Trump calls for the extension of GOP term limits for Committee chairs

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Trump is digging his heels in, looking for ways to keep people from retiring!! Perhaps they are retiring so that they can clear their conscious of being labeled a Trump supporter...lol


WASHINGTON – Responding to a wave of retirements by GOP members of Congress, President Donald Trump called Monday for the House to change its rules to let senior lawmakers keep their committee chairmanships beyond the current six-year term limit.


Trump, who made "drain the swamp" a mantra of his 2016 campaign, said that the self-imposed limit "forces great people" to leave too early.


More than a dozen Republican lawmakers have announced retirements this year, opening up new races and complicating GOP efforts to take back the House in the 2020 presidential election. They include Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, the second-longest serving member of the House, and Rep. Bill Flores of Texas.


Trump tweeted Monday that the answer is to do away with the party's six-year, self-imposed limit on how long members can serve as chairs. The six-year limit was created in 1994 to ensure fresh leadership atop the most powerful committees on Capitol Hill.


"House Republicans should allow Chairs of Committees to remain for longer than 6 years. It forces great people, and real leaders, to leave after serving," the president tweeted. "The Dems have unlimited terms. While that has its own problems, it is a better way to go. Fewer people, in the end, will leave!"
 

Lanyap

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All hail King Trump.

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dainthomas

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No, he is a president, a position won in an election in which America rejected the Democrats. Perhaps the biggest political upset in American history.

America rejected Dump (by an embarrassingly small margin of 3 million). The electoral college rejected Democrats.

I'm waiting to hear how extending the chairmanships of career parasites politicians is "draining the swamp"? What happened to Dump being all about term limits for congress?
 

SlowSpyder

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America rejected Dump (by an embarrassingly small margin of 3 million). The electoral college rejected Democrats.

I'm waiting to hear how extending the chairmanships of career parasites politicians is "draining the swamp"? What happened to Dump being all about term limits for congress?


I don't think it is a crazy request. Not really for or against it, this is just something for partisan types to jump up and down over.
 

dainthomas

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I don't think it is a crazy request. Not really for or against it, this is just something for partisan types to jump up and down over.

Well I'm for the Democrats instituting the same limit. The longer someone has power like that, the more out of touch and open to corruption they are.
 
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No, he is a president, a position won in an election in which America rejected the Democrats. Perhaps the biggest political upset in American history.
He won by a few Russian inspired votes in a tiny number of precincts in 3 states and lost nationally by almost 3 million helped along by gerrymandering and voter suppression. He is illegitimate and mentally unfit for the job. He is only supported by the least rational and least mentally healthy portion of the population supported by a criminal enterprise of a party. People are abandoning Trump in droves, and great effort is in effect to put out in public the kind of bullshit you spew to help keep the most demented in their mental prison.
 
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Well I'm for the Democrats instituting the same limit. The longer someone has power like that, the more out of touch and open to corruption they are.
What unconscious assumption are you making here that has no scientific proof?
 

dainthomas

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What unconscious assumption are you making here that has no scientific proof?

The assumption that lobbyists bribe/influence politicians and the longer they are influenced in this way the less they know or care what their constituents think.

Seems like a reasonable assumption based on thousands of data points over decades.
 

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The assumption that lobbyists bribe/influence politicians and the longer they are influenced in this way the less they know or care what their constituents think.

Seems like a reasonable assumption based on thousands of data points over decades.
Then you believe that if you had some sort of power you would over time become corrupt in its use? One way such an assumption might warrant consideration is if most people haven't any real moral values to begin with.

This would mean that, generally speaking, it would be foolish to imagine that anybody could set aside their own self interests for the best interests of others and that all our so called idealism is just bull shit, right?

And furthermore, if there are any flaws in your assumption, it would mean that you are simply projecting what you know is true of you onto everybody else and that their still might be exceptions, people who can't be corrupted because their moral values are based some inner satisfaction they personally take in acting selflessness.

I mean, if your moral values are founded on fear, conformity to rules based on threat and force, when you have power you rise above that fear and may do anything, but if your moral values are based on a love of truth and some innate reward one might derive from empathy, such a person would see corruption as the loss of the joy of being, perhaps, for those who have it, the most important thing a person can experience. Food for thought, I hope.
 

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Then you believe that if you had some sort of power you would over time become corrupt in its use? One way such an assumption might warrant consideration is if most people haven't any real moral values to begin with.

This would mean that, generally speaking, it would be foolish to imagine that anybody could set aside their own self interests for the best interests of others and that all our so called idealism is just bull shit, right?

And furthermore, if there are any flaws in your assumption, it would mean that you are simply projecting what you know is true of you onto everybody else and that their still might be exceptions, people who can't be corrupted because their moral values are based some inner satisfaction they personally take in acting selflessness.

I mean, if your moral values are founded on fear, conformity to rules based on threat and force, when you have power you rise above that fear and may do anything, but if your moral values are based on a love of truth and some innate reward one might derive from empathy, such a person would see corruption as the loss of the joy of being, perhaps, for those who have it, the most important thing a person can experience. Food for thought, I hope.

Most laws are based on a minority not having the inner moral strength to abide by the norms required by a functioning society. This would be no different.

Being aware of the potential flaws in others doesn't mean we possess those flaws.
 

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Being aware of the potential flaws in others doesn't mean we possess those flaws.

On the contrary, I can't imagine anybody suspecting potential flaws in others who has not seen that potential in themselves. How can we really know anybody other than by recognizing them in ourselves. My suspicion is that you have not really been very honest about who we are and I think, also, it is extremely difficult to try to counter faults we deny we have.
 

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He won by a few Russian inspired votes in a tiny number of precincts in 3 states and lost nationally by almost 3 million helped along by gerrymandering and voter suppression. He is illegitimate and mentally unfit for the job. He is only supported by the least rational and least mentally healthy portion of the population supported by a criminal enterprise of a party. People are abandoning Trump in droves, and great effort is in effect to put out in public the kind of bullshit you spew to help keep the most demented in their mental prison.


He wasn't supposed to win, though. The entire leftist media machine, Hollywood, big tech, the GOP itself. He beat them all. Like him or hate him, that is pretty impressive. There is no proof, no evidence even that shows the Russians manipulated the vote for him. How did they do that? Did they take voters' free will? It is amazing to me how you and your ilk can't simply admit that the Democrats put up an unlikable low energy candidate that had a checkered past, and those things all combined to doom her on election day.
 

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Oh come on.... for Donald Trump this will be a good idea until it isn't.
Trump believes his idea will fix everything, then would change his mind if he got what he thinks he wants.
Face it, Donald Trump just can not make a good decision or come up with a good idea, period!
Everything he decides, his ever desire always come back to bite him in the butt.
Would this idea be any different if he got his wish?
 

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He wasn't supposed to win, though. The entire leftist media machine, Hollywood, big tech, the GOP itself. He beat them all. Like him or hate him, that is pretty impressive. There is no proof, no evidence even that shows the Russians manipulated the vote for him. How did they do that? Did they take voters' free will? It is amazing to me how you and your ilk can't simply admit that the Democrats put up an unlikable low energy candidate that had a checkered past, and those things all combined to doom her on election day.


Funny thing is that Mueller and the intel communities know that Russia interfered to benefit Trump. And of course, Trump nor Moscow Mitch would have that change
 

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He wasn't supposed to win, though. The entire leftist media machine, Hollywood, big tech, the GOP itself. He beat them all. Like him or hate him, that is pretty impressive. There is no proof, no evidence even that shows the Russians manipulated the vote for him. How did they do that? Did they take voters' free will? It is amazing to me how you and your ilk can't simply admit that the Democrats put up an unlikable low energy candidate that had a checkered past, and those things all combined to doom her on election day.
I was quite aware of how "impressive" he was and warned democrats he could win and because democrats are message tone deaf. The Republican party and the 1 percent have insured a steady stream of propaganda reaches the brain-washable American people. All the Russians had to do was fan the flames of that division via social media aggitation and psychological warefare. You can't prove any of this to people like yourself who have your self worth tied to the Trump cult. The primary feature of mind conditioning is blindness to it. All belief depends on a sense of being right or why else would you believe it. Like a tiger that has been chained, and then released he will wonder up and down in his usual rut. It takes profound will and an enormous price to get free of conditioned bigotry.