Trump: New trade deal w/Mexico pays for wall!

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SMOGZINN

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More winning...

How do we know that the wall was not circumvented? Oh, right because it was a short stretch of wall and we had men manning the entire length of it.

Also, per the same article you posted they also assaulted an area with out the wall, and still no one got through.

So, is wall worth the cost considering we had similar outcomes with or without it? That is how you have to figure out that cost to effectiveness ratio of the wall.
 

BAMAVOO

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we need to build a wall around california, call it liberalland and let you have at it..
 

Meghan54

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How do we know that the wall was not circumvented? Oh, right because it was a short stretch of wall and we had men manning the entire length of it.

Also, per the same article you posted they also assaulted an area with out the wall, and still no one got through.

So, is wall worth the cost considering we had similar outcomes with or without it? That is how you have to figure out that cost to effectiveness ratio of the wall.

Per another source that's probably more unbiased than chudhead's choice (BBC):

Mexico says it has deported nearly 100 Central American migrants a day after they tried to storm the US border.

Video footage shows dozens of people running towards the border fence near the city of Tijuana.

On Monday US officials confirmed that 42 people who managed to cross on Sunday had been arrested, accused of disturbing the peace and other charges.

And Gerardo Garcia Benavente, of Mexico's migration office, said: "98 foreigners were returned to their country last night following the violent incident at the border post."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46339085


Another source (NPR) on the Sunday "riot":

What happened on Sunday?

It was a peaceful protest at first, says Fredrick, who witnessed the events in Tijuana. Mexican federal police attempted to contain the crowd, but some migrants were able to pass the Mexican police.

"They went down into this kind of riverbank, where there is not that giant steel fence that divides the U.S. and Mexico," he says. "It's a chain-link fence and barbed wire. A group of them started pushing up against that fence."

At that point, U.S. agents began firing tear gas into the crowd for the first time. Tear gas was used again several times.

Ninety-eight migrants were arrested by Mexican authorities south of the border.

Rodney Scott, chief patrol agent of the San Diego Sector Border Patrol, told CNN on Monday that about 42 people were arrested on the U.S. side of the border, including eight women and "a few children."

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/27/670807343/fact-check-whats-happening-on-the-u-s-mexico-border
 

compcons

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When will the lemmi gs learn that Not Paying for an ineffective wall does NOT equal open borders?

There is a ton of bipartisan support for continuing to pay for border security (done under Obama and continues under Trump). We just don't want to pay for something that has proven to be ineffective. Pay for effective and real security measures? Sure. Pay billions for a glorified fence that does nothing? Nope. Allocate funds efficiently.

Why are conservatives so damn liberal with spending our money?
 

umbrella39

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Update of sorts:

Apparently this is how Mexico will be paying for the wall (yet another lie):


How much will they have to charge per ride? Would have been nice if Our Boys would have hopped on one with the kids... Kodak and TrumpTard head exploding kind of moment for sure...
 
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umbrella39

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Some (lots o werds) from the project:

A set of bright pink seesaws is uniting children on the US-Mexico border as President Donald Trump wants to build a wall along the entire 2,000-mile boundary. The seesaws were installed at the border fence separating Sunland Park, New Mexico, and Ciudad Juárez in Mexico on Sunday.

The scheme was devised by Ronald Rael, an architecture professor at the University of California, and San Jose State design associate professor Virginia San Fratello. Images and video on social media show adults and children divided by the fence playing on them, with the children laughing and having fun.

In an Instagram post, Rael said: 'The wall became a literal fulcrum for the US-Mexico relations, and adults were connected in meaningful ways on both sides with the recognition that the actions that take place on one side have a direct consequence on the other side.' In the video, children on either side of the wall can be seen on either side of the U.S.-Mexico border playing together on three bright pink seesaws built through the wall. However the children can see each other between gaps in the slats which form the wall.

The seesaw initiative was first developed in 2009 when the pair produced designs for a scheme known as the Teetertotter Wall. By late Monday, video of the seesaw project was widely shared on social media, with people praising the project as a 'beautiful reminder of the connection we share as humans, regardless of the borderlines drawn between us.'

Mexican TV star Mauricio Martíne shared video of the seesaw installation to Twitter, saying 'What happens on one side impacts the other.' The Texas-based Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES) also praised the border wall installation as a powerful reminder that 'we are all one.'Art is such a powerful vehicle for change,' RAICES said in a tweet. 'A beautiful installation at our southern border reminds us that: 'Actions that take place on one side have direct consequences on the other,' it added. Last week, the US Supreme Court has cleared the way for the Trump administration to use billions of dollars in Pentagon funds to build sections of a border wall with Mexico.

The court’s five conservative justices gave the administration the green light to begin work on four contracts it has awarded using Defense Department money. Funding for the projects had been frozen by lower courts while a lawsuit over the money proceeded. The case the Supreme Court ruled in began after the 35-day partial government shutdown that started in December of last year. Trump ended the shutdown in February after Congress gave him approximately $1.4 billion in border wall funding.But the amount was far less than the $5.7 billion he was seeking, and Trump then declared a national emergency to take cash from other government accounts to use to construct sections of wall.

The money Trump identified includes $3.6 billion from military construction funds, $2.5 billion in Defense Department money and $600 million from the Treasury Department’s asset forfeiture fund. The case before the Supreme Court involved just the $2.5 billion dollars in Defense Department funds, which the administration says will be used to construct more than 100 miles of fencing.
 
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Could you imagine being dumb enough to vote for this shitbag based on his history of stellar business acumen, stalwart integrity, and sincere honesty? You'd have to be brain damaged to believe trump regarding anything, other than his deep, deep, deep desire to fuck ivanka.
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UNCjigga

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Could you imagine being dumb enough to vote for this shitbag based on his history of stellar business acumen, stalwart integrity, and sincere honesty? You'd have to be brain damaged to believe trump regarding anything, other than his deep, deep, deep desire to fuck ivanka.
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It took me a long time (roughly 2.5 years) to get to this point, but I don’t blame the voters who actually voted for him once. Maybe America in their minds was such a failure that an outsider was the only solution to fix Washington.

But “fool you twice”...anyone voting for him in 2020 either hates America and wants it to fail, or is too stupid to vote.
 
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It took me a long time (roughly 2.5 years) to get to this point, but I don’t blame the voters who actually voted for him once. Maybe America in their minds was such a failure that an outsider was the only solution to fix Washington.

But “fool you twice”...anyone voting for him in 2020 either hates America and wants it to fail, or is too stupid to vote.
I get that, I do. Wanting to shake things up. Step away from a lifelong government official. I back that 100%, but with trump? No, fuck that. My dog shits out a more viable candidate than him.
He's been a racist cvnt for decades, a failed businessman for decades, a shitty conman for decades. No. Not even once. Unless you're a racist shitbag and you are single-minded in getting your ideologies pushed.