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zinfamous

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"Investigators discovered classified documents in two areas: Trump’s personal office above a ballroom and in a storage room near the pool. Sources say there were “boxes everywhere,” with some containing Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI). Those are considered some of the highest level of classified documents. "


These people are idiots. I mean, they must be, unless papers were arranged to be there for easy access to third party and thus treasonous.
Its one or the other... well it can be both.. its probably both.

yeah, no shit.

Trump: You know Amar, this i the best pool you've ever seen, the best pool! No one has a better pool!
Amar [close personal friend to MBS, needs no real credentials to visit an ex-POTUS]: Yes it's quite lovely. I've never seen such a thing.
Trump: Yes it's something, say, Tony! Tony! I was telling Amar about that stupid contractor that broke a wall in the pool house! Ahhahah! Take Amar to show him the poolhouse that I was telling him about!


etc.
 

zinfamous

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Major oversight on the founding fathers failing to foresee such a corrupt POTUS

nah, that's what the EC was for. ...it was to protect the possibility of "such a scoundrel," because if the people, in their unread wisdom, were to nominate such a Trump, then the vaunted EC could overrule them. Twas always the point.

....the best part about this all is that the reason the EC was established, and supported by the southern states that outright rejected the concept, is that they then get "voting rights for their animals," as they defined black human being slaves, because it is so unfair that their pure whiteness is vastly outnumbered in the north, because of course no animal would be allowed to vote. The EC, and the apportionment for EC votes, is still philosophically tied to the southern slave state principal that black humans are 3/5 of a person. It is the foundation of the EC and the only reason it was ever enshrined. The only reason.
 
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fskimospy

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nah, that's what the EC was for. ...it was to protect the possibility of "such a scoundrel," because if the people, in their unread wisdom, were to nominate such a Trump, then the vaunted EC could overrule them. Twas always the point.

....the best part about this all is that the reason the EC was established, and supported by the southern states that outright rejected the concept, is that they then get "voting rights for their animals," as they defined black human being slaves, because it is so unfair that their pure whiteness is vastly outnumbered in the north, because of course no animal would be allowed to vote. The EC, and the apportionment for EC votes, is still philosophically tied to the southern slave state principal that black humans are 3/5 of a person. It is the foundation of the EC and the only reason it was ever enshrined. The only reason.
The 3/5ths idea came from the north, not the south. The south wanted to count the slaves as full people for the purposes of representation, they just didn’t want them to be able to vote.
 

zinfamous

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The 3/5ths idea came from the north, not the south. The south wanted to count the slaves as full people for the purposes of representation, they just didn’t want them to be able to vote.

you're right. I fucked up. :D I was meant to rant about the founding fathers--the northern non-slave owning ones that demanded it, thus your saints are as dumb as you are, then got distracted by southerners...and lost the plot.

as I do. :(
 

trenchfoot

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The only thing I hear coming out of the Trump/FOX echo chamber is slimy half-ass excuses and baseless accusations so it looks like the AG at DOJ is doing a great job of tickling Trump's nut sack with a white hot rosebud tipped oxy/acety torch juuuuuusssst right. Not too close, not too far, just enough to make his nuts boil a bit. The more the Repubs bitch, moan and complain the more substantive and substantial the evidence against Trump must be.
 

trenchfoot

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I fear that most of the GOP are like my elderly parents who worship their leaders and believe everything they tell them to no matter how outrageous the claims might be.


The beauty (or horror) of it all is that the Repubs can only escalate their BS rhetoric as they try to out-Trump each other to win primaries. That makes them look outrageously silly to anyone outside the party including the independents. So when the general elections come along, these Repub candidates who have had to become maniacal raving retards to survive the prelims will look exactly like that competing against their opposition. If they're not gerrymandered safe or up to the eyeholes of their pointed white hoods in deep red country, that crazy-ass look they're sporting ain't gonna look too convincing to anyone other than the Trumpies that want them to be that way.
 

sandorski

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I don't have any numbers, but they are freely available.


View attachment 66193




Provisional data from CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics indicate there were an estimated 107,622 drug overdose deaths in the United States during 2021, an increase of nearly 15% from the 93,655 deaths estimated in 2020. The 2021 increase was half of what it was a year ago, when overdose deaths rose 30% from 2019 to 2020.

The new data show overdose deaths involving opioids increased from an estimated 70,029 in 2020 to 80,816 in 2021. Overdose deaths from synthetic opioids (primarily fentanyl), psychostimulants such as methamphetamine, and cocaine also continued to increase in 2021 compared to 2020.

You should ask yourself why so many Americans Demand this crap. Reagan sold you down the river. Not sure he intended it, but that was the result. This is how societies Cope. It's not well.
 

Puffnstuff

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You should ask yourself why so many Americans Demand this crap. Reagan sold you down the river. Not sure he intended it, but that was the result. This is how societies Cope. It's not well.
Most republicans probably don't even know or remember what Reagan did back in '86 when he handed out amnesty after which the actual numbers swole up well past the preenactment estimates.
 

cytg111

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it is not that Trump lost, it is the notion of a democrat winning that fuels their election lie obsessions. They simply do not want democrats in power, at all, period. And if believing in election lies gets them to where they want to be then so be it.

The sad truth is that R is a new breed of Anarchists. They will literally choose anything, including a Putinistic regime over giving power back to "the establishment" - what they view as the elite, the globalists, the progressives, the cabal, the illuminati, the anti christ, the space demons so on and so forth.

Its this rather common opinion we see all over the developed part of the world, in managing democracies, even in sets of people that is effectively living on UBI, that "how can it possibly get worse than it is right now?" - sentiment. (really? cant get worse? look at *you* in putins russia, now ask yourself, you still have teeth? Food in the fridge? A fridge?).

Its a note to the UBI proponents like myself, people need a sense of purpose, you cant just throw food and security after them. At the very least give them options to partake, educate etc.
Also, a psychopath will come along and recognize their truest worth to him self; their voice, their vote. And subvert them into a cult. (no. Not Trump. Murdoch.)
 

amenx

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Michael Cohen, former Trump attorney thinks the real reason Trump stole the docs is that he sees them as a potential benefit to him. That if he were sent to jail and not pardoned, he would release the docs to the U.S.'s adversaries. Basically he was intending to hold the country's national security as hostage until things are resolved favorably for him.

 
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Michael Cohen, former Trump attorney thinks the real reason Trump stole the docs is that he sees them as a potential benefit to him. That if he were sent to jail and not pardoned, he would release the docs to the U.S.'s adversaries. Basically he was intending to hold the country's national security as hostage until things are resolved favorably for him.


Whoa that’s super dark
The child like simplicity of the plan makes this statement believable
 

Jaskalas

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Its a note to the UBI proponents like myself, people need a sense of purpose, you cant just throw food and security after them.

Okay, then they need to pray 12 times a day to the flying spaghetti monster. Poof, their UBI is a gift from god.
Whatever the morons need to hear to not burn the place down.

I imagine we think of "purpose" differently. I wonder what context you used for it.
Do you mean that they need some BS to believe in, or that they need some labor to keep them busy?

I don't agree with the latter idea, it certainly does not apply to everyone. And those who do... it may be their Ego coping with the futility of their daily struggle. Telling them they needed it. Those who were never conscripted into that life style may not be afflicted at all. To the notion that they must keep busy. OTOH, if you're talking purpose more ideologically... other than drafting them into a cult, to our own benefit, not sure what that looks like.
 

HomerJS

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We need to sticky the media bias bell curve so when someone cites a source it’s believable if taken from the center portion
 

rommelrommel

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The sad truth is that R is a new breed of Anarchists. They will literally choose anything, including a Putinistic regime over giving power back to "the establishment" - what they view as the elite, the globalists, the progressives, the cabal, the illuminati, the anti christ, the space demons so on and so forth.

Its this rather common opinion we see all over the developed part of the world, in managing democracies, even in sets of people that is effectively living on UBI, that "how can it possibly get worse than it is right now?" - sentiment. (really? cant get worse? look at *you* in putins russia, now ask yourself, you still have teeth? Food in the fridge? A fridge?).

Its a note to the UBI proponents like myself, people need a sense of purpose, you cant just throw food and security after them. At the very least give them options to partake, educate etc.
Also, a psychopath will come along and recognize their truest worth to him self; their voice, their vote. And subvert them into a cult. (no. Not Trump. Murdoch.)

They certainly aren’t Anarchists. They fucking love government cracking down on anyone that isn’t them.
 

trenchfoot

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I fear that most of the GOP are like my elderly parents who worship their leaders and believe everything they tell them to no matter how outrageous the claims might be.


The GOP spin machine has successfully blurred the line between being faithful to a God and being faithful to a morally bankrupt political version of a hyena. The Repub's faith, having no difference between the two is what's so dangerous about their mindset. They see Trump of all people as a messenger from the Heavens, a Godsend fer cry'in out loud.

This I lay directly at the feet of their clergy of whom have their own agenda irt how much leverage they can gather up from their flock of faith based legions and applying that influence toward breaking down the Constitutional wall between Church and State. If that ever happens, it's plausible that there will be legislation passed that favors the prevailing religion of the nation and laws will be created that would, in some specious insidious fashion make being an atheist comparable to being a traitor, a lower class of citizen that should have no right to vote unless they conform to their theocratic leadership in DC.
 
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eelw

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The GOP spin machine has successfully blurred the line between being faithful to a God and being faithful to a morally bankrupt political version of a hyena.
I always bring this up but during the 2016 campaign, supporters always get asked about his infidelity. What, I’m not voting him for Pope!!! Like shouldn’t POTUS be held to the highest standards?
 

BoomerD

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and if you want to keep him there no way we can elect a Republican President again until he dies. They can't be trusted to uphold the rule of law and they would pardon him.

"No one is above the law" would go out the window

Convict him on state charges as well...T
I have seen more 4 letter words on this forum than I care to remember. I personally do not care about language. Why am I the only forum member here that gets put in time out for 48 hours for using foul language once every 2 years? I am requesting immunity .

There is but one legitimate venue for "commenting" on moderator actions, the aptly named Moderator Discussions.

Perknose
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Could it be WHERE you used said foul language? I let fly with " The F Bomb" in the video card forum...and got "sent to Tahiti" for 3 days.
 

Amol S.

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What secret documents were taken and what did they pertain to?
Were they or were they not declassified?
What was specified in the warrant?
Why were Trumps passports taken?
Why wasn't Trump arrested when the classified documents were found?

I've read "experts" claim opposing points of view on all of those questions. Which experts do I trust?
Clearly anyone that claims Trump is a criminal will be the correct expert here, but you fellows have been talking about Trumps obvious guilt in several crimes and acts of treason for years, but Trump still hasn't been charged with a crime or sat before a jury.

I want a trial, I want everything laid out for the whole world to see. I want the charges listed and the evidence presented. I want to know who what when where and why. If Trump is guilty, I want his fat ass in jail, if he's not I don't want to hear any more about it.
Reads this as BHAAAAAAAA! BHAAAAAAAAA! BHAAAAAAAAAA!

Hands Greenman some grass and pats them while saying "nice sheep".
 
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