Trump doc says Trump bodyguard, lawyer 'raided' his office, took medical files

[K1052]

From the bountiful land of totally bizarre Trump stories:

In February 2017, a top White House aide who was Trump's longtime personal bodyguard, along with the top lawyer at the Trump Organization and a third man, showed up at the office of Trump's New York doctor without notice and took all the president's medical records.

The incident, which Dr. Harold Bornstein described as a "raid," took place two days after Bornstein told a newspaper that he had prescribed a hair growth medicine for the president for years.

In an exclusive interview in his Park Avenue office, Bornstein told NBC News that he felt "raped, frightened and sad" when Keith Schiller and another "large man" came to his office to collect the president's records on the morning of Feb. 3, 2017. At the time, Schiller, who had long worked as Trump's bodyguard, was serving as director of Oval Office operations at the White House

Bornstein said he was not given a form authorizing the release of the records and signed by the president —known as a HIPAA release — which is a violation of patient privacy law. A person familiar with the matter said there was a letter to Bornstein from then-White House doctor Ronny Jackson, but didn't know if there was a release form attached.

Bornstein said that Trump cut ties with him after he told the New York Times that Trump takes Propecia, a drug for enlarged prostates that is often prescribed to stimulate hair growth in men. Bornstein told the Times that he prescribed Trump drugs for rosacea and cholesterol as well.


The story also quotes Bornstein recalling that he had told Rhona Graff, Trump's longtime assistant, "You know, I should be the White House physician."

After the story ran on February 1, 2017, Bornstein said Graff called him and said, "So you wanted to be the White House doctor? Forget it, you're out.' "

Two days after the story ran, the men came to his office.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...dyguard-lawyer-raided-his-office-took-n870351

And for the "blah blah unnamed sources lies" crowd the doc is on the record. Seems like totally normal behavior.

 

[thilanliyan]

Teflon Don

 

[Younigue]

Just asked about this on another thread. I'm not a thread starting kind of poster.

 

[Muse]

Teflon Don

I can't help thinking that at some point something very damaging and telling will stick to him. I'm hoping sooner than later.

 

[Muse]

Just asked about this on another thread. I'm not a thread starting kind of poster.

You should try it, judiciously. It can create excitement in your life, let me say, BTDT.

 

[Thebobo]

Rosacea eh? no wonder he has an orange face

 

[Younigue]

You should try it, judiciously. It can create excitement in your life, let me say, BTDT.

Nah. Haven't figured out how to link anything so I don't feel I deserve to be a thread starter.

 

[interchange]

This whole story stinks.

1. Why are we hearing about this 14 months after the incident?
2. Was there a criminal investigation? The act, if true as stated, is certainly criminal.
3. How is the disclosure of Trump's personal medical information to the NYT justified? Did Trump sign a release to them for this information? Even if legal, there are ethical questions.

 

[hal2kilo]

From the bountiful land of totally bizarre Trump stories:







https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...dyguard-lawyer-raided-his-office-took-n870351

And for the "blah blah unnamed sources lies" crowd the doc is on the record. Seems like totally normal behavior.

So Trump has goons. Wonder if one of them is Stormy's goon.

 

[Younigue]

Rosacea eh? no wonder he has orange face

That should make him Red not Orange.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

To play devil's advocate for a moment, the doc is blabbing about Trump's medical history and is decrying the "raid" as a HIPAA violation? Well, he certainly sounds like someone in Trump's circle.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I'm going to side with Trump here and I'd side with Trump even if the men roughed up the doctor while they were there. The doc is the one at fault, he's got no business talking about what he prescribes for a patient even if it's just aspirin and fish oil.

 

[Younigue]

This whole story stinks.

1. Why are we hearing about this 14 months after the incident?
2. Was there a criminal investigation? The act, if true as stated, is certainly criminal.
3. How is the disclosure of Trump's personal medical information to the NYT justified? Did Trump sign a release to them for this information? Even if legal, there are ethical questions.

I'm thinking it's stinking too but worth staying tuned in at least half heartedly for the time being.

 

[Younigue]

I'm going to side with Trump here and I'd side with Trump even if the men roughed up the doctor while they were there. The doc is the one at fault, he's got no business talking about what he prescribes for a patient even if it's just aspirin and fish oil.

But it's not ok for someone other than Trump himself to procure his records with out proper legal steps being taken. If true it only proves further that Trump doesn't think laws apply to him. That's a problem.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm going to side with Trump here and I'd side with Trump even if the men roughed up the doctor while they were there. The doc is the one at fault, he's got no business talking about what he prescribes for a patient even if it's just aspirin and fish oil.

I agree that the doctor should not have disclosed any information about Trump's treatment without his authorization and it's totally reasonable for Trump to want to remove his medical records from the doctor's possession. I'm not going to side with Trump sending some thugs over there to seize his records as that would be a crime.

 

[Thebobo]

That should make him Red not Orange.

Was thinking of the medicine he puts on it.

 

[Muse]

Nah. Haven't figured out how to link anything so I don't feel I deserve to be a thread starter.

OK, I'll try to explain ever so easy...

In your edit window highlight what you want to make a link by dragging your mouse over it with the left mouse button depressed. Then with your mouse (left button) click the box at the top of the edit window that has the two chain links (it's just to the right of the box with the A). Then copy your link's URL to your clipboard (if you don't already have it on the clipboard) and paste that into what popped up when you clicked the two-chainlinks box. Save, and it's done!

 

[Younigue]

Was thinking of the medicine he puts on it.

Ah.

I'm still thinking it's a self-tanning product he just can't say no to.

 

[interchange]

Well what kind of doc builds a long-term treatment relationship with a guy like Trump? I think the story could be wholly accurate making no one exactly innocent, but who knows where reality starts and ends here? A theme for Trump & co.

 

[allisolm]

Not about the raid, but isn't it a big patient privacy violation for that doctor to tell a newspaper what meds he was prescribing for Trump and what conditions he was prescribing meds for?

edit: Sorry. Brought up by others while I was looking at this and I forgot to refresh.

 

[Younigue]

OK, I'll try to explain ever so easy...

In your edit window highlight what you want to make a link by dragging your mouse over it with the left mouse button depressed. Then with your mouse (left button) click the box at the top of the edit window that has the two chain links (it's just to the right of the box with the A. Then copy your link's URL to your clipboard if you don't already have it there and paste that into what popped up when you clicked the two-chainlinks box. Save, and it's done!

I use a tablet. Mousing is too difficult for me these days. But thank you. I appreciate you trying to help.

 

[Younigue]

Not about the raid, but isn't it a big patient privacy violation for that doctor to tell a newspaper what meds he was prescribing for Trump and what conditions he was prescribing meds for?

Indeed but that doesn't allow anyone to come in and remove his records without following proper legal steps.

 

[K1052]

For the record I'm not siding with anybody. I'm just submitting a nuts Trumpland story for your viewing pleasure.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Just when you think that things can't possibly become more surreal....they do. Because of the Don I get to hear lots of jokes every morning to start my day with a smile and an aching side.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm going to side with Trump here and I'd side with Trump even if the men roughed up the doctor while they were there. The doc is the one at fault, he's got no business talking about what he prescribes for a patient even if it's just aspirin and fish oil.

Agreed