Trump refuses to fly flag at half mast for the worst attack on US journalists in history

cytg111

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We all hear the dog whistle ... its so very subtle you hardly pick it up.

NOT.
 

NostaSeronx

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Trump allegedly refuses... even then he might still fly flags half-staff. Overall, the President isn't required to fly flags half-staff for mass shootings.
 

compuwiz1

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This thread seems petty. Did Trump really refuse to lower the flags, or was it an oversight? I'm sure it went like this; " I, Donald J. Trump, refuse to lower the flag, for those people in Annapolis!" The media is fucking retarded and so are some of you people, who drink from the well of bollocks. Keep drinking that awesome sauce that the media is programming you with. #walkaway
 
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This thread seems petty. Did Trump really refuse to lower the flags, or was it an oversight?.

I don't know for sure and he may still do it, but the reports I read said:

"However, the city of Annapolis confirmed to NPR that the president has declined a request for a similar show of respect for four journalists and a newspaper sales representative killed by a gunman last week at The Capital."
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/03/6255...half-staff-to-honor-annapolis-newspaper-staff

"The mayor of Annapolis, Maryland, says President Donald Trump has turned down a request to lower U.S. flags in the city to half-staff to honor the five people killed at The Capital Gazette newspaper last week.
Gavin Buckley said Monday afternoon he was informed by Maryland Rep. John Sarbanes of the decision turning down the mayor’s request."
http://time.com/5328851/annapolis-mayor-president-trump-capital-gazette-shooting-victims/

"While the state of Maryland has ordered flags lowered in honor of those killed at The Capital Gazette newspaper, Trump declined the bid for federal recognition, according to Annapolis Mayor Gavin Buckley."
https://nypost.com/2018/07/02/mayor-trump-wont-lower-flags-in-honor-of-newsroom-shooting-victims/


 

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I don't know for sure and he may still do it, but the reports I read said:

"However, the city of Annapolis confirmed to NPR that the president has declined a request for a similar show of respect for four journalists and a newspaper sales representative killed by a gunman last week at The Capital."
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/03/6255...half-staff-to-honor-annapolis-newspaper-staff

"The mayor of Annapolis, Maryland, says President Donald Trump has turned down a request to lower U.S. flags in the city to half-staff to honor the five people killed at The Capital Gazette newspaper last week.
Gavin Buckley said Monday afternoon he was informed by Maryland Rep. John Sarbanes of the decision turning down the mayor’s request."
http://time.com/5328851/annapolis-mayor-president-trump-capital-gazette-shooting-victims/

"While the state of Maryland has ordered flags lowered in honor of those killed at The Capital Gazette newspaper, Trump declined the bid for federal recognition, according to Annapolis Mayor Gavin Buckley."
https://nypost.com/2018/07/02/mayor-trump-wont-lower-flags-in-honor-of-newsroom-shooting-victims/


Seems the lowering of flags would be up to the districts and officials, where those people live. One man cannot have the hand on every control, 24/7. God might be able to, but not a human.

Meanwhile, I think I'm in love with this woman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZJGXH7wzg

Black people rock!
 

ch33zw1z

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Who's shocked? Trumps disdain for media outlets who aren't flattering to him is apparent.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Trump is a petty individual but that said I'm not getting worked up about this. Cuomo is out there selling someone elses soul over this (his was leveraged away long ago) because of Cynthia Nixon. That's not respect either. Instead this is an easy headline and an easy way to take a shot on less than important matters and that adds to noise.
 

brycejones

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Seems the lowering of flags would be up to the districts and officials, where those people live. One man cannot have the hand on every control, 24/7. God might be able to, but not a human.

Meanwhile, I think I'm in love with this woman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZJGXH7wzg

Black people that say things I like rock! The rest can just fuck off.

God has fuck all to do with it. A mass shooting that he commented on is something he can act on as well. Obama seemed to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

As for your last phrase I fixed that for you.

I find it funny that a member of any group trying to climb the socio-economic ladder would urge people to support Republicans. Republicans only care about 2 groups.

1. The unborn - once that kid is out of the womb good luck!
2. The wealthy and helping them retain and become more wealthy by stacking the deck. Through shifting taxes as far down as they can to minimize the tax burden at the top. Gradually strangling investments in education and shifting more and more of the burden for secondary education onto students. etc etc etc.
 

HomerJS

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This thread seems petty. Did Trump really refuse to lower the flags, or was it an oversight? I'm sure it went like this; " I, Donald J. Trump, refuse to lower the flag, for those people in Annapolis!" The media is fucking retarded and so are some of you people, who drink from the well of bollocks. Keep drinking that awesome sauce that the media is programming you with. #walkaway

What part of "declined a request" did you fail to comprehend? So the media is retarded? Who has led the public astray more the media or Trump??
 

IronWing

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IMHO, we fly the flag at half staff far too often.

For federal flags: Dead Presidents, okay. Dead first spouses, no. Dead current Senators, Congress critters, Supremes, okay. Dead retired Senators, Congress critters, Supremes, no.

In Arizona, the Governor seem to order the flag at half staff every time Dominos gets an order wrong. I've been in large groups of people and not one person knew why the flag was at half staff.
 
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Zorba

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Trump is petty as hell.

However, I would like to go back to a time where flags are only lowered for presidential deaths. The flags fly lowered as often as full any more. Then we have to lower then for everything's anniversary too. The problem is as soon as you do it for someone, people expect you to do it for everything.
 

UNCjigga

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I think this registers a 2/10 on the outrage meter. I think the President should be doing everything he can to find kidnapped children within HHS and return them to their parents, in order to comply with a court order. He shouldn't give a flying fuck about flags at half mast, unless he's trying to bang a porn star.
 

zinfamous

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Seems the lowering of flags would be up to the districts and officials, where those people live. One man cannot have the hand on every control, 24/7. God might be able to, but not a human.

Meanwhile, I think I'm in love with this woman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZJGXH7wzg

Black people rock!

Remember how you voted for him because he was THE ONE MAN! that can fix all of your problems?

Now you say he can't be everywhere all the time to do everything.

Odd.
 

dainthomas

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I think this registers a 2/10 on the outrage meter. I think the President should be doing everything he can to find kidnapped children within HHS and return them to their parents, in order to comply with a court order. He shouldn't give a flying fuck about flags at half mast, unless he's trying to bang a porn star.

How many seconds of his precious time would it take for him to say "hey, various flunkies, make sure the flags are at half staff today." Obama did it when Nancy Reagan passed away, and that wasn't even a mass murder.
 

zinfamous

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I think this registers a 2/10 on the outrage meter. I think the President should be doing everything he can to find kidnapped children within HHS and return them to their parents, in order to comply with a court order. He shouldn't give a flying fuck about flags at half mast, unless he's trying to bang a porn star.

Request comes in to do this thing.
President only needs a few seconds to issue a yeah or nay on an extremely benign, non-controversial request.

Really difficult work there.

His refusal actually shows that he probably spent more time thinking about this than necessary. The fat fuck toad calculated if his base of ignorant bottomfeeders, like compuwiz, would appropriately jizz their pants and make a special offering to their Trump shrines that they have all installed in their houses. He wanted to make sure the base was pleased over his callous disregard and total lack of respect for the foundations of our nation, and that this choice would appropriately tickle their rage and cause yet another distraction in the increasingly fleeting news cycle, which seems to be measured in hours, now.
 

realibrad

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Request comes in to do this thing.
President only needs a few seconds to issue a yeah or nay on an extremely benign, non-controversial request.

Really difficult work there.

His refusal actually shows that he probably spent more time thinking about this than necessary. The fat fuck toad calculated if his base of ignorant bottomfeeders, like compuwiz, would appropriately jizz their pants and make a special offering to their Trump shrines that they have all installed in their houses. He wanted to make sure the base was pleased over his callous disregard and total lack of respect for the foundations of our nation, and that this choice would appropriately tickle their rage and cause yet another distraction in the increasingly fleeting news cycle, which seems to be measured in hours, now.

We will have to see, because, right now it looks like staff might have refused it, and he looks to have approved it. No way of telling if that is true or not though.
 

HomerJS

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We will have to see, because, right now it looks like staff might have refused it, and he looks to have approved it. No way of telling if that is true or not though.
That decision would come from POTUS. That's the way law is written. I can see that fat fuck saying no until he got blowback.
 

realibrad

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That decision would come from POTUS. That's the way law is written. I can see that fat fuck saying no until he got blowback.

I can see that too. As I said, there is no way of knowing right now if Trump said no, or his staff said no, or if it really was bad PR and he changed his mind.

The original article said that they submitted a request and were denied, but, it did not say he spoke to Trump directly.
 

zinfamous

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I can see that too. As I said, there is no way of knowing right now if Trump said no, or his staff said no, or if it really was bad PR and he changed his mind.

The original article said that they submitted a request and were denied, but, it did not say he spoke to Trump directly.

Should have just prank called Trump on AF One; then they would have gotten through to POTUS.