Trump seemed taken aback when asked why African Americans are still dying at the hands of police.

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JEDIYoda

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The Washington Post has been tracking police killings independently since 2015.


You can apply filters to further analyze the data.

Approximately 1000 people have been killed by police per year since 2015. 58% had a gun. 17% had a knife. 6% were unarmed. 24% were black. 46% were white.

107 black men have been killed by police in the entire US so far in 2020. 66 had a gun.

135 black men have been killed by homicide in Chicago so far in 2020.



According to The Washington Post "the rate at which black Americans are killed by police is more than twice as high as the rate for white Americans."

"According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans.

In 2013, African Americans accounted for 52.2% of all murder arrests, with Whites 45.3% and Asians/indigenous Americans 2.5%. Of the above, 21.7% were Hispanic.

Blacks account for the majority of gun homicide victims and arrestees in the US while Whites (including Hispanics) account for the majority of non-gun homicide victims and arrestees. Of the gun murder victims in the United States between 2007 and 2016, 57% were black, 40.6% white (including Hispanic), 1.35% Asian, 0.98% unknown race and 0.48% indigenous American. Non-gun homicides represented about 30% of total murders in the time period. Blacks were also over-represented in such homicides, although only by about 2.5 times their share of the general population.Of the non-gun murder victims in the United States between 2007 to 2016, 61.5% were white (including Hispanic), 32.9% black, 2.29% Asian, 1.89% unknown race and 1.43% indigenous American."



I think Sam Harris had a very nuanced take on these issues in a recent podcast.


First I never said there was no national data base!
That is what the article stated! Which by your very admission the article is correct!
There really is no national data base!
None of what you mentioned is a NATIONAL data base!@!
Also most large cites keep a data base on what is happening in their cities! But that still is not a national data base!
So instead of entering the thread and posting stuff for us to read.....why don1t you just come out and give us your opinion on this issue, which our dear President has no grasp?
 

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First I never said there was no national data base!
That is what the article stated! Which by your very admission the article is correct!
There really is no national data base!
None of what you mentioned is a NATIONAL data base!@!
Also most large cites keep a data base on what is happening in their cities! But that still is not a national data base!
So instead of entering the thread and posting stuff for us to read.....why don1t you just come out and give us your opinion on this issue, which our dear President has no grasp?

There is literally a link in my post to an independently done NATIONAL data base of police shootings from the Washington Post with data going back to 2015.

The Washington Post has been tracking police killings independently since 2015.

My opinion is the disparity of blacks killed by police vs whites likely has direct correlation to the massive disparity of murder and other violent crime committed by blacks vs whites. The reality is there is probably a multitude of factors (including racism) that contribute to the disparity. Characterizing police killings of blacks as a racist 'epidemic' isn't a rational assessment of the data. Especially in comparison to the alarming numbers of blacks being murdered in american cities. Concluding that the disparities are purely because of racism isn't a nuanced and rational conclusion either. It's activist rhetoric.

I don't like Donald Trump and would never vote for him. What he said is obviously stupid. Pointing out that more whites than blacks are killed by cops isn't factually incorrect but it's still an obviously retarded argument.
 
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cytg111

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Bad case scenario, these 'feds' are Eric Princes.
Bad case scenario, this is the "private" intelligence they spoke of.
Bad case scenario, this is training the recruits as well, for what comes next.
What comes next? People off roof tops, Putin style.
 

hal2kilo

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Bad case scenario, these 'feds' are Eric Princes.
Bad case scenario, this is the "private" intelligence they spoke of.
Bad case scenario, this is training the recruits as well, for what comes next.
What comes next? People off roof tops, Putin style.
It would not surprise me if Betsy's brother was somehow involved.
 
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