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Only if you have a "D" next to your name.Isn't being a traitor grounds for Impeachment, removal, disqualification and imprisonment?
Only if you have a "D" next to your name.Isn't being a traitor grounds for Impeachment, removal, disqualification and imprisonment?
If China sees HK and Taiwan as the same (part of China), why on earth would they stop at HK? Remember that this country is actively committing atrocities within their own country. They likely regard any resistant Taiwanese the same way they do the Uighurs.
You're more confident than I am regarding that, but of course we won't know what the future holds until it happens. All the same, I still think Trump will veto this, if only because he always seems to buddy-up next to the worst leaders on the planet.Taiwan is armed to the teeth with both domestically developed weapons and modern US made systems. Also they are an island nation. China would have to basically destroy it to take over and flipping the coin on if the US would sit it out is way too risky.
If China sees HK and Taiwan as the same (part of China), why on earth would they stop at HK? Remember that this country is actively committing atrocities within their own country. They likely regard any resistant Taiwanese the same way they do the Uighurs.
They might, recognition from the US that they're in the right over HK is exactly the kind of thing China would be willing to go back to near-status-quo with the US on the trade front for. They've been itching to consolidate HK and Taiwan into CN proper for decades.
Are we taking bets?
99.99% Trump will veto this one ... or just ignore it.
Congress, as a coequal branch of government has every right to help set the tone of our foreign policy.I think .....
The US Congress should be focusing on ... oh, I don't know, ... maybe ... the US?
I think .....
The US Congress should be focusing on ... oh, I don't know, ... maybe ... the US?
Yep, override it.The Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act passed the House with one dissenting vote. Passed the Senate unanimously. Trump may veto, he says. He doesn't want to make his "friend" Xi mad. And he's worried it will screw up his perfect trade deal.
President Trump Waffles On Hong Kong Democracy Bill Amid China Trade Talks
President Trump says he stands with democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. But he stopped short of pledging support for a pro-Hong Kong bill, saying it could complicate trade talks with China.www.npr.org
Trump doesn't believe in anything except money. Et cetera.
I hope he vetos and they override it.
Hong Kong was *always* going to be consolidated with the mainland. It's part of the damned agreement with the Brits. 2047 is the end date.
This is the truth.
It seems that nobody remembers what the agreement was. Hong Kong is part of China. They are having an internal problem. None of our business.
Bullshit but nice to see you so willing to abandon a bunch of folks fighting for their freedom. You remember the concept of freedom? Kinda what the US used to stand for, at least in theory. Thankfully, for folks like yourself, things like that no longer seems to matter. You can worry about important stuff like protecting the god emperor.
Bullshit but nice to see you so willing to abandon a bunch of folks fighting for their freedom. You remember the concept of freedom? Kinda what the US used to stand for, at least in theory. Thankfully, for folks like yourself, things like that no longer seems to matter. You can worry about important stuff like protecting the god emperor.
Are you ready to go to war with China?
I'm not abandoning anyone. They are not mine to abandon.
It would appear that they were abandoned By the UK and Northern Ireland who made the original deal with China.
Beijing tells Britain it has no ‘moral responsibility’ for Hong Kong
Beijing has dismissed the notion that Britain has any moral responsibility for Hong Kong after 1997, shortly after a top Chinese diplomat claimed the Joint Declaration that settled the city's future was already "void".www.scmp.com
Hysterical much?
I get it. You don't give a shit about a bunch of foreigners. Fuck 'em.
Obviously you don't "get it".
It was an agreement with UK, Northern Ireland and China. Not ours to police. Anyone with a couple of brain cells could have seen this coming years ago.
Hong Kong belongs to China as per the agreement.
The UK seems to be awful quiet about it...
Money talks, bullshit walks, until America and the rest of the west is ready to divest and boycott China like they did South Africa over human rights issues and abuses these bills are nothing more than virtue signaling pats on the back, If Trump veto's or not is irrelevant except to give Democrats Political ammunition while they benefit from cheap China goods like the republicans.Bullshit but nice to see you so willing to abandon a bunch of folks fighting for their freedom. You remember the concept of freedom? Kinda what the US used to stand for, at least in theory. Thankfully, for folks like yourself, things like that no longer seems to matter. You can worry about important stuff like protecting the god emperor.
Money talks, bullshit walks, until America and the rest of the west is ready to divest and boycott China like they did South Africa over human rights issues and abuses these bills are nothing more than virtue signaling pats on the back, If Trump veto's or not is irrelevant except to give Democrats Political ammunition while they benefit from cheap China goods like the republicans.