Trump decides to boot immigrants serving in the US military?

UNCjigga

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Lots of news coming out that Trump is quietly booting immigrants who volunteered to serve in the US armed forces and were promised a path to citizenship. Need to learn more about whether it's certain recruits (as a matter of discipline or security concerns) or a broader policy, but I would expect nothing less from a Cadet Bone Spurs who's been promoted to Commander in Thief.

This seems to be a new way of doing things for this Administration--they quietly roll-out a new policy, and when the press finds out or people start filing lawsuits, they deny that such a policy exists. What a bunch of ratfuckers.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/07/05/us-army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits/

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The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.

“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”
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Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

Spokespeople for the Pentagon and the Army said that, due to the pending litigation, they were unable to explain the discharges or respond to questions about whether there have been policy changes in any of the military branches.
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Eligible recruits are required to have legal status in the U.S., such as a student visa, before enlisting. More than 5,000 immigrants were recruited into the program in 2016, and an estimated 10,000 are currently serving. Most go the Army, but some also go to the other military branches.

edit: Added a "?" mark to the post title--after re-reading it I can understand how some Trump defenders would cry foul because there haven't been any official statements as to what the actual policy is.
 
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Jaskalas

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Lots of news coming out that Trump is quietly booting immigrants who volunteered to serve in the US armed forces and were promised a path to citizenship. Need to learn more about whether it's certain recruits (as a matter of discipline or security concerns) or a broader policy, but I would expect nothing less from a Cadet Bone Spurs who's been promoted to Commander in Thief.

This seems to be a new way of doing things for this Administration--they quietly roll-out a new policy, and when the press finds out or people start filing lawsuits, they deny that such a policy exists. What a bunch of ratfuckers.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/07/05/us-army-quietly-discharging-immigrant-recruits/

A promise was made in the name of our country, with the honor and obligation of our military. Once inducted those men and women need to be treated as our equals. They serve us and we need to honor them. I could understand not recruiting people, but to invite them in to the military and then throw them out is dishonorable.

The men responsible need to be fired.
The President responsible needs to be impeached.
 
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PottedMeat

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it's one thing to close the door to future potential recruits, but that's fubar to do it to those already in the program

they'll go home and tell their friends and relatives the US gov't goes back on its word

Defense Department had not completed background checks on them
what a bullshit reason.
 

trenchfoot

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it's one thing to close the door to future potential recruits, but that's fubar to do it to those already in the program

they'll go home and tell their friends and relatives the US gov't goes back on its word


what a bullshit reason.

With Trump at the helm and hellbent on erasing every single thing that has Obama's DNA on it and/or that has the stamp of approval by the Dems, having the US gov't (Trump) going back on its word is much more than a possibility, it's a guarantee written by, for and of Trump and his lapdog Repub legislature.
 

Jhhnn

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A promise was made in the name of our country, with the honor and obligation of our military. Once inducted those men and women need to be treated as our equals. They serve us and we need to honor them. I could understand not recruiting people, but to invite them in to the military and then throw them out is dishonorable.

The men responsible need to be fired.
The President responsible needs to be impeached.

The Trump admin? Dishonorable? Shamelessly so, I'm afraid. This is just one small facet of it.
 

balloonshark

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We're kicking immigrants and gays out of the military while alienating our allies. It won't be long before the draft comes back and Trump voters and their children will bear the brunt of the burden. Simmer on that thought a while Trump supporters.
 

SP33Demon

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edit: Added a "?" mark to the post title--after re-reading it I can understand how some Trump defenders would cry foul because there haven't been any official statements as to what the actual policy is.
Good question, where is the actual policy? Also, why would we have any reason to think that everyone who enters the military *will not be a security risk*? That is already stupid on its face. Of course the Army is going to find some people out of the 1,018,000 people that fill its ranks, it's basic math - 40/1,018,000. Hell even 40/5000 from the 2016 program = less than 1%. You realize that is within a reasonable margin of error for security threats?

Further punctuating the point, from your own link:
Stock said the service members she’s heard from had been told the Defense Department had not managed to put them through extensive background checks, which include CIA, FBI and National Intelligence Agency screenings and counterintelligence interviews. Therefore, by default, they do not meet the background check requirement.

Faux outrage = entertaining. But keep spinning such a miniscule percentage, even after the facts are right before your eyes.
 

Jhhnn

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Good question, where is the actual policy? Also, why would we have any reason to think that everyone who enters the military *will not be a security risk*? That is already stupid on its face. Of course the Army is going to find some people out of the 1,018,000 people that fill its ranks, it's basic math - 40/1,018,000. Hell even 40/5000 from the 2016 program = less than 1%. You realize that is within a reasonable margin of error for security threats?

Further punctuating the point, from your own link:
Stock said the service members she’s heard from had been told the Defense Department had not managed to put them through extensive background checks, which include CIA, FBI and National Intelligence Agency screenings and counterintelligence interviews. Therefore, by default, they do not meet the background check requirement.

Faux outrage = entertaining. But keep spinning such a miniscule percentage, even after the facts are right before your eyes.

What part of dishonorable do you fail to comprehend?
 

SP33Demon

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it's one thing to close the door to future potential recruits, but that's fubar to do it to those already in the program

they'll go home and tell their friends and relatives the US gov't goes back on its word


what a bullshit reason.
So the CIA, FBI, and NIA are bullshit b/c they're rejecting people from other countries as security threats? Make up your minds, Democrats. I thought you were all about Comey's FBI, and now you're not? lulz You realize that you are complaining about literally less than 1% of the 5000 immigrants from the 2016 program, right? Would it be within the margin of error for 1% of applicants to be deemed a security threat through relatives in other countries? Be honest.
 

SP33Demon

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What part of dishonorable do you fail to comprehend?
You didn't read the article, ask me how I know.
"However, immigration attorneys told the AP that many immigrants let go in recent weeks were an “uncharacterized discharge,” neither dishonorable nor honorable."
womp womp
 

Jhhnn

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You didn't read the article, ask me how I know.
"However, immigration attorneys told the AP that many immigrants let go in recent weeks were an “uncharacterized discharge,” neither dishonorable nor honorable."
womp womp

Deliberately obtuse, huh?
 
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