Trump Is Dangerous VS Republicans Are Dangerous

[agent00f]

For a while now many people have said that Trump was a "threat to our nation" due to his positions and rhetoric, and in the aftermath of his win the internet, TV and newspapers are filled with warnings/hyperbole about what kind of permanent damage Trump can do as president.

Yet one thing I have noticed about many of these warnings is often those making them don't specify what makes more Trump more dangerous than any other Republican candidate. The same criticisms that could apply to a Ted Cruz or even a Rubio get applied to Trump in a way that makes his threat seem unique when really it's just business as usual when a Republican is in the Whitehouse. For example, no matter what Republican won the election the nomination to the Supreme Court spot would go to someone the left wouldn't like, just like the left wouldn't like who any Republican picked at head of the EPA, and just like the left wouldn't like almost any electable Republican's position on climate change or social causes. Overall very few analysts define what is unique about Trumps threat, or why America or certain Americans won't survive Trump like they did W. They just mix it all together in a big bag of "this is bad."

It seems to me that a Trump administration does have the potential to introduce dangers that wouldn't apply to a Cruz or Bush administration- such as the legitimizing of alt-right leaders- and people should know what the unique threats are. Yet all those unique concerns gets mixed in with this big stale Jon Stewart created soup of "Republicans are bad" that makes it hard to take the unique Trump threats seriously (or even define what they are). Add on top the extreme levels of hyperbole about a Trump administration that isn't even possible given our checks and balances (like all the Nazi comparisons) and it creates a situation where any real danger related toi Trump might not be heeded because no one can wade through the partisan politics and storytelling to understand what they should fear.

So I ask the forum- what is uniquely dangerous about Trump that wouldn't apply to almost any other Republican candidate? Thank you in advance.

Trump showed changing the political map is possible, with those new red states on offer to any republican willing to campaign for white nationalism. These folks are evidently willing to win at any cost. The history books of this country offers some clues of what that white solidarity results in.

 

[ivwshane]

He said he would accept a clear result, even if he lost.

Which I'm sure you can totally articulate exactly what that means right? I'm sure in your mind winning the popular vote and losing the EC vote would have been viewed as "clear results" in trumps mind. Its not like he's complained about the EC ever!

/s

You are quite the cult member, loyal as fuck!

 

[buckshot24]

Which I'm sure you can totally articulate exactly what that means right? I'm sure in your mind winning the popular vote and losing the EC vote would have been viewed as "clear results" in trumps mind. Its not like he's complained about the EC ever!

/s

You are quite the cult member, loyal as fuck!

Anybody who wasn't a hack or willfully being a moron knew what he meant. If Trump lost, clearly, he would have accepted the results. If he lost like Al Gore, he would have contested, like Al Gore. "Losing" the popular vote is completely irrelevant to how people are elected president. He clearly won. Get over it.

 

[kage69]

How about the fact that he has absolutely no clue what the fuck he is talking about?

Exhibit A:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-look-donald-trumps-comments-about-refinanci/

Republicans don't care if their leaders have oatmeal for brains. See 2000-2008.

 

[zinfamous]

Anybody who wasn't a hack or willfully being a moron knew what he meant. If Trump lost, clearly, he would have accepted the results. If he lost like Al Gore, he would have contested, like Al Gore. "Losing" the popular vote is completely irrelevant to how people are elected president. He clearly won. Get over it.

Al Gore didn't contest. The state of FL triggered a recount automatically (I think there was a lawsuit from one or more of those counties with jacked-up ballots against the election board or something to challenge the votes, wait for all ballots, or smth).

The only thing Al Gore did is to not concede until FL was settled. The FL recount then eventually precipitated the SCOTUS decision. Basically, that was out of Al Gore's hands.

 

[buckshot24]

Al Gore didn't contest. The state of FL triggered a recount automatically (I think there was a lawsuit from one or more of those counties with jacked-up ballots against the election board or something to challenge the votes, wait for all ballots, or smth).

The only thing Al Gore did is to not concede until FL was settled. The FL recount then eventually precipitated the SCOTUS decision. Basically, that was out of Al Gore's hands.

Well, he did concede then he called back and "unconceded" when Florida got tighter, which was the correct call. If I recall correctly there wasn't an automatic state-wide recount provision in Florida. Also the Secretary of State of Florida certified a Bush win which Al Gore sued to have stopped. This is how I remember it, but I could be wrong due to faulty memory.

 

[sportage]

Ronald Reagan's slogan was... any guesses?
LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
And Reagan's little scam was going after the black women, calling them welfare moms.

One thing I can tell this Trump administration and its cult following, after watching the so called religious right embrace this morally mess of a man and watching so called religious Americans sign onto this abomination of a candidate, I can promise that no American ever again will tolerate these degenerates within Donald Trump's America to preach their morality unto others.
Not to women, not to blacks, not to gays, transgenders, illegals, Hispanics, refugees, nada, no more, never again.
No American, regardless of who they are or where they come from or what they believe, will tolerate Trump or any republican standing on two feet to preach their morals to the masses.
Or, to proclaim they possess the moral authority to judge and qualify the lifestyle of others.
Not thru words and absolutely not thru their exacting laws of hypocrisy.

I have never believed the religious extremist, those religious righties, those that wear religion on there sleeve like some Home Shopping Channel piece of fake jewelry, that they were religious at all.
They only use religion as a weapon and to judge others they feel less worthy.
I guess it makes them feel SPECIAL...
Well, we now know the truth behind their hypocrisy.
I've known this all along, but now the proof is out there for all to see.
If they are the reflection of religion in America, then satan is a happy camper indeed.

Never again from this election on need a single American put up with their hypocrisy of moral superiority.
For they have proven without a doubt that they possess absolutely no morals what so ever.
They nor their courts will be allowed to decide what any woman can or can not do with her body, nor decide for any American who they can or can not marry, nor define for any American what a family is or is not.
Those days have forever ended.
The time for shoving their hypocrisy down Americans throats has finally ended once and for all with the election of this abomination to humanity.
Or better knows as Donald Trump.

 

[ivwshane]

Well, he did concede then he called back and "unconceded" when Florida got tighter, which was the correct call. If I recall correctly there wasn't an automatic state-wide recount provision in Florida. Also the Secretary of State of Florida certified a Bush win which Al Gore sued to have stopped. This is how I remember it, but I could be wrong due to faulty memory.

Well your fucking memory sucks so.

 

[buckshot24]

Well your fucking memory sucks so.

Ok, what does that have to do with Florida in 2000?

 

[Chiropteran]

Problem with Trump is that if he just repeats what he did in his campaign when he's POTUS, the results aren't going to be good. The constant know-nothing statements on policy & history, race-based demonizing, needless Twitter rants and foreign policy saber rattling. He's mostly dangerous because he has the temperament of a kid, so as Commander in Chief he's pretty terrifying if you look at it purely from a military/nuclear POV. All of this will end up being bad for both the country and the Republican party, and we'll all be here in 2 or 4 yrs saying, well, that went about as predicted.

Are you 8 years old? Because if you were alive during the W Bush presidency you should know damn well that "know-nothing statements", while humorous, didn't destroy the nation then.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Ronald Reagan's slogan was... any guesses?
LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
And Reagan's little scam was going after the black women, calling them welfare moms.

Exactly. And don't forget the War on Crack where crack was given much worse punishments than cocaine so it basically became a war on minorities. Reagan pushed hard on that.

One thing I can tell this Trump administration and its cult following, after watching the so called religious right embrace this morally mess of a man and watching so called religious Americans sign onto this abomination of a candidate, I can promise that no American ever again will tolerate these degenerates within Donald Trump's America to preach their morality unto others.
Not to women, not to blacks, not to gays, transgenders, illegals, Hispanics, refugees, nada, no more, never again.
No American, regardless of who they are or where they come from or what they believe, will tolerate Trump or any republican standing on two feet to preach their morals to the masses.
Or, to proclaim they possess the moral authority to judge and qualify the lifestyle of others.
Not thru words and absolutely not thru their exacting laws of hypocrisy.

I think most of the so-called culture war was lost prior to this election. Obama buried the axe in it his last term. Except for abortion for some reason, that one is very sticky.

They nor their courts will be allowed to decide what any woman can or can not do with her body, nor decide for any American who they can or can not marry, nor define for any American what a family is or is not.
Those days have forever ended.

It is most likely whatever judge Trump picks will be the deciding vote on all of those things.

 

[First]

Are you 8 years old? Because if you were alive during the W Bush presidency you should know damn well that "know-nothing statements", while humorous, didn't destroy the nation then.

I love how you pointed to just a fifth of my argument, ignored the rest (since it is indisputable).

And no, I'm much older/smarter than you.