Trump is just a symptom and not the disease

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Blue_Max

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So you think media only means TV?

Seriously?

...which is your way of agreeing that the progressive left utterly dominates television. Other voices have to go to other sources just to be heard and STILL face censorship by progressives shutting down their platforms (mass de-monetization and mass channel deletion on YooToob for example.)

...or by rioting when they don't want a speaker with different opinions, views, or data.
 

Blue_Max

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Agreed. I think the more important question is why so many people actually voted for him. What brought them to that point? Calling them a stupid minority is sticking your head in the sand. Very nearly half of the voters in the election voted for him. That is a number that shouldn't be ignored by intelligent people. I'm sure a lot of them held their noses when they did it but it still begs the question what brought many people in this country that had elected its first black president 8 years before to that point?

Leaders like Trump or La Pen are rare... the few who are willing to ignore the rules of political correctness and point to what IS a problem and CALL it a problem.

Calling a spade a spade is "offensive" to some. Well too bad. Ignore a problem, it becomes a bigger problem.

A lot of people can see problems for what they are and are sick and tired of being told, "Just ignore it. No problem. Everything is fine." As flawed as Trump (etc) is, at least it's refreshing to get TRUTH instead of PC bullcrap for once.
 

agent00f

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...which is your way of agreeing that the progressive left utterly dominates television. Other voices have to go to other sources just to be heard and STILL face censorship by progressives shutting down their platforms (mass de-monetization and mass channel deletion on YooToob for example.)

...or by rioting when they don't want a speaker with different opinions, views, or data.


It's simply a reality that creative newer mediums are dominated by creative people. Visionaries who think for a living are hardly ever going to be conservative. Don't worry you guys will still have AM radio.
 
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Blue_Max

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It's simply a reality that creative newer mediums are dominated by creative people. Visionaries who think for a living are hardly ever going to be conservative. Don't worry you guys will still have AM radio.
Heh.... pity the "creativity" on your side consists primarily of promoting your causes, twisting reality itself to support your narratives, creative "arguing" techniques, slam poetry, and how to play the ukulele.
 

agent00f

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Heh.... pity the "creativity" on your side consists primarily of promoting your causes, twisting reality itself to support your narratives, creative "arguing" techniques, slam poetry, and how to play the ukulele.

No, that's why for example why conservatives don't even come close to cracking double digits as percentile of scientists. The same is true for top tier creative talent for which competition is fierce.

There's no mystery how backwards ideas are fit for backward minds, except maybe for minds backwards enough; also no mystery why that's the case.
 

zzyzxroad

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Leaders like Trump or La Pen are rare... the few who are willing to ignore the rules of political correctness and point to what IS a problem and CALL it a problem.

Calling a spade a spade is "offensive" to some. Well too bad. Ignore a problem, it becomes a bigger problem.

A lot of people can see problems for what they are and are sick and tired of being told, "Just ignore it. No problem. Everything is fine." As flawed as Trump (etc) is, at least it's refreshing to get TRUTH instead of PC bullcrap for once.

It would be refreshing if anything out of trump's mouth was truthful.
 

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Agreed. I think the more important question is why so many people actually voted for him. What brought them to that point? Calling them a stupid minority is sticking your head in the sand. Very nearly half of the voters in the election voted for him. That is a number that shouldn't be ignored by intelligent people. I'm sure a lot of them held their noses when they did it but it still begs the question what brought many people in this country that had elected its first black president 8 years before to that point?

Change. They were not happy with the system and they wanted to send an outsider rather than a typical career politician to Washington. Similar to Brexit and the AT Mod's Culture of Change movement, they were unhappy with the way things were going and wanted things to change.
 

Jhhnn

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Agreed. I think the more important question is why so many people actually voted for him. What brought them to that point? Calling them a stupid minority is sticking your head in the sand. Very nearly half of the voters in the election voted for him. That is a number that shouldn't be ignored by intelligent people. I'm sure a lot of them held their noses when they did it but it still begs the question what brought many people in this country that had elected its first black president 8 years before to that point?

8 years of Republican obstructionism coupled with one faux scandal after the other?
 

SMOGZINN

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the few who are willing to ignore the rules of political correctness and point to what IS a problem and CALL it a problem.

The reason that it is not politically correct to point out these problems is because they are only problems for the increasingly minority of people who are very white, moderately wealthy, predominantly Christian, adamantly heterosexual, and mostly male.
 

Blue_Max

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The reason that it is not politically correct to point out these problems is because they are only problems for the increasingly minority of people who are very white, moderately wealthy, predominantly Christian, adamantly heterosexual, and mostly male.
Yeah, you have a point. So when progressives say "those people are bad! Fcuk those people!" it's no longer a big deal when they get raped, plundered, murdered and taken over. [glances over at most of Europe] "....yeah. They deserved it."
 

Jhhnn

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Change. They were not happy with the system and they wanted to send an outsider rather than a typical career politician to Washington. Similar to Brexit and the AT Mod's Culture of Change movement, they were unhappy with the way things were going and wanted things to change.

Half crazed fools running into the arms of the Devil.
 

nickqt

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...which is your way of agreeing that the progressive left utterly dominates television. Other voices have to go to other sources just to be heard and STILL face censorship by progressives shutting down their platforms (mass de-monetization and mass channel deletion on YooToob for example.)

...or by rioting when they don't want a speaker with different opinions, views, or data.
Alternative alternative fact: Limbaugh and Hannity shit directly into the skulls of close to 30 million of your PerpetualWhiteMaleVictim compatriots in the United States every single day via radio, leaving out, of course, the MostiestPerpetualWhiteMaleVictim in history, O'Reilly. That's leaving out the dozens of other conservatives with syndicated radio shows, like the, I'm guessing to victims like you, newly minted RINO Charlie Sykes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...rams#Popular_radio_shows_in_the_United_States

Fox News is the most watched cable news channel. MSNBC, the "liberal" counterpart, that has shit numbers in comparison, has Trump fluffer Joe Scarborough on for 3 hours straight, every day, with the "Squint and the Meat Puppet" show.

Alternative alternative fact: the US media is a BothSidesDoIt™ shitshow. They don't blame anyone, and instead point to an actual Republican or Republican party doing nasty things, and then point to some liberal blogger with 4 commenters who no one reads, before saying, BothSides are destroying the country by being partisan and telling lies.

The media is BothSidesDoIt™, because they exist to sell advertisements. That anyone would think that MAMMOTH fucking corporations like Disney, Comcast, Viacom, etc.,, are liberal is absolutely hilarious, and yet it's also scary and tragic because it shows just how far down the fucking rabbit hole those people...who ostensibly vote every election!...are in terms of participating in objective, observable reality with the rest of us.

But you've been handed the greatest talking point in history, that the big bad media is libruuul and out to getcha, so you go on attacking reality by poisoning the well.

There's nothing like cognitive dissonance and projection to allow someone to totally disregard objective, observable reality so as to never admit that you've been lied to by the people who you have defended for your entire life. Because holy shit would that make you feel silly and embarrassed.

Keep on keepin' on, victim.
 
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feralkid

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Agreed. I think the more important question is why so many people actually voted for him. What brought them to that point? Calling them a stupid minority is sticking your head in the sand. Very nearly half of the voters in the election voted for him. That is a number that shouldn't be ignored by intelligent people. I'm sure a lot of them held their noses when they did it but it still begs the question what brought many people in this country that had elected its first black president 8 years before to that point?


Agreed, however; "Begs the Question" doesn't mean what you think it does.

"Raises" the question, certainly would suffice.

Just a friendly FYI.
 

cyclohexane

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Yeah, you have a point. So when progressives say "those people are bad! Fcuk those people!" it's no longer a big deal when they get raped, plundered, murdered and taken over. [glances over at most of Europe] "....yeah. They deserved it."
What goes around comes around. The Europeans did the colonizing and raping in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries.

Now, a few brown people immigrating to their countries - and they scream like little pigs. Give me a break.
 
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