K1052
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It's like you don't know the meaning of "urges" as a verb. It's very different than (paraphrasing) "Wear one of you want. Maybe it will help. I choose not to wear it because I have to meet with political leaders and it would be weird."He urged America not to follow the CDC advice if they wanted. Pretty much a distinction without a difference.
Yes. What a fool. Do you remember how many fools were saying this bullshit back in January and February? Dozens of articles and "experts" comparing it to flu and saying the flu was worse. I was following this closely and I could only face-palm every time I encountered those. The bigger issue is, Trump should have had better information than someone like me. He didn't. He's a fucking fool, and he always has been.He also said COVID-19 is no worse then the flu. That was a lie since scientists already knew that wasn't true.
He was an absolute fool to even think "15" was anywhere close to the actual number. There was almost no testing at that point.He also said 15 cases would be down to 0 in a few days and scientists knew that wasn't true.
He's obviously talking about travel restrictions announced at a time when China (and WHO, at the behest of China) were still saying not to. I mean, obviously.He also said "I acted early with a China travel ban" We've already proven in here that is another blatant lie.
I could list 30 more. Maybe the media needs to count all Trump's COVID-19 lies since they are costing American lives.
I don’t blame him, be weird having the president at a presser wearing a mask which likely isn’t needed.
I strongly disagree at this point. It sends a message to the populace about what they should be doing by example.
I mean even Xi is doing it.
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When I was out yesterday ever 65 plus year old I saw was not wearing a face mask. Actually, I only saw maybe a few people wearing face mask.
Most people weren't wearing one.
Totally different than my experience yesterday at the store, I estimate 2/3rds were wearing masks. I was thinking who has all these masks in their home?
Lol, Trump just dunks on conservative voters non stop
The New York Times: Ignoring Expert Opinion, Trump Again Promotes Use of Hydroxychloroquine.
Ignoring Expert Opinion, Trump Again Promotes Use of Hydroxychloroquine (Published 2020)
The president’s advocacy of the anti-malarial drug has created tensions in his administration, and fears among doctors that it could unnecessarily expose patients to risks.www.nytimes.com
I'd wear a mask if there were any available.
Wearing face masks and China are totally different than the US
The worst is that The Dipshit in Chief is promoting taking medication prophylactically. There are no studies on prevention, there are definite side effects from long term use, and that is a sure way to guarantee a shortage should it prove helpful in treatment not to mention keeping it from patients who need it. Not to mention the fact that in promoting long term use of the antibiotic azithromycin he is accelerating the development of resistance which could make it ineffective if it turns out to be a beneficial part of a treatment regimen. There is already a lot of resistance from overuse to the extent that doctors can no longer prescribe it for pneumonia because of high resistance rates in this area. Get this POS of the stage.
Trump is going to make this so much worse. When they look back 50 years from now they won't view Trump favorably.
That is just a stupid comment!I don’t blame him, be weird having the president at a presser wearing a mask which likely isn’t needed.
You didn`t read the article once --I read the article, twice, but didnt see the quote where he urged Americans to also not follow the recommendation. Can someone quote it for me?
You didn`t read the article once --
He could not see himself greeting "presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens" in the Oval Office while wearing one, he said.
He stressed that the guidance released on Friday was "voluntary".
"You do not have to do it," he said. "I don't think I'm going to be doing it."
You said -- but didnt see the quote where he urged Americans to also not follow the recommendation. Can someone quote it for me?Well, it IS voluntary, is it not? Also, yes I read that, but he also said ""You don't have to do it," he said. "I'm choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it and that's OK. It may be good. Probably will."
Him saying he personally wont is not "urging people to not follow advise. Especially when he clearly said 1. its a choice, and 2. what I just quoted.
edit: Trump says enough stupid things..I dont understand the need to take quotes out of context or, in this case, make shit up.
The thread title is that Trump is urging people not to follow CDC guidelines regarding masks, which is objectively false.Ok, I'll back up my statement by applying some pretty simple logic.
Government department recommends people take precautions. Trump downplays the precautions, and a leader should lead by example. Trump is saying he won't be taking the precaution, therefore that's what the people who listen to their leader will very likely do.
If he had even vaguely attempted to support the CDC then *maybe* one could lamely argue that he was taking a neutral position while also being informative (which would still be an extremely poor choice for a leader to take), but he didn't do that.
Also
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And he's even told people that Coronavirus is a "hoax"!
Fact check: Trump tries to erase the memory of him downplaying the coronavirus
The somber President Donald Trump of Monday's press conference bore little resemblance to the Trump who had relentlessly played down the coronavirus over the previous two months.edition.cnn.com
As a side note I find it very odd that you'd "agree 100%" with my final conclusion in the OP while attempting to dispute the first statement. If anything the final statement is far more extremist.
You said -- but didnt see the quote where he urged Americans to also not follow the recommendation. Can someone quote it for me?
Trump said -- "You do not have to do it," he said. "I don't think I'm going to be doing it." <--- Anytime you say -- you don`t have to do something, after it has been suggested that you do have or should do something -- that is considered to be urging Americans not to do it........
Ok, I'll back up my statement by applying some pretty simple logic.
Government department recommends people take precautions. Trump downplays the precautions, and a leader should lead by example. Trump is saying he won't be taking the precaution, therefore that's what the people who listen to their leader will very likely do.
If he had even vaguely attempted to support the CDC then *maybe* one could lamely argue that he was taking a neutral position while also being informative (which would still be an extremely poor choice for a leader to take), but he didn't do that.
Also
And
And he's even told people that Coronavirus is a "hoax"!
Fact check: Trump tries to erase the memory of him downplaying the coronavirus
The somber President Donald Trump of Monday's press conference bore little resemblance to the Trump who had relentlessly played down the coronavirus over the previous two months.edition.cnn.com
As a side note I find it very odd that you'd "agree 100%" with my final conclusion in the OP while attempting to dispute the first statement. If anything the final statement is far more extremist.
That is just a stupid comment!