Trump budget seeks huge cuts to disease prevention and medical research departments

[yoddle]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-prevention-and-medical-research-departments/

No commentary again? You are one slow learner.

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[JSt0rm]

winning takes many forms.

 

[jman19]

MAGA in action

 

[zinfamous]

well, all disease should be treated equally. This is only fair.

 

[JMC2000]

Well see, if enough people die, there won't be any need for government-funded disease prevention and medical research.

Saving the govt money, one dead body at a time!

#winning #MAGA

 

[Bitek]

Trump voters are some dumb MFers.
Of course I'm sure they are applauding it because freedumb and moar tax cuts.

 

[VirtualLarry]

and moar tax cuts.

Cut taxes to zero, and you effectively don't have a gov't any more. Is that the plan?

 

[Jhhnn]

Cut taxes to zero, and you effectively don't have a gov't any more. Is that the plan?

Not exactly. First cut spending & top tier taxes, create a crisis & an uproar, then rescind part of those cuts when forced, beat the rest of it out of the little people one way or another.

You know- Kansas. Remember the old DeKalb logo, the flying fickle corncob of fate? Right up yer old keester.

 

[Sunburn74]

This is something that is very poorly known. Trump has proposed pretty drastic cuts to the NIH budget. Almost every scientist is opposed as if anything we don't spend nearly enough on biomedical research. You'd like to think there is a private industry out there just cranking out biomedical research but the reality is no such industry exists. Science doesn't work that way anyway.

 

[theeedude]

Is that going to kill off his elderly idiot base faster?

 

[Meghan54]

Is that going to kill off his elderly idiot base faster?

The problem is not all elderly are idiots nor his base. Unfortunately, we'll all suffer from his ill advised policy initiatives.

 

[theeedude]

The problem is not all elderly are idiots nor his base. Unfortunately, we'll all suffer from his ill advised policy initiatives.

Not to equal extent.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Oh my goodness, those doctors and scientists have to get by with only TWENTY SIX BILLION DOLLARS for the next 12 months.

The horror.

 

[theeedude]

Oh my goodness, those doctors and scientists have to get by with only TWENTY SIX BILLION DOLLARS for the next 12 months.

The horror.

Does that logic apply to drug companies too? You wouldn't have a problem with Medicare negotiating down drug prices?

 

[Vic]

Oh my goodness, those doctors and scientists have to get by with only TWENTY SIX BILLION DOLLARS for the next 12 months.

The horror.

Meanwhile, the DoD got a budget increase of twice that amount. Priorities.

 

[Jhhnn]

Meanwhile, the DoD got a budget increase of twice that amount. Priorities.

Spreading FUD & pandering to the results has served Repubs well since at least the Reagan era.

 

[Moonbeam]

Does that logic apply to drug companies too? You wouldn't have a problem with Medicare negotiating down drug prices?

How many people who are loved and cherished by others do you think are alive today because of government investments in science who would be dead otherwise? Do you see nothing at all wrong with your thinking. What motivates what you feel. Is it that investing in others makes you feel cheated because nobody gave you loving care? What made you so hardened.

 

[theeedude]

Mental health will be cut too.

 

[khon]

Oh my goodness, those doctors and scientists have to get by with only TWENTY SIX BILLION DOLLARS for the next 12 months.

The horror.

Yes, the horror. That drastic reduction in research funding would slow down search for cures, which means more people will die in the meantime, and if you've ever seen someone die from cancer, you would know it's pretty damn horrifying.

 

[theeedude]

Trump supporters voted for more pollution and less cancer curing. Conservatism is a self solving problem.

 

[cytg111]

Trump is old, he isnt going to reap the benefits of science done *today*, that may be 10 years out, trump dead, trump dont care.
On the other hand if someone were to present a plan for the cure for ageing I am certain he would triple the budget over night.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Yes, the horror. That drastic reduction in research funding would slow down search for cures, which means more people will die in the meantime, and if you've ever seen someone die from cancer, you would know it's pretty damn horrifying.

Yes, I have seen people die from this including close friends and relatives. Your post implies that I was making light of that, which is stupid. If you stop and think about the trillions the public and private sector have spent on research so far - no one could argue and keep a straight face that we don't spend (or haven't spent) enough on it. People are going to die whether we spend a dollar or a dime next fiscal year so please, spare me the drama.

I think spending on the NIH is a noble cause but they need to make due with what we can afford to give them and that's it.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes, I have seen people die from this including close friends and relatives. Your post implies that I was making light of that, which is stupid. If you stop and think about the trillions the public and private sector have spent on research so far - no one could argue and keep a straight face that we don't spend (or haven't spent) enough on it. People are going to die whether we spend a dollar or a dime next fiscal year so please, spare me the drama.

I think spending on the NIH is a noble cause but they need to make due with what we can afford to give them and that's it.

I guess you don't want to answer my questions so let me suggest an answer suggested by this reply to somebody else:

Is there a clue to your thinking in the world drama? Does the impulse to fund scientific and medical research really strike you as emotional over reaction? Do you really think it's that people are over reacting to death? Are you not really saying you fear people's emotions which is like saying you fear your own, that you were made to feel shame for feeling and taught that not feeling them made you special and strong, that in fact you have an actually very unhealthy idea of what it is to be human?

If you had a child that was sick with cancer, would you not take that child to the doctor and pray that it is some form of cancer that medicine can treat or would you just let it stay home and die because that is all of our fates? Your thinking is irrational, don't you see, because you have a messed up notion of what it means to feel. We fund research not because we experience drama about dying, but so that we and others we love don't have to go through the pain of an early and, future treatable, unnecessary death. You are running away from drama where others are trying to reduce its frequency. Your path only creates more not less of what it is you fear. We create what we fear. Learn to suffer so you won't be ashamed to feel. What you seek is the good, but in the wrong direction. You are actually worth all kinds of drama. You are loved by the hidden one within you.

 

[zinfamous]

Yes, I have seen people die from this including close friends and relatives. Your post implies that I was making light of that, which is stupid. If you stop and think about the trillions the public and private sector have spent on research so far - no one could argue and keep a straight face that we don't spend (or haven't spent) enough on it. People are going to die whether we spend a dollar or a dime next fiscal year so please, spare me the drama.

I think spending on the NIH is a noble cause but they need to make due with what we can afford to give them and that's it.

 

[Meghan54]

Yes, I have seen people die from this including close friends and relatives. Your post implies that I was making light of that, which is stupid. If you stop and think about the trillions the public and private sector have spent on research so far - no one could argue and keep a straight face that we don't spend (or haven't spent) enough on it. People are going to die whether we spend a dollar or a dime next fiscal year so please, spare me the drama.

I think spending on the NIH is a noble cause but they need to make due with what we can afford to give them and that's it.

It's do, not due.

And why can't we, as a country, afford it? Naaaa.....gotta spend more on the world's largest military to make it even larger. Gotta cut taxes for the wealthiest in this country because.....reasons.