

Give up. Everything is bad. No need to look for good, good is a lie. Bad is the only truth. If ever you feel a moment's happiness you're a sucker and a liar. Most of all hate yourself and be ok with it.

Nailed it!

*kisses* Moonie! I still love me and I'm still very happy in my life. So far, so good!

 

[Thunder 57]

Says the guy who tried to say when you're raped, it's more likely to be a black person.

People slap their foreheads a lot around you, don't they?

It obviously depends on location among other things. Would you like it better if I said blacks rape more than whites?

 

[Amused]

It obviously depends on location among other things. Would you like it better if I said blacks rape more than whites?

Why? You just singled out color, then lamenting the singling out of color, and now ask if it would be better if you change the way you single out color.

Here is a revolutionary thought: What if color has nothing to do with it, but poverty and education levels combined with the ability to hire a good legal defense do?

Which leaves us with your original statement, which had nothing to do with the thread topic at all:

"The thing is, when you take into account the makeup of the US population, things change. You are more likely to raped by a non-white."

Why in the actual fuck would you say this? Feel the need to say this?

 

[Thunder 57]

Here is a revolutionary thought: What if color has nothing to do with it, but poverty and education levels combined with the ability to hire a good legal defense do?

I believe that poverty and education are involved. So the focus should be on lifting blacks out of poverty and pushing them to finish school.

The point I was trying to make is that welfare programs also over represent minorities. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but we should be trying to get everyone out of poverty. LBJ's "War on Poverty" hasn't done shit, has it? You can give the man a fish, or you can teach the man to fish.

 

[Amused]

I believe that poverty and education are involved. So the focus should be on lifting blacks out of poverty and pushing them to finish school.

The point I was trying to make is that welfare programs also over represent minorities. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but we should be trying to get everyone out of poverty. LBJ's "War on Poverty" hasn't done shit, has it? You can give the man a fish, or you can teach the man to fish.

Actually, the poverty rate dropped after the programs were passed and stayed down percentage wise. They literally cut the rate in half. It was so successful, Nixon not only continued it, he expanded it. You see, anti-poverty programs weren't just a "liberal" campaign.

Hint, follow the red line.

You may oppose LBJ's war on poverty, but you sound like an anti-vaxxer trying to explain why disease rates fell right after a vaccine was introduced when you claim it had no effect.