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Trump personal spiritual advisor prays for women to miscarry. Advocating abortion?

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whm1974

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There was a Catholic sect back in the early middle ages that believed that pregnant women were possessed by demons. The Church exterminated the sect root and branch.
Name of sect and link please. I imagine that this sect was rather small if they actually believe pregnant women were possessed by demons.

Then again the Founder of the Shakers did believe and founded the cult on the rather silly ass belief the at the Original Sin wasn't the eating of some forbidding fruit but Adam and Eve having Sex for the very first time. Never mind that God already told them to be Fruitful and Multiply what twice?

Amazing enough the Cult was rather large despite them having them having this Sex is a Major Sin idea.:rolleyes:
 

Vic

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Metaphorical or not, it sure sounds like the President's spiritual advisor is very much pro-abortion as long as the 'right' people's fetuses are the ones being aborted.
 
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pete6032

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But will they take the next step and vote Democratic? The above is just a start
I don't know, but my post was in response to yours, which said you had not heard from any evangelicals who have spoke out against Trump. Clearly there are many speaking out.
 

Ajay

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But will they take the next step and vote Democratic? The above is just a start
I am (well, Catholic), but on key issues like abortion, the Democratic party's platform just kills that option for many Christians. So, I swallow hard and vote, because republicans suck so bad on just about everything else.
 

HomerJS

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I am (well, Catholic), but on key issues like abortion, the Democratic party's platform just kills that option for many Christians. So, I swallow hard and vote, because republicans suck so bad on just about everything else.
I've always wanted to know why the Christian concern drops so much as soon as fetus is born
 

Vic

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I am (well, Catholic), but on key issues like abortion, the Democratic party's platform just kills that option for many Christians. So, I swallow hard and vote, because republicans suck so bad on just about everything else.
Irony is that banning abortions doesn't prevent abortions, any more than the drug war stopped drug abuse or banning gun ownership would make guns disappear. All any of that ever does is bring govt force into people's lives, with the usual results. But as long as it's other people's live, who cares, amirite? Obviously, the President's spiritual advisor doesn't care. She's calling on God to abort the unborn fetuses of the people she doesn't like.
 

Ajay

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I've always wanted to know why the Christian concern drops so much as soon as fetus is born
Part of the reason I vote D is because I do care about about person's full life - and want an adequate social Safety net. Anecdotally, I’m not alone. Don't really know why some don’t, it doesn’t make sense. I do understand why they don’t vote D.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I am (well, Catholic), but on key issues like abortion, the Democratic party's platform just kills that option for many Christians. So, I swallow hard and vote, because republicans suck so bad on just about everything else.
You know, objectively wealth inequality probably kills more unborn and infant children than abortion legality does.
 

Ajay

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You know, objectively wealth inequality probably kills more unborn and infant children than abortion legality does.
And, wealth inequality needs to addressed at a national level - I've believed this for several years. Anyway, just to be clear, I'm not interested in arguing my position on abortion or my voting D even with the current party platform. I was just posting one perspective that I hoped might be useful to some.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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And, wealth inequality needs to addressed at a national level - I've believed this for several years. Anyway, just to be clear, I'm not interested in arguing my position on abortion or my voting D even with the current party platform. I was just posting one perspective that I hoped might be useful to some.
You don't see the logical fault with that? Not doubting your intent or personal feelings wrt this, but if your argument is 'saving unborn children' and you are presented evidence that one policy supported by the opposition actually does more for your argument than the one you support, doesn't it make sense that you change your stance?
 

Ajay

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You don't see the logical fault with that? Not doubting your intent or personal feelings wrt this, but if your argument is 'saving unborn children' and you are presented evidence that one policy supported by the opposition actually does more for your argument than the one you support, doesn't it make sense that you change your stance?
Anyway, just to be clear, I'm not interested in arguing my position on abortion or my voting D even with the current party platform.
Understand now?
 

mikeymikec

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Irony is that banning abortions doesn't prevent abortions
But as long as some people can pretend it helps (rather than doing the direct opposite), then that's sufficient reason to vote Republican apparently, even if one can't stand them for many other reasons.
 
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1prophet

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It is obviously metaphorical if you actually listen to the sermon. It is just a long string of metaphorical nonsense.
Did she include in the sermon were the conservative bible says women should stay silent in church and not speak, or is she using the liberal religious fluid bible were one can be and do whatever they believe or identify as.
 
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dawp

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Your not one for thinking very much are you?
In 2016 who knew?
The only way what you stated can be true is if you apply that to the 2020 election!
anyone who did any basic research on trump, it was all out there for everyone to see. he has a loooooonnnnngggg history of acting just like he has since taking office.
 
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IronWing

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Did she include in the sermon were the conservative bible says women should stay silent in church and not speak, or is she using the liberal religious fluid bible were one can be and do whatever they believe or identify as.
Criticizing a conservative position without lobbing nonsense at liberals was a bridge too far.
 

thilanliyan

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Did she include in the sermon were the conservative bible says women should stay silent in church and not speak, or is she using the liberal religious fluid bible were one can be and do whatever they believe or identify as.
Oh...that's a new one...it's liberals' fault that women speak in church?

Anything more to blame on liberals or are you done in this thread.
 

HomerJS

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Wonder how that conservative christian thing feels about plastic surgery?

Somehow I think it violates one of the 7 deadly sins
 

Viper1j

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Evangelical Christians had already whored themselves out to the golden calf called Trump. We already know what's left of their integrity wallows in the pool of hypocrisy. Now they are selling out what's left of their beliefs by advocating for abortion. For the record, miscarriages are spontaneous abortions. I guess the only reasons evangelicals/conservatives have left for supporting Trump are unqualified conservative judges, hating on people of color and tax cuts for the rich.

BTW - What in the hell is a satanic pregnancy? If the woman is on all fours while having sex?
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