Trump starting Presidency as a lazy prick. Refusing daily top secret intelligence briefings.

compuwiz1

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Maybe Trump's strategy was to win, then later resign, making Pence POTUS. lol
 

Phokus

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Maybe Trump's strategy was to win, then later resign, making Pence POTUS. lol

Based on reports, Trump is 'surprised' by the scope of how much work the presidency involves... plus he basically wants to spend his weekends in NYC. Trump loves the media attention plus the adulation from crowds, but actually governing doesn't seem to interest him.

This country is doomed.
 

brycejones

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Based on reports, Trump is 'surprised' by the scope of how much work the presidency involves... plus he basically wants to spend his weekends in NYC. Trump loves the media attention plus the adulation from crowds, but actually governing doesn't seem to interest him.

This country is doomed.

Maybe he just lacks the stamina to do the job.
 
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Double Trouble

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Man, you guys are really desperate for reasons to hate him. He's not even president yet. We also have no idea how many briefings previous presidents attended, nor do i really care.

Tone down the hysteria and save it for when he does really bad stuff, otherwise everyone will ignore you when he does stupid shit: and i have no doubt that he will ;)
 
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Based on reports, Trump is 'surprised' by the scope of how much work the presidency involves... plus he basically wants to spend his weekends in NYC. Trump loves the media attention plus the adulation from crowds, but actually governing doesn't seem to interest him.

This country is doomed.

Oddly he seems to really like sleeping in his own bed/room. He's admitted it and that's why he almost always flew home during the campaign.
 

BonzaiDuck

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His family always argues what a hard, hard worker he's been all his life. You know, he worked his way through college flipping burgers; started building his father's company from the time before he was born; probably never did his own taxes, while we know that Tim Geithner and possibly even Warren Buffet have done their own.

I've come to the conclusion that he can slowly be destroyed. It only requires the same pressure they attempted to put on Obama after 2010. As opposed to Obama, I could bet that the idea of an early exit could appeal to Trump, and then again that he generates energy from his own bile.

I do believe he can be worn down. He has a serious psychological defect. That was demonstrated during the campaign exchanges inside and outside the debates. He targets people for revenge; obsesses over loyalty -- the further details have been explained so many times it's hardly worth enumerating them.

I want to see his approval ratings monthly from February forward. I'm guessing they're already headed for the toilet. It will make him very insecure, and he will lash out. "Why don't they love me?" he'll ask inwardly. On the outside, he will continue to spit in everybody's face, talk about how great he is, and try to avoid hemorrhaging from his thin-skinned psyche.

They will demonize the media for fulfilling the obligations of a free media of objective journalism. But the media can keep up the pressure, and individual citizens can keep up the pressure.

Try barraging the White House from all points on the compass with disparaging letter, pictures, poems -- everything but threats.

If enough of the literate cooperate to destroy him, we can bring him down into the gravel and mud before it's too late.
 

kage69

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Yep, I remember saying awhile ago that my heart really goes out to those at DIA, CIA, etc if Trump wins. I stand by that. Having a conspiracy theorist with a twitchy twitter finger who also alternates from bully to pussy at the drop of a hat become CiC? Pretty sure the Maalox has been flying off the shelves from Laurel to Glen Burnie and still is.

Turning away briefings, and fitting with his apathy towards the entire concept of intelligence, I read a couple days ago he's got a single person handling his transition with the intel community.

Wtf.
 
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TheVrolok

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Man, you guys are really desperate for reasons to hate him. He's not even president yet. We also have no idea how many briefings previous presidents attended, nor do i really care.

Tone down the hysteria and save it for when he does really bad stuff, otherwise everyone will ignore you when he does stupid shit: and i have no doubt that he will ;)
Yea, being "read in" prior to becoming President is overrated. Winging it makes a lot more sense.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Man, you guys are really desperate for reasons to hate him. He's not even president yet. We also have no idea how many briefings previous presidents attended, nor do i really care.

Tone down the hysteria and save it for when he does really bad stuff, otherwise everyone will ignore you when he does stupid shit: and i have no doubt that he will ;)

I've actually tried to think about that very point objectively.

And I think if you review perceptions from the days of "Apprentice" through "Birther" and then his outrageous behavior through the campaign, the "hate" is like pizza dough at room temperature after a day's duration.

It has risen from too many reasons over a longer period of time.

When Obama was elected, a letter-to-the-editor of the local paper insisted that a one-day blip dropping the stock-market was Obama's fault. Boehner insisted two months into the presidency that the Prez was deficit for providing jobs -- "Where are the jobs, Mr. President?" A homeless man who'd lost his $100,000/year info-tech job told me the story of his father, who insisted that he himself had lost his job in July, 2008 because of . . . . who? Obama, that's who.

Perhaps you are right about the citizens who cry "Wolf." On the other hand, I mentioned today in another thread the play "Biedermann and the Arsonists" by Max Frisch, 1953. Maybe you can find that if you're interested, but the theme is one about waiting too long as a clueless bystander.

I only made predictions about the Bush presidency between November 2000 and September 10, 2001. I simply accepted it as a situation that we could endure. So you'd think that now I'm even older than I was, that I would simply continue to endure.

I'm surprised at my own sense of alarm.

Who knows? Maybe in three years, I'll be writing this from a camp somewhere in Utah, hanging on the barbed wire and shouting "Avenge me! Avenge me!"
 
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sdifox

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I've actually tried to think about that very point objectively.

And I think if you review perceptions from the days of "Apprentice" through "Birther" and then his outrageous behavior through the campaign, the "hate" is like pizza dough at room temperature after a day's duration.

It has risen from too many reasons over a longer period of time.

When Obama was elected, a letter-to-the-editor of the local paper insisted that a one-day blip dropping the stock-market was Obama's fault. Boehner insisted two months into the presidency that the Prez was deficit for providing jobs -- "Where are the jobs, Mr. President?" A homeless man who'd lost his $100,000/year info-tech job told me the story of his father, who insisted that he himself had lost his job in July, 2008 because of . . . . who? Obama, that's who.

Perhaps you are right about the citizens who cry "Wolf." On the other hand, I mentioned today in another thread the play "Biedermann and the Arsonists" by Max Frisch, 1953. Maybe you can find that if you're interested, but the theme is one about waiting too long as a clueless bystander.

I only made predictions about the Bush presidency between November 2000 and September 10, 2001. I simply accepted it as a situation that we could endure. So you'd think that now I'm even older than I was, that I would simply continue to endure.

I'm surprised at my own sense of alarm.

Who knows? Maybe in three years, I'll be writing this from a camp somewhere in Utah, hanging on the barbed wire and shouting "Avenge me! Avenge me!"
Have you read this play?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resistible_Rise_of_Arturo_Ui
 

ivwshane

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Man, you guys are really desperate for reasons to hate him. He's not even president yet. We also have no idea how many briefings previous presidents attended, nor do i really care.

Tone down the hysteria and save it for when he does really bad stuff, otherwise everyone will ignore you when he does stupid shit: and i have no doubt that he will ;)

I remember the righties on this forums taking similar advice when Obama was elected, twice.

/s
 

sportage

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Surprised with Trump?
Really?
Why....?
I knew he was heading this way when he asked for his kids to have security clearance and access to security briefings.
LET THE KIDS HANDLE IT. I'M TOO BUSY ON THE POT. TWEETING.

This is for real....
Trump could actually get us into WWIII by the end of his first term.
Hopefully, KFC and McDonalds fires will do him in before Trump does us in.

We are now witnessing a huge dose of buyers remorse from those that voted Trump.
Many of those Trump voters had their homes fore closed upon by the very same guy that Trump picked for his cabinet.
And they are NOT taking this Trump insult well.
Not very well at all....

We are about to enter a new era of American politics and American presidency.
The era of "stupid is as stupid does."
 

buckshot24

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Surprised with Trump?
Really?
Why....?
I knew he was heading this way when he asked for his kids to have security clearance and access to security briefings.
LET THE KIDS HANDLE IT. I'M TOO BUSY ON THE POT. TWEETING.

This is for real....
Trump could actually get us into WWIII by the end of his first term.
Hopefully, KFC and McDonalds fires will do him in before Trump does us in.

We are now witnessing a huge dose of buyers remorse from those that voted Trump.
Many of those Trump voters had their homes fore closed upon by the very same guy that Trump picked for his cabinet.
And they are NOT taking this Trump insult well.
Not very well at all....

We are about to enter a new era of American politics and American presidency.
The era of "stupid is as stupid does."
Hoping for the death of a president is CLASS, keep melting down.