Trump could still win this thing

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I hope nobody is getting too complacent. There are still months to go until the election, and this is the craziest race of my lifetime. Sure, Trump is way down now, but who knows what will happen next. Maybe there'll be a terrorist attack! Maybe Wikileaks really does have something big up their sleeves! Maybe the ghost of Vince Foster will gatecrash the debates! Or (and I know this is a long shot, but hear me out) maybe Trump actually develops a conscience!

Don't start doing victory laps yet.
 

glenn1

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I hope nobody is getting too complacent. There are still months to go until the election, and this is the craziest race of my lifetime. Sure, Trump is way down now, but who knows what will happen next. Maybe there'll be a terrorist attack! Maybe Wikileaks really does have something big up their sleeves! Maybe the ghost of Vince Foster will gatecrash the debates! Or (and I know this is a long shot, but hear me out) maybe Trump actually develops a conscience!

Don't start doing victory laps yet.

If WikiLeaks does have something big I hope you'll not stick to blind partisan loyalties and vote for Hillary anyway. Don't prove that politicians really can do something horrifically wrong, illegal, or unethical yet their base will still vote for them because 'the non-criminal is worse because they're from the other party.'
 

Subyman

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Neither is a criminal, you have to actually go to trial and be sentenced for that. Quit spouting the rhetoric.
 

Lash444

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Don't prove that politicians really can do something horrifically wrong, illegal, or unethical yet their base will still vote for them because 'the non-criminal is worse because they're from the other party.'

I take it you aren't voting for Trump then. Unless you somehow look at his business practices as ethical. Ill let you either acknowledge you are supporting neither, double down on that statement, or retract the requirement that your candidate be ethical. Because saying Trump is an ethical person is quite the stretch.
 

Cozarkian

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No,
Neither is a criminal, you have to actually go to trial and be sentenced for that. Quit spouting the rhetoric.

No, that is the definition of a convict. A person becomes a criminal when he or she commits a crime, regardless of whether he or she is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
 

Zor Prime

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Everyone knows Trump won't win. No need to get up and go vote that day, it's basically a done deal.
 
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glenn1

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I take it you aren't voting for Trump then. Unless you somehow look at his business practices as ethical. Ill let you either acknowledge you are supporting neither, double down on that statement, or retract the requirement that your candidate be ethical. Because saying Trump is an ethical person is quite the stretch.

Not voting for either for reasons I've laid out here repeatedly. Both are far too bellicose, terrible on civil liberties, and fail on sever other priorities for me this election given the Snowden leaks and increasing Big Brother nature of our government. Bernie Sanders was correct on most of those although his Robert Mugabe/Hugo Chavez-like class warfare rhetoric was worrisome. To me both Hillary's appearance of corruption plus numerous past lapses in judgement are troubling, and those policy differences are worrisome. But combined those two factors to me turn her into an unacceptable candidate. That's an entirely different thing than a candidate I don't find appealing but otherwise feel whose morals are above reproach and qualified (McCain, John Kerry, etc.)

That brings me to my choice this year - Gary Johnson, who is perhaps the best qualified Libertarian Party candidate in my lifetime. I don't agree with him 100% but enough to happily give him my vote without reservation.
 

Sonikku

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He could still win if only because his supporters are far more passionate and riled up in their sense of being endlessly mistreated compared to those on the left. Expect higher turnout among the right compared to their liberal opponents.
 

Texashiker

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hahahahahahahaha... omfg... hahahha
values... morals... you should do stand up

I can not vote for a group of people who support genocide.

What side of history will you be on?

1860, it is a white mans right to own slaves.

1940, it is legal to round up jews and send them to the camps.

1942, it is legal to round up all those Japs and send them to the camps.

Since people like you support abortion, chances are you would have supported the above.
 

MongGrel

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I can not vote for a group of people who support genocide.

What side of history will you be on?

1860, it is a white mans right to own slaves.

1940, it is legal to round up jews and send them to the camps.

1942, it is legal to round up all those Japs and send them to the camps.

Since people like you support abortion, chances are you would have supported the above.

There is that Tickle-Me-Elmo mode in action.
 
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I can not vote for a group of people who support genocide.

What side of history will you be on?

1860, it is a white mans right to own slaves.

1940, it is legal to round up jews and send them to the camps.

1942, it is legal to round up all those Japs and send them to the camps.

Since people like you support abortion, chances are you would have supported the above.

Chances are you'll cut and run like the coward you are once you're faced with actual facts. You do realize drumpf is/was/may be pro-choice, right toothless?
And he's leaning towards the same nationalistic rhetoric that initiated the camps both here and in germany

And while you LOVE to say "support abortion" or "pro abortion" the actual phrase is pro-choice. And yes, I am pro-choice. But not pro-abortion you fuckwit.
 

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Complacency is definitely a bad idea.

That said, Trump and his cretinous minions are going to get blown out of the water. Hopefully said mandate will knock a little sense into the far less Republican House in 2017 so we can get government functional again.
 
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Enforcing immigration law is "somehow" like the german death camps?

How did you make that connection?

I'll let you figure that out on your own toothless. Done playing your trollboy games. And no I am not wimping out, it's just you're a tiresome bore who is incapable of thinking beyond your bubble
 

alien42

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Sorry, my morals and values prevent me from voting democrat.

so your morals and values include killing thousands of innocent people, taking a shit on those who need help the most, and being a complete hypocrite, all while destroying the middle class and the economy.

for being such a huge piece of shit, you sure do have quite the superiority complex, not unlike Trump.
 

Texashiker

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so your morals and values include killing thousands of innocent people, taking a shit on those who need help the most, and being a complete hypocrite, all while destroying the middle class and the economy.

for being such a huge piece of shit, you sure do have quite the superiority complex, not unlike Trump.

Your comments are nothing more than slanders lies.

The difference between liberal democrats and republicans, is a republicans tolerance for BS is much lower than liberals. Take responsibility for your actions, work, have morals and family values.

Trump offers real solutions to long term problems. hillary does nothing but fear monger. Given enough ketchup liberal democrats would eat each other. Liberal democrats moral compass is like a leaf in the wind, blowing here and there, but lacking the deep roots of a tree to weather a storm.
 
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Your comments are nothing more than slanders lies.

The difference between liberal democrats and republicans, is a republicans tolerance for BS is much lower than liberals. Take responsibility for your actions, work, have morals and family values.

Trump offers real solutions to long term problems. hillary does nothing but fear monger. Given enough ketchup liberal democrats would eat each other. Liberal democrats moral compass is like a leaf in the wind, blowing here and there, but lacking the deep roots of a tree to weather a storm.

BULLSHIT. specifically
Trump offers real solutions to long term problems. hillary does nothing but fear monger.
You need to be a special kinda stupid to believe that, and you are that kind of special. Goddamn toothless, you never stop fucking that chicken do you? Seriously, you are one of the most moronic posters here, no matter what facts are laid out in front of you, no matter if you had those same facts tattoo'd on the inside of your eyelids, you would still willfully ignore them or claim media bias. It's a crime that you procreated and some of your dna is running around this world with your 'guidance'
You're a blight on this country and should be ashamed of your willful ignorance.
 

Texashiker

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BULLSHIT. specifically
You need to be a special kinda stupid to believe that, and you are that kind of special. Goddamn toothless, you never stop fucking that chicken do you? Seriously, you are one of the most moronic posters here, no matter what facts are laid out in front of you, no matter if you had those same facts tattoo'd on the inside of your eyelids, you would still willfully ignore them or claim media bias.

Facts as in what?

All hillary does is fear monger. She plays on the feelings of special interest groups, such as pandering to black lives matter.

Liberal democrats have no moral compass. As such they will morally bankrupt this nation. The only thing liberal democrats believe in is money. Give them enough money and they will offer their brothers and sisters up on a buffet bar.
 

Jhhnn

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I found this cartoon just for you, TH-

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cojb7b2WIAARgVD.jpg

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Texashiker

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Something nice about liberal democrats it is easy to spot their hypocrisy.

All those rich liberals say to build bridges rather than walls, then they go back to their home that has a wall around it. Why does hillary have a wall around her house? http://townhall.com/tipsheet/justin...llary-builds-a-wall-around-her-house-n2204239

Democrats oppose voter ID, but required ids at the DNC.

Democrats oppose a wall between mexico and the USA, but they built a wall around the DNC. Then there was a wall between the speakers and the crowd.

Gun control, but rich liberals have armed body guards.

If liberal democrats "really" believed what they preach, then let them practice what they preach.

If hillary "really" believed what she preached, then no armed guards, no ids required at the DNC, no wall around her house, no walls at the DNC,,,, etc. If she is elected president she will tear down the wall around the white house?
 
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