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fskimospy

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He can claim it from a cell next to Cohen but as a security threat his communications will of necessity need to be limited. He can have his SS security and be in isolation for his own protection for the rest of his life, or so I hope.

Oh, after he is out of office he's in deep shit. I was referring to what he could do while in office where they can't arrest him.
 

zinfamous

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He can claim it from a cell next to Cohen but as a security threat his communications will of necessity need to be limited. He can have his SS security and be in isolation for his own protection for the rest of his life, or so I hope.

Just inject him with a permanent sedative, strap some VR goggles to his face so the only thing he sees for the rest of his barely-waking life are images of himself, saying his own name over and over again, and he'll be happy and no one's problem anymore. Hell, he probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference from how he currently sees the world today!
 

Viper1j

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I think he's going to pull a Snowden. He'll jump on Air Force One to "summit" with Vlad, and just never come back, and try to keep the plane.

Oh, after he is out of office he's in deep shit. I was referring to what he could do while in office where they can't arrest him.

You're thinking of the federal level. They can and will arrest him at the state level, although I would guess that something would have to be worked out with the Secret Service, and he would be allowed to turn himself in.

I wonder how long Melania is going to stay after he's in jail? Or will she just move Hank in?
 

Commodus

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Oh, after he is out of office he's in deep shit. I was referring to what he could do while in office where they can't arrest him.

I'm still fascinated by the growing likelihood that Trump is the first President who'll face charges the moment he's out of office, and that he may be the first to make a truly ungracious exit (Nixon would be dignified by comparison) as a result. He could bow out properly... or he could do what Viper imagined and make a beeline for a country without an extradition treaty. I half-expect him to make a mad dash away from the Marine helicopter and hop in a hidden car that speeds him to the private airport where he'll try to make his escape.
 

trenchfoot

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The only problem Trump has with the IRS is that he can't fake his returns like he fakes his way through his life.

And besides, even if he had a sudden case of crippling amnesia he'd still be an asshole scammer looking for the next sucker to fleece. It's inbred. This is Trump the man child who's always looking for lavish approval that he doesn't get, deserve or earn so he heaps it on himself. I'll repeat for emphasis: The shithead loser HEAPS PRAISE ON HIMSELF or forces his hirelings to do it on a regular basis. Who the fvck does that kind of shit?

AND he's the President of the United States with the support of millions. Howz'zat for handing an ignoramus four year old spoiled beat child an arsenal of nuclear tipped missiles, hair triggers included.

I mean, that mentally crippled egomaniac wanted to spend millions of our tax dollars so he could have a large sharply dressed contingent of our nation's finest military members parade in front of him and salute him as the hero CIC who enjoys caressing and sucking on Putin's nutsack while giving the 'Lil Rocket Man an executive style hand job fer cry'in out loud.
 

fskimospy

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I'm still fascinated by the growing likelihood that Trump is the first President who'll face charges the moment he's out of office, and that he may be the first to make a truly ungracious exit (Nixon would be dignified by comparison) as a result. He could bow out properly... or he could do what Viper imagined and make a beeline for a country without an extradition treaty. I half-expect him to make a mad dash away from the Marine helicopter and hop in a hidden car that speeds him to the private airport where he'll try to make his escape.

I think if he loses he’ll try and pull a fast one where he resigns and has Pence pardon him. Then he will avoid New York and stay in friendly states where he will demand they not abide be extradition agreements.

I’m not kidding.
 
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I think if he loses he’ll try and pull a fast one where he resigns and has Pence pardon him. Then he will avoid New York and stay in friendly states where he will demand they not abide be extradition agreements.

I’m not kidding.

I agree, I could easily see the President resigning minutes before next President is sworn in and treating Pence like a Cuck one final time. Basically not enough time to do anything Presidential but just barely enough time to sing a pardon.
 

fskimospy

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I agree, I could easily see the President resigning minutes before next President is sworn in and treating Pence like a Cuck one final time. Basically not enough time to do anything Presidential but just barely enough time to sing a pardon.

And while in a normal world this would lead to a stain on Pence for the rest of his life this lawlesss action that provides future presidents with a blueprint to commit crimes with impunity would very likely be celebrated by conservatives.
 

Viper1j

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I think if he loses he’ll try and pull a fast one where he resigns and has Pence pardon him. Then he will avoid New York and stay in friendly states where he will demand they not abide be extradition agreements.

I’m not kidding.
New York would immediately move to seize Trump Tower and any other NY properties and freeze all his money in the state.

Can you imagine a homeless Donny? Sleeping in a tent?

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And while in a normal world this would lead to a stain on Pence for the rest of his life this lawlesss action that provides future presidents with a blueprint to commit crimes with impunity would very likely be celebrated by conservatives.

Be great if Pence manned up for once and didn’t sign a pardon. However it’s impossible to think Pence would be capable of being a man.
 

SMOGZINN

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I think if he loses he’ll try and pull a fast one where he resigns and has Pence pardon him. Then he will avoid New York and stay in friendly states where he will demand they not abide be extradition agreements.

I’m not kidding.

Pence can only pardon him from federal crimes, If they go through with it Trump is going to be facing charges from the state of NY.
Personally, I doubt he will ever face any real charges. Once he is out of office some strings will be pulled, some palms greased, some threats leveled against politicians, and it will all go away. The rich and powerful rarely face any real punishment.
 

Viper1j

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Pence can only pardon him from federal crimes, If they go through with it Trump is going to be facing charges from the state of NY.
Personally, I doubt he will ever face any real charges. Once he is out of office some strings will be pulled, some palms greased, some threats leveled against politicians, and it will all go away. The rich and powerful rarely face any real punishment.

You're speaking of people that haven't managed to piss off the planet.

That's not Trump.
 
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Pence can only pardon him from federal crimes, If they go through with it Trump is going to be facing charges from the state of NY.
Personally, I doubt he will ever face any real charges. Once he is out of office some strings will be pulled, some palms greased, some threats leveled against politicians, and it will all go away. The rich and powerful rarely face any real punishment.

This is purely speculation.

I agree and in a lot of ways it would just be better if new President said “No charges provided you stop acting like a Retarded Agent. Keep your mouth shut and no tweeting” then no fines or jail time.
 

Greenman

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I think they will be turned over eventually but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is fought tooth and nail by Trump's attorneys as well and results in a significant delay.

Whatever is in them there is one thing that Trump has been absolutely consistent about - he is terrified of any external scrutiny of his finances.
Except by the IRS, I'm pretty sure they have them.
 

fskimospy

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Except by the IRS, I'm pretty sure they have them.

Yes but what makes you think the IRS has scrutinized them?

I mean Paul Manafort should be a pretty obvious example of how people can get away with egregious tax crime in plain sight.
 

Greenman

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Yes but what makes you think the IRS has scrutinized them?

I mean Paul Manafort should be a pretty obvious example of how people can get away with egregious tax crime in plain sight.
The only info I have to go on is Trump saying he's under audit, that's scrutiny. I don't know if it's true or not, though I assume the IRS would correct the record if it were false.
Based on the amount of time that's passed, he either has a tax return that runs into thousands of pages, or our fine people at the IRS are taking a very hard look at the information. There may be a third option of which I'm unaware.
 

BonzaiDuck

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DEEP STATE!
FAKE NEWS!

HILLARY!


HIL LAR RY!!!

No seriously, why do millions of people still believe this guy is a decent human being and a good president?
We've heard their sociopathic response to that again and again since the election.

"He doesn't have to be a decent human being."
"We just want him in there to 'Shake Things Up'."
"The purpose of the presidency has nothing to do with setting an example for kids."
"We don't care if he's a philandering rapist, money-launderer, tax fraud and traitor siding with a foreign adversary. We just want OUR Supreme Court stacked."

The litany of the same thought continues with innumerable examples. They have no thought about the rest of us. We don't exist as "The American People". Only they deserve such recognition. Not only will they refuse to compromise, but they poise themselves with an intention to offend. When you "talk back", they whine "Can't we agree to disagree?"

That's why I say that their toxic culture must, as Bob DiNiro put it, get a reply punch in the nose.

Boycott and destroy Trumpie business, and get people on board with the notion that there are more important things than money and the employment these America-hating sociopaths can provide. The states in which they're strongest provide only about 35% of the GDP. In states like California, only about 35% of the electorate support Trump. They're a toxic minority, and they need to be splashed with the same poison.

Call them out and embarrass them in public.

Shun them in church.

Tell your kids to belittle their kids.

Explain to them that you don't count them as Americans.

Generally -- find targets of opportunity and legally ruin their day.
 
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dawp

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I think if push comes to shove people will be downright shocked at how much he is willing to sacrifice to keep his finances hidden until after the 2020 election. (or until so close to it that nobody has the time to analyze them anyway)
I doubt he'll ever willingly release them. he said he would before and never did.
 

fskimospy

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The only info I have to go on is Trump saying he's under audit, that's scrutiny. I don't know if it's true or not, though I assume the IRS would correct the record if it were false.

Trump lies about everything so what he says is meaningless. As for the IRS I'm pretty sure their policies prohibit them from discussing if an individual taxpayer is under audit. Anyway though, confirmation by the IRS is entirely unnecessary as the IRS provides every entity it audits with a letter stating exactly that. Trump could prove his taxes were under audit at any time, but has chosen not to do so.

Based on the amount of time that's passed, he either has a tax return that runs into thousands of pages, or our fine people at the IRS are taking a very hard look at the information. There may be a third option of which I'm unaware.

The most likely answer is that Trump is lying. Regardless, absolutely nothing prevents Trump from releasing his tax returns tomorrow. It's his own made up requirement that they can't be released while under audit which is a pretty transparent excuse to not release them at all.

I mean the sum total evidence that his finances are being scrutinized is Trump saying that they are and the IRS following its normal procedures. Considering Trump's word is worth less than nothing that means there's no evidence of it.
 

fskimospy

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It is the third option. By IRS rules the President's tax returns are under a constant state of audit. It is a protective measure.

Also important is the 'can't be released while under audit' is something Trump 100% made up. Whether or not they are under audit has no bearing on if they can be released.