Trump/Putin summit is on

[HomerJS]

So I want to see what people think. What does the United States have to gain from this? What does Russia have to gain? Remember, the question is not what does Trump have to gain.

United States
I can't really see anything.

Russia
Weaken NATO
Get sanctions removed, specifically Magnitsky
Trump can give away more of our secrets. Remember, he already did it when Kislyak visited the Oval.
Russia entry back into the G7
Allow Putin to keep Crimea



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...tin-trump-summit/ar-AAze7nl?OCID=ansmsnnews11

 

[ivwshane]

Trumps actions only make sense if you believe he is working for putin.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You’re right I’d prefer to go back to MAD and proxy wars and such. Put in is an evil guy, Russia is a hostile natio, but like with NK maybe it’s time to try something different.

 

[IronWing]

You’re right I’d prefer to go back to MAD and proxy wars and such. Put in is an evil guy, Russia is a hostile natio, but like with NK maybe it’s time to try something different.

Even for you, this was a stupid post.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Even for you, this was a stupid post.

Care to expound?

 

[IronWing]

Care to expound?

You presented an either-or situation where none exists. Either we go along with Trump's Putin worship or it's MAD. That's retarded.

 

[PottedMeat]

50/50 shot trump gets caught on a mic talking about how he wants to bang putin's daughter... as chit chat with putin

 

[HomerJS]

You’re right I’d prefer to go back to MAD and proxy wars and such. Put in is an evil guy, Russia is a hostile natio, but like with NK maybe it’s time to try something different.

We are already part of a nuclear non proliferation treaty to which Russia is a signator.

What is there to gain from a summit for US? What proxy war are we in that Putin would agree to halt?

Be specific.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Be specific.

Oh lawd, an e-badass


We aren’t engaged in open proxy wars. I don’t want to go back to that either. Relations with Russia have been deteriorating for a while, I do t see that as a good thing.

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh lawd, an e-badass


We aren’t engaged in open proxy wars. I don’t want to go back to that either. Relations with Russia have been deteriorating for a while, I do t see that as a good thing.

Putin knew it would be this way when he seized Crimea & started a shooting war in the Donbass.

It's not the kind of behavior we should accept for the sake of better relations.

Not to mention that Syria is a proxy war of sorts.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Honestly I’m not sure Putin cares, he’s concerned with coming across as tough so his base worships him and keeps him in power (and alive). Sounds familiar actually.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You’re right I’d prefer to go back to MAD and proxy wars and such. Put in is an evil guy, Russia is a hostile natio, but like with NK maybe it’s time to try something different.

Right on. Just give Vladi whatever he wants and everything will be great. Ice cream and puppies for everyone.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Right on. Just give Vladi whatever he wants and everything will be great. Ice cream and puppies for everyone.

I said what

 

[Jhhnn]

Honestly I’m not sure Putin cares, he’s concerned with coming across as tough so his base worships him and keeps him in power (and alive). Sounds familiar actually.

If he doesn't care there's no reason we should seek better relations.

 

[cytg111]

You’re right I’d prefer to go back to MAD and proxy wars and such. Put in is an evil guy, Russia is a hostile natio, but like with NK maybe it’s time to try something different.

You have to consider what side you are barking for.. where Flynn is right now, where Manafort is right now, all the indictments uptil now, what you know about the election from the public domain, what is still pouring out on a daily basis of news surrounding a russian election job... To ignore all this you might as well come out as flat earther... It is flat earther or collaborator.

 

[cytg111]

Honestly I’m not sure Putin cares, he’s concerned with coming across as tough so his base worships him and keeps him in power (and alive). Sounds familiar actually.

I see.. you can sort of relate to the guy.. on both sides. Your mind is fried.

 

[UglyCasanova]

If he doesn't care there's no reason we should seek better relations.

Very progressive viewpoint you’ve got there.

 

[IronWing]

Very progressive viewpoint you’ve got there.

Yes it is. Progressives stand against violent dictators that mean us harm. Where's your spine?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Weird I’ve always kind of thought of them as the "give peace a chance" lot that thought the MIC was out of control and there was no chance of either side winnng the Cold War.

 

[cytg111]

Yes it is. Progressives stand against violent dictators that mean us harm. Where's your spine?

I am guessing that certain right wing media is now pushing the Good Guy Putin idea full throttle.. I am afraid to go look..

 

[ivwshane]

Weird I’ve always kind of thought of them as the "give peace a chance" lot that thought the MIC was out of control and there was no chance of either side winnng the Cold War.

Yeah, well, you get a lot of things wrong.

 

[zinfamous]

Birds will survive humans. That's pretty much guaranteed now, and really all that matters.

Fuck all you, whatever. I'm out.

Birds!

 

[Jhhnn]

Weird I’ve always kind of thought of them as the "give peace a chance" lot that thought the MIC was out of control and there was no chance of either side winnng the Cold War.

We were all going along nicely until Putin chose military aggression as the means to his ends. Funny how that changed things. Then he doubled down helping to install Trump as President.

We should just accept that because... what, exactly?

 

[Victorian Gray]

I said what

No puppies?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Weird I’ve always kind of thought of them as the "give peace a chance" lot that thought the MIC was out of control and there was no chance of either side winnng the Cold War.

This isn't the Cold War and Russia is not even in the same universe as the old USSR. Times have changed bunky. It's not 1970 any more.