Trump: 'Second Amendment people' could deal with Clinton

[Fanatical Meat]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-second-amendment/index.html

Donald Trump said Tuesday that if Hillary Clinton gets to pick Supreme Court justices, there's "nothing you can do, folks ... although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is."

I'll say I don't really think Trump was calling for Hillary to be killed but I do have to say when you are a public figure that people look up to its important to choose the right words. Inciting a nut to do something is unacceptable.

For anyone who says this is fine. I challenge you to write your congress man, or Clinton or Trump. Use those exact same words and make sure your name and address are included. Lets see how it works out for you.

 

[Brainonska511]

I'll say I don't really think Trump was calling for Hillary to be killed but I do have to say when you are a public figure that people look up to its important to choose the right words. Inciting a nut to do something is unacceptable.

He's not saying it explicitly, but it sounds like typical dog-whistle stuff that might incite crazy people to commit violence on their behalf while maintaining plausible deniability.

 

[Aegeon]

I'll say I don't really think Trump was calling for Hillary to be killed but I do have to say when you are a public figure that people look up to its important to choose the right words. Inciting a nut to do something is unacceptable.

The comment could also be interpreted as Trump suggesting his supporters could apply a "Second Amendment solution" by assassinating the appointed Supreme Court Justices in question.

Of course its not as if a high profile politician could potentially inspire some nut out there to commit violence or there is a problem with a hypothetical President of the Untied States being unbelievably reckless with his words...

 

[jackstar7]

Rather than start another thread about Trump stuff, I'll just add that one of his advisers has had contact with Assange... though doesn't claim cooperation.

"QUESTIONER: With regard to the October surprise, what would be your forecast on that given what Julian Assange has intimated he's going to do?

ROGER STONE: Well, it could be any number of things. I actually have communicated with Assange. I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation but there's no telling what the October surprise may be." - https://mediamatters.org/video/2016...firms-hes-communication-julian-assange/212261

 

[jman19]

Is he trying to lose the election?

At best this is a completely irresponsible statement. I thought Trump had the best words?

 

[Thump553]

OP hit the nail right on the head. In fact I think a very similar situation happened in my state last year involving such a threat and charges were leveled.

It goes to show that Trump does not, and will never, listen to his advisors. He is going to continue to say stupid outrageous things at least until he loses the election. For that matter I'm sure he will continue afterwards as well but with far less attention from the public and the media.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is."

jesus christ, what the actual fuck, drumpf? so much for playing it low key. when drumpf crashes and burns, it's going to be spectacular.

 

[Knowing]

What if, and this is a stretch because it doesn't involve going in to hysterics about possible interpretations of what he said... What if he was taking about advocates of the second amendment voting for him instead of Hillary, or in the unfortunate event the Democrats are desperate to vote for another warmongering corporatist exert influence over her.

I know, the first place your mind might go is violence, but maybe he didn't mean it that way. Not all "second amendment people" are "super predators."

 

[fskimospy]

OP hit the nail right on the head. In fact I think a very similar situation happened in my state last year involving such a threat and charges were leveled.

It goes to show that Trump does not, and will never, listen to his advisors. He is going to continue to say stupid outrageous things at least until he loses the election. For that matter I'm sure he will continue afterwards as well but with far less attention from the public and the media.

I don't know, Palin stuck around for quite a while after 2008. I imagine people will eventually get tired of his bullshit but both Palin and Glenn Beck were able to turn fleecing gullible idiots into a pretty profitable enterprise last time I checked and they were total amateurs at scamming people as compared to Trump.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What if, and this is a stretch because it doesn't involve going in to hysterics about possible interpretations of what he said... What if he was taking about advocates of the second amendment voting for him instead of Hillary, or in the unfortunate event the Democrats are desperate to vote for another warmongering corporatist exert influence over her.

I know, the first place your mind might go is violence, but maybe he didn't mean it that way. Not all "second amendment people" are "super predators."

Right, because if drumpf is known for anything, it's subtlety and nuance.


I hate the new emoji's or whatever they're called.

 

[jackstar7]

What if, and this is a stretch because it doesn't involve going in to hysterics about possible interpretations of what he said... What if he was taking about advocates of the second amendment voting for him instead of Hillary, or in the unfortunate event the Democrats are desperate to vote for another warmongering corporatist exert influence over her.

I know, the first place your mind might go is violence, but maybe he didn't mean it that way. Not all "second amendment people" are "super predators."

I'm dizzy.

Let me counter-spin: He never mentioned voting. He did mention the 2nd Amendment which pertains to something... tip of my tongue... oh right, bearing arms.

The NRA has been backing Trump for a while now. He thinks he needs to keep sending signals to their supporters to go vote? Yeah?

Oh! I'm in hysterics because I saw what Trump said and the context in which he said it!

Remember, he has the best words. So he surely doesn't need you to untangle his language for him.

 

[Bart*Simpson]

If Hillary respects gun rights LIKE SHE SAYS SHE DOES then there's nothing to worry about.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

If Hillary respects gun rights LIKE SHE SAYS SHE DOES then there's nothing to worry about.

So if she doesn't it's open season?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What if, and this is a stretch because it doesn't involve going in to hysterics about possible interpretations of what he said... What if he was taking about advocates of the second amendment voting for him instead of Hillary, or in the unfortunate event the Democrats are desperate to vote for another warmongering corporatist exert influence over her.

I know, the first place your mind might go is violence, but maybe he didn't mean it that way. Not all "second amendment people" are "super predators."

That's what he's asking for but his words are irresponsible and aren't clear to someone who is deranged.
I'll give you the challenge write a letter to a national politician with your name and address on it and use those same words in the same context, see how it works out for you

 

[Schmide]

What if he was taking about advocates of the second amendment voting for him instead of Hillary

Future tense is tense.

If she picks (she is in office) only the second amendment.

 

[Knowing]

I'm dizzy.

Let me counter-spin: He never mentioned voting. He did mention the 2nd Amendment which pertains to something... tip of my tongue... oh right, bearing arms.

The NRA has been backing Trump for a while now. He thinks he needs to keep sending signals to their supporters to go vote? Yeah?

Oh! I'm in hysterics because I saw what Trump said and the context in which he said it!

Remember, he has the best words. So he surely doesn't need you to untangle his language for him.

If your feelings are hurt then that's between you and you. I merely offered an option that didn't involve violence. Reminder, hilly was light hearted about a man being sodomized to death with a knife and Obama had Holder justify the death of an innocent citizen in a drone strike after the fact.

 

[jackstar7]

If your feelings are hurt then that's between you and you. I merely offered an option that didn't involve violence. Reminder, hilly was light hearted about a man being sodomized to death with a knife and Obama had Holder justify the death of an innocent citizen in a drone strike after the fact.

What hurt feelings? But continue to spin. First he is misunderstood by those in hysterics, now he's the same as Clinton and Obama.

You framed your initial post like an asshole, so don't be shocked when you're called one.

 

[Knowing]

That's what he's asking for but his words are irresponsible and aren't clear to someone who is deranged.
I'll give you the challenge write a letter to a national politician with your name and address on it and see how it works out for you

I have nothing to say to them. Writing them anything would be an exercise in time wasting.

Future tense is tense.

If she votes (she is in office) only the second amendment.

If that's the case then it is unfortunate, but ultimately all political power issues from the barrel of a gun.

 

[Bart*Simpson]

So if she doesn't it's open season?

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

 

[Knowing]

What hurt feelings? But continue to spin. First he is misunderstood by those in hysterics, now he's the same as Clinton and Obama.

You framed your initial post like an asshole, so don't be shocked when you're called one.

Yes, the left is in hysterics. No, he isn't the same as Hillary and Obama because they have *already* been responsible for gross loss of life. If calling me names helps you reconcile your conscience then call away.

 

[alien42]

What if, and this is a stretch because it doesn't involve going in to hysterics about possible interpretations of what he said... What if he was taking about advocates of the second amendment voting for him instead of Hillary, or in the unfortunate event the Democrats are desperate to vote for another warmongering corporatist exert influence over her.

I know, the first place your mind might go is violence, but maybe he didn't mean it that way. Not all "second amendment people" are "super predators."

the Trump campaign and the NRA on twitter both quickly covered themselves with that very sentiment. if that is what he really meant, then why didn't he just say it? a single word would have done it, vote. reality is that Trump loves crazy conspiracy theories and implying crude and very unpresidential things, he has a history of doing so.

Donald Trump is, quite simply, unelectable.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What hurt feelings? But continue to spin. First he is misunderstood by those in hysterics, now he's the same as Clinton and Obama.

You framed your initial post like an asshole, so don't be shocked when you're called one.

Interesting it deserves its own post so we can stay on this topic and pay respect to your topic.

 

[jackstar7]

Yes, the left is in hysterics. No, he isn't the same as Hillary and Obama because they have *already* been responsible for gross loss of life. If calling me names helps you reconcile your conscience then call away.

Be clear. I'm calling you an asshole and it is founded in your behavior.

I'm just telling it like it is. Like your boy, Donnie T.

 

[Bart*Simpson]

Donald Trump is, quite simply, unelectable.

Said sixteen Republican primary candidates.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I have nothing to say to them. Writing them anything would be an exercise in time wasting.

Or is it you wouldn't because those words can easily be misinterpreted.